Pre '98 , thanks Mos Cutty , around 55 days .
Fuck! There's one last option that this cut may be. This could possibly by Kyle Kushmans cut PK that he said blows the Bubba away. That's the last thing that I could hope for now. This cut went through 2 people's hands to get to me. The first guys hands got the Illuminati from KK's people so it may be possible that this also came from those people as well. I'll know in a couple weeks when I meet with them. Thanks for the help! I know I don't have Pre98 now.
if it was a bubblegum cross, the S1s would segregate and we would get bubblegum phenos - which is not the case.
the pre-98 S1s all come up very similar to each other and to the cut. (the only additional smell i detected in one plant was the 'cheese' terpene (which is supposed to be an afghan trait)
this, and the lack of vigor of bubba, all points to it being an inbred line imo.
VG
im not sure you would get bbg phenos. an s1 would only be able to contain a mix of the genes that the parent has, both dominant and recessive. the bubba could be a bbg cross buy yet have not bbg traits in its genes. in which case you would never see a bbg pheno. most s1 are similar to the parent or a slight variation.