Playin' in the Woods 2015

[DuskrayTroubador]

nice bro! ya that shit will take over fast if we dont take action. which plant is it the pussy ass green poison? ya man we gotta stay on the IPM hardcore right now bc right now is when the ladys need our help the most. i think with the frass,aloe, and sns244c u will be fine.

I can't say FOR SURE if it was the Green Poison, it may have been a UFO, bUT it looked like a Green Poison.

Went to plot 2 today, and the Spontanica are kicking ass! They're all about 5' now, I gave them a nice watering with hefty doses of Jack's and insect frass, lollipopped them all, and sprayed them down with horsetail and aloe (also heavy doses).

Next think I'm gonna hit them with is sns244c and aloe. Remember, it's good to use two different fungicides every year to keep disease in check.

We'll see this coming week if nuking that plant wit Immunox did any good.

I have some new pics, but the quality is HORRIBLE so I might not even bother uploading them...

 

[redlaser]

Have you looked into white mineral oil? JMS stylet oil is one brand, comes in an organic version as well. Smothers spores and fruiting bodies and has knockdown effects on a lot of insects. JMS website has a lot of info. Main thing to be careful about oil is not to use sulphur within a few days of application.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

I can't say FOR SURE if it was the Green Poison, it may have been a UFO, bUT it looked like a Green Poison.

Went to plot 2 today, and the Spontanica are kicking ass! They're all about 5' now, I gave them a nice watering with hefty doses of Jack's and insect frass, lollipopped them all, and sprayed them down with horsetail and aloe (also heavy doses).

Next think I'm gonna hit them with is sns244c and aloe. Remember, it's good to use two different fungicides every year to keep disease in check.

We'll see this coming week if nuking that plant wit Immunox did any good.

I have some new pics, but the quality is HORRIBLE so I might not even bother uploading them...

nice bro! yea always use 2 different kinds. right now though im really liking this Regalia,aloe,frass and b-52 combo for a 4 hit SAR combo inducer that is really haveing a good effect on the growth of my plants and the overall health. i just ordered the 500ml of bud factor x,+ size Pk booster and 1 quart of florakleen. both my churchs at plot 5 have started to flower now as well. so that is 2 church,2 biddy earlys and a single plant i have out from s a n n i e that is around week 3 as its got a few little small nugs on it,that is already starting to frost up

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Have you looked into white mineral oil? JMS stylet oil is one brand, comes in an organic version as well. Smothers spores and fruiting bodies and has knockdown effects on a lot of insects. JMS website has a lot of info. Main thing to be careful about oil is not to use sulphur within a few days of application.

i have looked up a good amount of info on the JMS stylet oil. i thought about getting that one but i instead choose to get Sns244c which does the same thing as the mineral oil that it smothers the spores but sns244c has a bit of advantage bc it has 3 essential oils which has been shown to have fungicidal and microbiol activities and when combined together have a even better synergistic effect. it also is a short acting systemic in it that

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Well fuck me sideways.

In a time where growth should be exploding, it seems like it's slowed. Perhaps it's the fact that I'm visiting more frequently now (about twice as much) that makes me not notice much growth, but it seems like I have a bunch of otherwise healthy looking plants that just aren't really growing.

The pics are shitty, but you can tell they're a nice and healthy shade of green. A small yellow leaf or two near the bottom, but I think that's only natural this time of year...

The plants are outlines in yellow where I deemed it necessary. I apologize again for the shitty quality pics, I'll get a cheap digital camera in a couple weeks (can anybody recommend one?).

Here is the double planted hole. The plant looks bigger and healthier in real life than in the picture, the leaves are a bit droopy though. Keep in mind this is most likely two of the freebies we're dealing with here.

And one of the healthier plants:

I know the pictures suck, but do they look like they're not growing to anybody else?

The disease (if that's what it even is) has pretty much halted since I last sprayed them with horestail. Even in the one that was on the brink of death that I sprayed with Immunox; 4 days later it still looks like it's on the brink of death but the leaves haven't really changed.

Today I went out and sprayed them with sns244c and aloe. Fed with Jack's (mixed bloom nutes in for the first time as well) and insect frass. I'm up to almost 2x the recommended dose of Jack's (1.8 tablespoons per gallon as opposed to 1) and also 1 table spoon of insect frass per gallon and I'm feeding at roughly 2x the recommended rate (every 4 or 5 days as opposed to 7-10). Actually, that is incorrect. I fed them with insect frass only last Friday, and it's been 6 days since they had any Jack's.

What do you think I could be looking at here, fellas? Am I seeing some sort of nutrient deficiency due to nutrient lockout? Should I check the ph? Is this just disease? Is this simpl a response due to the lack of water combined with 85-90 degree temps with high humidity (I give them each roughly a gallon of water every 4 days, but it is poured down a hole so it goes deeper rather than remaining on the surface of the soil)? I don't know what else to think. Throw me any and all possible ideas. I know it's kind of a crapshoot without better quality pictures...

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Here is the other plant that is having some trouble. Not the one I nuked with Immunox, but I did spray it with horsetail, aloe, and sns244c. May as well spray some Greencure too.

Both this plant and the other one that is in bad shape look like Green Poison F1 Fast Versions. Sucks because the plant has awesome structure, but it's just not very resistant to all the shit out there in the guerrilla jungle. Both plants are the only ones that were really bothered by bugs the last two years as well.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Well fuck me sideways.

In a time where growth should be exploding, it seems like it's slowed. Perhaps it's the fact that I'm visiting more frequently now (about twice as much) that makes me not notice much growth, but it seems like I have a bunch of otherwise healthy looking plants that just aren't really growing.

The pics are shitty, but you can tell they're a nice and healthy shade of green. A small yellow leaf or two near the bottom, but I think that's only natural this time of year...

The plants are outlines in yellow where I deemed it necessary. I apologize again for the shitty quality pics, I'll get a cheap digital camera in a couple weeks (can anybody recommend one?).

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Here is the double planted hole. The plant looks bigger and healthier in real life than in the picture, the leaves are a bit droopy though. Keep in mind this is most likely two of the freebies we're dealing with here.

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And one of the healthier plants:
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I know the pictures suck, but do they look like they're not growing to anybody else?

The disease (if that's what it even is) has pretty much halted since I last sprayed them with horestail. Even in the one that was on the brink of death that I sprayed with Immunox; 4 days later it still looks like it's on the brink of death but the leaves haven't really changed.

Today I went out and sprayed them with sns244c and aloe. Fed with Jack's (mixed bloom nutes in for the first time as well) and insect frass. I'm up to almost 2x the recommended dose of Jack's (1.8 tablespoons per gallon as opposed to 1) and also 1 table spoon of insect frass per gallon and I'm feeding at roughly 2x the recommended rate (every 4 or 5 days as opposed to 7-10). Actually, that is incorrect. I fed them with insect frass only last Friday, and it's been 6 days since they had any Jack's.

What do you think I could be looking at here, fellas? Am I seeing some sort of nutrient deficiency due to nutrient lockout? Should I check the ph? Is this just disease? Is this simpl a response due to the lack of water combined with 85-90 degree temps with high humidity (I give them each roughly a gallon of water every 4 days, but it is poured down a hole so it goes deeper rather than remaining on the surface of the soil)? I don't know what else to think. Throw me any and all possible ideas. I know it's kind of a crapshoot without better quality pictures...

from what i can see the plants are a deep dark green which is what we want. i water with 1 gallon about ever 3 days if no rain and its hard to see how much they have grew when visting that often. the only way i see growth now is i go back in my journal and compare the pics from the last time i was there to see whats up. i do know one thing the church at plot 2 has been slow growing as well and its got the leaf spot pretty bad. i hit it with liquid copper 2 days ago and im going tomorrow to pick up the immunox concentrate from lowes and hit with that. if that dont work then im gonna look at some other systemic fungicides and just use the church as a test plant with different fungicides to see what happens bc if leaf spot is not slowed down or controlled then i wont be smoking it anyways so will be good to test out some different things and see if anything controls it once affected.i was reading the sticky on leaf spot and a guy there said he was having great results with eagle20 which is the same thing as immunox but higher dose. i will get the 2oz thing of eagle 20 from ebay and see whats up

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

My concern is that leaf spot is stunting growth, but some of the plants don't really seem to be showing any symptoms. A few yellowing leaves, but they don't look like leaf spot; they look like naturally yellowing bottom leaves.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Plot 2 is rockin!

The Spontanica are as healthy as they could be, and they're growing! One is short (a little over 4 and a half feet) but the others are about 5', perhaps a little taller.

The double planted hole is well over 6'. All the plants are nice and plump!

For whatever reason, my lens was much clearer today too:

Here is the double planted hole:

And here are the three Spontanicas:

(the short one)

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Plot 2 is rockin!

The Spontanica are as healthy as they could be, and they're growing! One is short (a little over 4 and a half feet) but the others are about 5', perhaps a little taller.

The double planted hole is well over 6'. All the plants are nice and plump!

For whatever reason, my lens was much clearer today too:

Here is the double planted hole:

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And here are the three Spontanicas:

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(the short one)
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hell ya bro they looking badass! im for sure doing the kc33 and spotnanics next year. i cant wait to see what the yeild & smoke report will be like..60 more days in the gauntlet and we will know what the season is gonna be like. im sure there will be many more things i learn in this time of what not to do for the 2016 season.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

hell ya bro they looking badass! im for sure doing the kc33 and spotnanics next year. i cant wait to see what the yeild & smoke report will be like..60 more days in the gauntlet and we will know what the season is gonna be like. im sure there will be many more things i learn in this time of what not to do for the 2016 season.

I'm super excited to smoke the Spontanica. Aside from UFOs, it'll be my only new smoke. It's been a couple years since I smoked any Special Queen, so I'm also very excited about that.

The Spontanica has KC33 in its genetics. I'm pretty sure it's KC33 crossed with a "Secret Project" strain lol. Regardless, it reminds me a lot of the KC33 thus far, perhaps even more vigorous if that's possible.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

I'm super excited to smoke the Spontanica. Aside from UFOs, it'll be my only new smoke. It's been a couple years since I smoked any Special Queen, so I'm also very excited about that.

The Spontanica has KC33 in its genetics. I'm pretty sure it's KC33 crossed with a "Secret Project" strain lol. Regardless, it reminds me a lot of the KC33 thus far, perhaps even more vigorous if that's possible.

ya it is. i think his kc33 is his flagship strain. i was reading some other posts here a while back and i remember moondawg saying that the kc33 is a great strain to breed with.Kc's Ledo uno suppose to be a great lemony lime flavored plant with a couple grows on here about it. it may be something else i look at as well.. i typed in "special queen#1 grow report" and i found a youtube vid showing it and this guys Sq was a fkn monster. the stalk on august 3rd was as round as a 12oz mt.dew can and it was like 12 foot tall. im looking forward to trying it next year as well!

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

I may be running Leda Uno next year as well.

Make no mistake about it, Special Queen #1 is one of the best strains a guerilla can grow. Potent, monster size and yield, and tough as nails. Clearly, as evidenced by KC Brains as well, cost us no indication of a strain's potential.

On next year's pallet I've got Special Queen #1, Special Kush #1, and then Mango and Spontanica from KC Brains.

I'm gonna keep it simple though. I might throw in another strain like Pineapple Chunk.

As for Blue Widow, I don't trust it. Remember the BIG critique of that strain is that it's structure is poor. Without support bud-filled branches will be laying on the ground. That shit is for the birds (literally). Each year my plants are getting bigger and my plots more secluded. Frankly, I don't have time to fuck with plants that need staked/tied/caged in a guerrilla setting. Hauling all that shit into the bush is very impractical, especially when I'm already hauling a shit-ton of water.

I also try to stay away from plants with any possibility of blueing. Blue/purple is much more visible from the air than dark green.

But bottom line, I need plants that are vigorous o
in every aspect. Hauling support material into the bush isnt very practical (energy or security) and I can't afford to have branches on the ground.

Blueberry crosses are resistant to mold, but they're not as hardy as many guerrilla strains in a number of ways. White Widow is, in my opinion, not a very worthy guerrilla strain. If you want to try Blue Widow (I bought seeds for it in a past year) go for it, but I'm staying away.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

I may be running Leda Uno next year as well.

Make no mistake about it, Special Queen #1 is one of the best strains a guerilla can grow. Potent, monster size and yield, and tough as nails. Clearly, as evidenced by KC Brains as well, cost us no indication of a strain's potential.

On next year's pallet I've got Special Queen #1, Special Kush #1, and then Mango and Spontanica from KC Brains.

I'm gonna keep it simple though. I might throw in another strain like Pineapple Chunk.

As for Blue Widow, I don't trust it. Remember the BIG critique of that strain is that it's structure is poor. Without support bud-filled branches will be laying on the ground. That shit is for the birds (literally). Each year my plants are getting bigger and my plots more secluded. Frankly, I don't have time to fuck with plants that need staked/tied/caged in a guerrilla setting. Hauling all that shit into the bush is very impractical, especially when I'm already hauling a shit-ton of water. i just got my bud factor x and malted barely in today. more chitosan and chitinese for the win!! lol i use frass now for top dressing and bud factor x will be for folair

I also try to stay away from plants with any possibility of blueing. Blue/purple is much more visible from the air than dark green.

But bottom line, I need plants that are vigorous o
in every aspect. Hauling support material into the bush isnt very practical (energy or security) and I can't afford to have branches on the ground.

Blueberry crosses are resistant to mold, but they're not as hardy as many guerrilla strains in a number of ways. White Widow is, in my opinion, not a very worthy guerrilla strain. If you want to try Blue Widow (I bought seeds for it in a past year) go for it, but I'm staying away.

i agree with everthing u say here. ever white widow i have ever tried rotted down on me bad. thats why i have never tried the blue widow just bc of what i have experienced with WW. i wonder what the special kush#1 would be like for guerilla? i think u should look at the biddy early for a mid to 3rd week september finish. what i do is in the winter i take my wheeler and haul things in starting in feb to march so its not as much work. im lucky bc where i live there is a hill directly in front of my house just walk across the road and i can access old coal/strip job roads. i got 3 sites right now that are my best plots that i have water access to within 25 yards of the plot ,so i dont have to carry water near as much i did in the years before.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

i agree with everthing u say here. ever white widow i have ever tried rotted down on me bad. thats why i have never tried the blue widow just bc of what i have experienced with WW. i wonder what the special kush#1 would be like for guerilla? i think u should look at the biddy early for a mid to 3rd week september finish. what i do is in the winter i take my wheeler and haul things in starting in feb to march so its not as much work. im lucky bc where i live there is a hill directly in front of my house just walk across the road and i can access old coal/strip job roads. i got 3 sites right now that are my best plots that i have water access to within 25 yards of the plot ,so i dont have to carry water near as much i did in the years before.

Be careful, there's quite a bit of pollution in old mine areas. Even if there's no coal slurry, the areas and water can be pretty dangerous.

I'm definitely thinking about some Biddy Early for next year. I was thinking about it today and I don't think I'm gonna run more than 5 strains ever. Biddy Early, Mango (hopefully I can find the 42 day pheno), Special Queen, Spontanica, and maybe Leda Uno or KC42. With this setup, I get a staggered harvest and, with Leda Uno or KC42, I get a nice late Sativa. I wouldn't mind having one strain that goes into the middle of October, but if not I'll just use Special Kush instead.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Update: GOOD PICS!

Update: GOOD PICS!

Went out to plot 1 today, will hit plot 2 tomorrow. The girls are looking pretty good! It seems like growth has resumed. I'll start off with some happy pictures:

Here is the double planted hole. This one makes me wish I pulled one of the plants, the double planted hole at plot 2 makes me wish I left more holes double planted lol. The smaller plant on the right is already budding up.

Going by daylength, my stretch period (un)officially began a few days ago, and now I'm up to feeding 2x the recommended dose WITH an extra TBSP of insect frass per gallon. I'm excited for the next visit!

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

What the fuck is this shit?!

What the fuck is this shit?!

Here are some sad, weak, disease ridden pics. I'll start with the most devastating for dramatic effect. This is the plant that got it the worst, and even after nuking it with Immunox, it is a goner:

Whatever this shit is, it devastated this plant. I sprayed it one last time with Greencure, if no improvement I think I'm gonna just pull it next time I go out.

Here are some leaves off this plant and one other (that is much more successfully fighting it):

These leaves look more like some sort of deficiency than anything else. They kinda look like calcium or phosphorus deficiency.

Here is the other plant that had it bad, but this one is doing much better and I think even resumed growing:

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Any thoughts on what those leaves might be indicative of?

FWIW I seem to have halted the spread of whatever it was pretty well with sns244c.

The Spontanicas and Special Queen at plot 2 don't have it at all. I'll be heading there tomorrow or the next day, depending on some gamete decisions.

 

[GEMiNi GENETiCS]

Check the soil around the plants.. ..could be termites or ants in the soft soil and eating the roots.

Other plants looking good though!

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Be careful, there's quite a bit of pollution in old mine areas. Even if there's no coal slurry, the areas and water can be pretty dangerous.

I'm definitely thinking about some Biddy Early for next year. I was thinking about it today and I don't think I'm gonna run more than 5 strains ever. Biddy Early, Mango (hopefully I can find the 42 day pheno), Special Queen, Spontanica, and maybe Leda Uno or KC42. With this setup, I get a staggered harvest and, with Leda Uno or KC42, I get a nice late Sativa. I wouldn't mind having one strain that goes into the middle of October, but if not I'll just use Special Kush instead.

if u dont mind one to middle of oct then for sure get the Delahaze man. im serious this strain is everthing a guerilla could want in a strain. its done for me between oct 7-10th so i think by 15th it will be done for u as well. i agree im only gonna run 5 different strains for myself which is why the last 2 years i grew a bunch of different shit to find out what works and what dont so as it is right now i will be doing biddy,church,dela,jacky and Malawi as my insurance strains. my dad grows with me so he usally picks a few different strains as well. this year hes growing the critical jack and purple maroc,but next year i will get him the special queen #1 and swiss cheese and either kc33 or ledo uno.. im on the hunt for a great cheese strain to throw in my mix so as testers i will do freeze cheese 89,cheese candy,cheesy headband and frencheese. i can sale cheese so fast its crazy! everone loves the skunky/lemony smell and flavor here.