police avoidence

[tokinsmokin]

poly shield sounds like a waste of money, they said something about blocking the light. Well GoldDustWomen, just said that flir has nothing to do with light and only heat. hmm.

How long until you have this report GoldDustWomen?

 

[Guest]

poly shield sounds like a waste of money, they said something about blocking the light. Well GoldDustWomen, just said that flir has nothing to do with light and only heat. hmm.

How long until you have this report GoldDustWomen?

Morning tokinsmokin, your right about blocking light. Light is very easy to block, but blocking the heat signature is a totally different thing. That is what you are trying to do with avoiding the FLIR heat signature. I wish i could do more sooner, but i'm busy with being on probation right now. I'm not doing anything till its over and i'm relocated to a safe location. Believe me when i say the wait will be worth it to everyone. Alot of people JAWS will be on the floor and i think there will be more then enough information for everyone to avoid FLIR. Easy stuff also and material that can be bought at local hardward store. I wish i could do more, but don't want to end up in jail myself. I "WILL" have a "BRAND NEW" un-open Kickass FLIR to test and there will be plenty of pictures of different testing and spec's to post. I wish i could do the testing sooner, but its going to have to wait some.
Take care

 

[somoz]

that's awesome gdw: understandible if you wanna lay low until you sort yourself out but please post a thread when you finally get this up and running. i think there will be many a member very interested in your results. thanks. somoz

 

[Guest]

that's awesome gdw: understandible if you wanna lay low until you sort yourself out but please post a thread when you finally get this up and running. i think there will be many a member very interested in your results. thanks. somoz

Not to worry and trust me. There will be more data then you'll ever need. Enough to piss of LEO at me I will show you guys and girls how the Army tought me how to mask heat signatures. Uses a brand new FLIR unit and showing members what works and what doesn't. I will post the info, not to worry.
Take care

 

[theduder]

the leo chopper in my area is constantly up in the air and it has FLIR..i have a small c13 like cab and vent out my dryer vent

its california though so maybe they arent concerned with small med grows

they are seriously up in the air all day and night acting like its compton
it responds to any call

 

[relic2779]

off topic

off topic

Not to worry and trust me. There will be more data then you'll ever need. Enough to piss of LEO at me I will show you guys and girls how the Army tought me how to mask heat signatures. Uses a brand new FLIR unit and showing members what works and what doesn't. I will post the info, not to worry.
Take care

Hey GDW, Sorry to be completely off topic but I was reading your busted thread and had a question that is still boggling my mind.

I live in the US, and I also live in an apartment complex. By law, the police have to have a search warrant to enter your premises without your permission. Even with the building managers or owners permission, a search warrant is required without your permission.
So what your saying is, that you let them in without a warrant?

You kept saying they were looking for someone else, if thats the case, wouldn't they had to have a warrant and on the warrant, wouldn't they had to have the correct address?

I have had a couple friends busted in their apt complex and the police all had warrants from ongoing investigations (they got narc'd out).

If the police came knocking on my door, I sure as hell wouldn't answer.

 

[Guest]

Morning, could have posted at the other thread and i would have answer over there, but it's all good. I'd rather not go into detail about what really happen, because it could come back on me. YOU, are totally right. When living in a College town and being in a apartment complex. There are a couple of tricks the cops can use to get into your apaprtment without a warrant. One is the fire department checking smoke alarms. This was a big thing in my town. Well, they do not need permission to "Key" into your apartment for this. Yes, i had the locks changed. I wish i could say how they got in my apartment, but it would be way to much detail. Yes, they where looking for a Coke dealer in the complex and when my case finally went to trail. There was no investigation against me,so that means they went watching me. I'd love to get all the details, but it's to much that could come back on me just yet. I'll let everyone know alot more down the road. With all that is going on. I don't need more shit coming my way. In the college town i was in. They had a legal way to enter my apartment and me and they lawyer looked at this very well. Being in a college town and having thousands of students living in them. There are different rules for apartments through the owner's and city. I'm writing about those in my book that i'm writing and trying to finish up. Wish i could say more, but it's going to have to wait till i'm totall done with my troubles. Thanks and take care

 

[Guest]

If someone gets into my stash or room I'll see them. I''ve got a webcam running, free DNS, which in turn gives you the same IP address. So, even if they steal the webcam as well, their pictures are out on the web. You can go away from home and check your room anytime you log into your account. Neat,eh? I'm all for steel and locks too! But, if you get visitors, you'll know not to go home. Better still, check your site before going home just to be on the safe side.

Allo Le Grow, en passant.

can you provide more details on how to get this setup?

 

[Guest]

It's FREE! too

It's FREE! too

Ok, you have more than 1 option.
You can download a free program called Web cam Control and if you can set it up right. Its not complicated. The web cam will act as a motion detector, when something goes infront of the visual siting of Web cam, Bingo, the pre-recorded message goes off. When I took teck support we mucked around with all kinds of free, fun stuff.
You need large hard drive space just incase the cat keeps walking infront. hehehe

seriously now, OK another thing I love is a free internet site called...

just a minute i gotta check...


,,
Wait...do you post some wheres else?

I see something like you at yahooka, is that you?

the response was right on the money. And do move if you have to.

 

[Mampi]

Police Use Thermal Imaging To Uncover Cannabis Factories
24dash.com, 24th March 2006

Thermal imaging cameras are being used by police to reveal homes concealing secret cannabis factories.

The hand-held equipment detects the extreme heat created by lighting systems used in the intensive rearing of marijuana plants.

Properties where cannabis is being grown will release up to 10 times the amount of heat of an average family home.

Police said the crop from just one house can be worth more than £70,000.

Officers in London have successfully used the cameras for the first time in the Haringey area of the capital.

They patrolled residential streets looking for suspicious heat emissions from buildings.

Officers seized a "significant" amount of cannabis and drugs paraphernalia after raids on two properties today.

Sergeant Ian Pyles, who led the operation from St Ann's Road police station, said: "This latest technology has allowed us to quickly identify houses in Haringey which have been turned into cannabis factories.

"The equipment means we can covertly film a line of properties and identify the factory when the thermal image glows white-hot.

"In some cases, so much heat is being emitted that the house will look as though it's ablaze."

He added: "With one house crop of cannabis being worth in excess of £70,000, we have to work hard to put the growers out of business.

"Drugs in local communities can ruin lives and we are determined to improve the borough for the benefit of everyone."

The two raids today took place at homes in Braemar Road and Roslyn Road in South Tottenham.

Haringey borough commander Simon O'Brien said: "We work hard to make Haringey one of the safest London boroughs and will use all means to help us achieve that goal.

"This type of technology is the way forward for the Met and will ensure that we stay one step ahead of the criminals and drug dealers.

"The camera, supplied to the Met by Devon-based Frontline Products, is currently being piloted in Haringey and is due to be used for several future operations."

Source:

www.thehempire.com/index.php/cannabis/news/police_use_thermal_imaging_to_uncover_cannabis_factories


GDW can you post some of the methods you refer to prior to the actual tests, have you started testing yet? If not when will you commence...

Cheers!

 

[Mampi]

More of the same.....

Two more drugs factories closed
The Hornsey and Crouch End Journal, 30th March 2006

POLICE closed down two more cannabis factories last week - using thermal imaging equipment - and seized an estimated £140,000 worth of the drug.

In an attempt to get on top of the problem of cannabis production, bobbies on the beat are now being given handheld cameras - which show the heat emanating from the factories.

Last Thursday drugs officers swooped on two addresses - one in Braemar Road and the other in Roslyn Road, South Tottenham - and seized large amounts of plants and growing paraphernalia.

It is estimated the haul was worth more than £140,000.

Binh Van Dong, 48, of Braemar Road, was arrested and charged with cultivation of cannabis, possession with intent to supply a class C drug, criminal damage and extraction of electricity. He appeared at Highbury Corner Magistrates' Court on Friday.

Police said electricity meters had been bypassed in both houses - avoiding huge bills - and representatives from the electricity board, who went on the raids, said each house was using enough power to keep Tottenham police station going.

Sergeant Ian Pyles, who lead the operation, said: "This latest technology has allowed us to identify houses which have been turned into cannabis factories.

"The equipment means we can covertly film a line of properties and identify the factory when the thermal image glows white-hot."

He added: "With one house crop of cannabis being worth in excess of £70,000 we have to work hard to put the growers out of business. Drugs in local communities can ruin lives and we are determined to improve the borough for everyone."

Borough Commander Chief Superintendent Simon O'Brien said: "We work hard to make Haringey one of the safest boroughs and we will use all means to achieve that. This type of technology is the way forward and will ensure that we stay one step ahead of the criminals."

Discoveries of cannabis factories in Tottenham have been gradually increasing over the past year. The trade has been linked by police to London's Vietnamese community.

The growers' practice of bypassing the electricity meter is a particular danger as it often sparks fires - which can gut the whole building.

 

[Guest]

Afternoon, as for when the testing is actually going to take place will be sometime next year. Sorry, on probation right now and waiting to finish it up and move out of the USA to new and safe location. The testing will be one that will be talked about for a very long time. There is plenty of funding from friends that are wondering the same idea as alot of us. We all want to know what works and what doesn't and i will clear up all the material that works and doesn't work. I will be posting plenty of pictures and i will post pictures of the FLIR unit in the brand new box before i even open the package to prove i'm using a new unit. I'm also buying one of the best units on the market, so there won't be any worries of using a cheap unit. I'll be posting a thread and I'm also going to do a full report that will be writen by a profession in layman terms and the report will be a PDF format for anyone to download.

As for giving you information on the subject now. I really don't wan't to get involved right now, since i don't want to piss off anyone and want to make sure all data is correct and on the money, but if your looking to block the heat signature. I would look into that new heat blocking material. Don't know how well it works as of yet, but i will be testing "Tons" of different material that is design for the IR signature and stuff that can be bought at home improvement places. There is stuff like cheap Thermal blankets that are used for camping in the dessert's. Wink, Wink, Wink. This stuff is design to keep heat in and not let it out. This is a blanket used for emergency in the deserts. I'll be talking more about these later on, but i will say this now and i "Don't" want members hounding me right now about this. I "Personally" rapped myself with one of these blanket's and walked right pass a M1A1 Tank that was in White Hot mode and they didn't see me on their scores. Now, i think this stuff might just be the stuff we are looking for and you can find this stuff at Army/Navy stores. Please, don't ask me to explain right now. I promiss to explain all there is about IR and Thermal Imagery later on and it will be worth the wait. I promiss, but if you need info and help now. A quick search on google will help you out some. Sorry, just don't want to dig a hole right now. Want to wait till i'm oversea's and don't have much to worry about. Thanks and hope to have info sooner then Feb 2007
Take care

 

[Ganix]

Well, If soneone was to line the walls of thier grow area with lead lined sheetrock it should block a very considerable amount of the heat signature. As long as the room was completely lined and the walls behind it are insulated. I dont see how the heat signatture would get through.

 

[Guest]

Very nice info you have shared here GoldDust.

It would be great to know leo's criteria on FLIR.

 

[Guest]

build a new growroom in your room... no heat will escape... this was in high times ready set grow security story

 

[Guest]

Thanks Steady smokin, we will know alot more later on for sure. There will be more info on the subject then needed. Will be testing alot of material and different building structor's.

EWG, it not just about the heat itself. It's also the wave length the light bulb puts out also. There is more then just the heat that is put out, but you are right about that article. I have that issue and will see if i can scan it and post the article for everyone to read.

Great to see members share info. Only way we are going to stay safe.
Take care all

 

[Darkness]

I've talked to some guys who watch a demenstration with a FLIR gun, and the room inside the room was clearly visible, cause they could zoom right in on it. Now that is compelety 'hear-say' but just thought I"d mention it. Although I am interested in the stuff from the army/navy store......

 

[kenslick]

From what I have herd it's an old wives tale

From what I have herd it's an old wives tale

First of all the cops dont do that in colorado but I have never herd of anyone getting busted this way and I have been doing it a long time, thats just like the power bill, if they are looking at you power usage you fucked allready, because they have to have to have a warrent, and that means they are looking at you! just be careful, forget all those crazy rumors you hear its just people that dont know what they are talking about and they proabily never grew shit !

 

[Mampi]

Kenslick obviously you didnt read the 2x news stories I posted above..... maybe it's not the Colorado popo's 'policy' to use FLIR just like it was'nt policy for the UK popo to use them prior to an increase in growhouses being run by the Vietnamese being found, and the shoddy practices that some of the Viets use, ie: stealing electricty, running dangerously high watts, burning down houses! etc, etc...

Point being is that it is very much a reality and the technology is not new either, meaning that soon it will be cheaper, and therofore more readily available!

The difference between the use of FLIR and power co's records is that popo can just cruise a street turn the fucker on and start looking for heat/wavelength signatures! Simple as that no, warrant needed (in the uk anyway from what I understand), wheras power records- usually protected by privacy clauses, cannot be so easily obtained. A warrant must be issued in most cases for this type of information.

BTW These aint crazy rumours mate...

 

[Darkness]

Not rumors at all, I totally agree. But I see his point I mean they just arent going to drive up and down every street using IR on every house, if they are using IR on you, then they already believe you are up to something, there are way too many houses, and not even close to enough LEO to drive up and down every street and look at every house......