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I can't believe you guys. If you think their not using the FLIR units. You got another thing to learn. I have friends that are LEO down south. They work for local police departments, State Police, and even FBI. I also have a ex that works in records and looks to be getting a job with the FBI soon also. I've asked all of them what the deal on FLIR and how they use the units. Now, take this to mind. I have alot of dirt on these guys. I'm talking about major dealing in high school and not just weed. We are talking some weight of the nasty stuff. If their department was to find this out. Job would be terminated and charges brought up. This is how they do it down south. They don't drive up and down the street looking for a "Signal" and that's what they are looking for. Not just heat from your light or lights. They are using chopper's on normal patrols and support. What they do is fly around during their flight time. If they are called to support some ground units and maybe look for some asshole hiding. Well they fly over to that area. Now, this is how they find your grow sites. The Co pilot is watching the unit as they fly to want ever area they are needed. The co pilot watching the FLIR unit screen. This is what the cops' call "Fishing". They are fishing for a signal as they flight in route to support. Here comes the shitty part. They fly to the area that needs support. Then after they are done helping out. They then turn around and fly to a house or building that keyed a signal. They normally flight over some what quick to make sure not to alert anyone, but this is the second fly over. This confirms there might be a grow going on. Once they confirm there is something going on. They then inturn and get with detectives. The detectives do some normal checking that doesn't require warrents and such and if they get anything that they can use to get a warrent. Well, we all know what's next. This method they use works well and is a game to the fly boyz. They help out detective by doing this. Is it legal what they are doing? HELL NO, they are looking into everyone place as they fly to area needed. If you think i'm full of shit. Well, i got plenty of ex life time friends that are getting ready to leave the force for better things and they are going to go over alot about some of their methods. Fishing is enough to find your grow. Then they get the detective to work the ground for enough evidences to get a search warrant. Look I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just trying to help everyone and help keep them out of jail. I've been busted by the local police department and U.S. Marshal's and it's not fun at all. Like i said and i wish i could post more, but i promiss later on down the road. I'm going to have a complete write up on FLIR and don't be surprise if you see it in one of the major magazines also. Just want to make sure i'm not around if any heat comes my way.
Take care
 
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I argee with you 100% GDW. 'Fishing' like you describe it makes total sense, and I could see them doing that. In canada I know that the BC RCMP use the flir at night time between 12-5am (around there) after most people have gone to sleep and their houses have cooled down, so that the grow ops stick out like a sore thumb.

Just because LEO is not suppose to use things without warrants doesnt mean they do ;)
 
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Darkness said:
I argee with you 100% GDW. 'Fishing' like you describe it makes total sense, and I could see them doing that. In canada I know that the BC RCMP use the flir at night time between 12-5am (around there) after most people have gone to sleep and their houses have cooled down, so that the grow ops stick out like a sore thumb.

Just because LEO is not suppose to use things without warrants doesnt mean they do ;)
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You hit the nail right on the head. Look, I've been a member here since day one. Just under a different screen name and i plan on being here for many years. I just want to info everyone. That these guys are doing this stuff and they are doing it without warrants. They are finding a place in route and then going back for more info, so they can get a warrant. I'm here to help everyone. I'm not here to start any fights or bash anyone. Just telling you what friends that are LEO and are dirty cops are telling me. Well, told me a few years back. The best thing that i could tell anyone. Is to run your light during the day. This will look like normal usage during the day. Plus, you don't want usage at night. It just throws to many flags. Please, the signal you put off at night is just crazy. Better to do a grow at 6am-6pm for flower or something like that. Vegging can be done with alot less wattage. Like i said before. I'm going to be writing up a masive report and do a full out killer thread on the subject, BUT there will be plenty of data on how to block these camera's. Take care all and be safe.
 
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Dez said:
GoldDustWomen, would it be wise to invest in a thermal imaging device such as this one http://www.professionalequipment.com/xq/ASP/ProductID.4526/id.22/subID.457/qx/default.htm

how do these compare to what LEO is using? Any info from anyone on renting a unit from somewhere?
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WOW, if you got that much money to spend. Maybe you should buy a island or something. Jokin, that unit really doesn't say much on all the options it has. Yes, it talks about infrared. Some other features you want to look for is White Hot and Dark Hot. These are different modes of infrared and see's at different wave lengths. That unit is alot more then the unit i'm going to be getting for testing. I would just do a search you and you should come up with some cheaper and more informed units. Wish i could talk more about it. I just want to hold off till i'm in a safer place to really cut loose on the subject. The might be some people that are going to get really pissed at me, but oh well. It time, and i know its hard. Wish i could do more for you members. As for renting a unit. Someone posted a place, but i'll have to try and find the link. I'm guessing they are going to want a very large deposit and all your info. That is not a good idea. I'll try to find a cheap good unit and post a link, but don't ask to much. Don't want to get to deep on the subject just yet. Good luck and stay safe.


Darkness, as for that material you asked about. It "seem's" to block some of the wave lengths. How much does it really block? I won't know till i test a shit load of different produces, but that shit is alot and i'm sure there is stuff out there that is alot cheaper. The main problem with FLIR is wave lengths. That's what the units in the chopper's key up on. You'll see plenty of pictures that explain what i'm talking about. I'll be testing on wood, block, and other structored buildings. Not to worry, i'll be on the job and giving more info then you'll ever need. My main goal is roof and walls. Me and friends need to find material that will block out all IR source so if anything flys over. They won't even slow down for the build. They will continue on with their route like nothing and look more at the next house or build. God, we are evil. lol. Well, you guys are making me talk to much. Jokin, I'm out of here.
Stay safe
 
ph6.5

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gdw
good info

the blanket is called a space blanket and they do a good job and gdw in so right about the light waves.
h2o does defuse the light waves, the more h2o the waves have to go through the better the defusion. also the hotter the bulb & ballast the brighter the hot spots. so as long as you can keep the room temp and avg temp and able to defuse the light waves it self it should make you a little safer. i like to use a basement and as close to the water heater and heater
as possible and if i need to vent out the water heater vent it went. but then again i only run a plant or two under a 400w alot smaller foot print then most are running. from the x-ray class i had some time ago we used alum to defuse some of the rays to get different effects and testing the cathode.

thanks i look forward to more reading. also gdw what was your 1st book?

ph6.5
 
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Take as much time as ya need gdw :joint: As long as you are serious about sticking around i'll be very happy =] I can't wait to get my hands on a unit and start testing it out... I have many theories and ideas that I would love to discuss with you.. when the time is right just hit me up :joint:
 
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Dez said:
Take as much time as ya need gdw :joint: As long as you are serious about sticking around i'll be very happy =] I can't wait to get my hands on a unit and start testing it out... I have many theories and ideas that I would love to discuss with you.. when the time is right just hit me up :joint:
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I've been hear since day one. I've been here after my bust. I'm here while on probation. I'll be here after probation and I'll be here long past most member's. Not to worry, the testing and all results will be posted for all and anyone wanting to talk while testing. I'm more then happy to answer questions. Most likely i'll write the report and make sure it is writen professionally and put it in a PDF format, so members can read the report and also view all the pictures. Not to worry, sometime early next year. I should start testing.
Thanks and take care
 
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Mjguru

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hey i found this thread interesting and i did some research and found this on some scientific website,
http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosmic_classroom/ask_astronomer/faq/radiation.shtml


What materials block, reflect, absorb or emit infrared light?
Thermal infrared, which corresponds to wavelengths longer than about 5 microns is a direct measure of temperature. One simple material that blocks IR is plexiglass. We use it in a demonstration of infrared radiation and the greenhouse effect. Also, water is a good absorber of IR. Hence, one must get above the atmosphere's water vapor to conduct most infrared astronomy measurements. Any good mirror should also be capable of reflecting infrared light. Most ground-based telescopes that observe in the "near-infrared" (betweewn 1 and 2.5 microns) rely on the same telescopes as for optical astronomy. Finally, thermal IR is a measure of heat, and *any* object above absolute zero (-273 C) emits infrared radiation. The hotter a source, the more IR light it emits.


one sentence really stuck out
One simple material that blocks IR is plexiglass.

hmm
 
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whoamI?whoRu!

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How would this work?
Heat all the exterior walls and roof with some exhaust airflow...just under or on the roof...use the blocking material in this shape...

F and U

...hahahaha
 
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