asnob charas
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Have you started any seeds yet or is it still early for you asnob?
Not quite yet I am still deciding on what to run this year. How are your plants coming along?
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Plant seeds indoors for 2022 outdoors.
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Not quite yet I am still deciding on what to run this year. How are your plants coming along?
They are starting to speed grow now that they have true leaves. I'm using Fox Farms Ocean Forest potting soil and pure water only.
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I'm not allowing any run-off and only using pure rainwater to slowly release nutrients. The Hydrogen in the rainwater links with the nutrients and the plant takes what it needs and leaves the rest. Plant roots exchange Hydrogen cations for essential nutrients it can not produce its self. Using Tap or groundwater would add hydroxyl molecules and block some of the nutrient links. Pure rainwater that never touched the ground is all-natural and loaded with wonderfulness.
St. Phatty
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Here's 3 days later and you can see the speedy growth. Only pure water and FFOF and no discharge or run-off.
Are Indica's generally more tolerant of High Nutes than Sativa's ?
I've had times when I had to dilute the FFOF with sand for the seedlings to be happy.
When you add sand you minimized water intake, increase run-off and reduce nutrients. However, if you didn't add sand and use less water it would do much better because of more concentrated nutrients in the cup. . FFOF works perfectly if one can manage the water intake. FFOF weight is very light compared to other organic mixes and is easy to overwater. . When you over water you release nutrients and that is the problem, and not the soil mix. The #1 mistake people make with FFOF is they use too big of a container for a small plant. When you have a lot of soil in a big pot you will get a lot of nutrients with watering and burn the hell out of your plants.
All plants adapt to the soil if they are born there. The substrate can have over 4000 ppm and the seed will adapt or 300 ppm and it will adapt. That is key when using high ppm soils is water management and the seed must be born there.
PLEASE NOTE you can't put a pre-germinated seed from a "wet paper towel" in a high ppm soil because it will burn the hell out of it. Seeds must be germinated in the mix for it to adapt.
PLEASE NOTE you can't put a pre-germinated seed from a "wet paper towel" in a high ppm soil because it will burn the hell out of it. Seeds must be germinated in the mix for it to adapt.
asnob charas
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Here's 3 days later and you can see the speedy growth. Only pure water and FFOF and no discharge or run-off.
Those are looking nice and healthy!
Here are three days later again. I watered yesterday and today the cups are already close to being empty. Only 20 grams of water is left in the cup. NOW it's time to up-pot into a gallon or #5 container. This mix needs wet to dry and if I water every day the plants growth will slow. Up potting will assure a wet-dry cycle
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Ok, I up-potted five of the six cups because they were using up their water in a day. The one plant still in a cup is holding water for two days and so I will wait for it. I used the same potting mix I germinated the seeds in, Fox Farms Ocean Forest and rainwater. I make sure I have a slight breeze hitting the plants so they will transpire water and gases through their stomata. RH is 38 and temp is 68 warming to 72. Plus I added more watts. to the grow.
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Here's something to think about when using FFOF potting mix. After transplanting into 1-gallon pots starting with the first watering, I gave each plant only 200 ml of plain rainwater and nothing else. For one plant I gave 300 ml of rain water, only adding 100 ml of extra water to one plant. The extra 100 ml of water showed a leaf dis-order. You can't saturate FFOF with water or the potting mix will release too many nutrients. It's not too hot to use you just have to manage your watering closely. These photos are a few days old at the beginning of water management.
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44:86N
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Hey Creeper, your plants are looking good!
Finally have a little news on the Friesland Indicas. I don't really have a dedicated space for indoor cannabis at the moment, so they don't exactly have the best placement, but it's working. They are also too close to the led light I have them under, but that's the way it is for now. I did pot them up about 10 days ago, and picked up the ppm on the fertilizer a bit, started in on cal/mag supplements, and they seem to be kicking in.
I cut them back hard today and am going to try and put roots on the cuttings. Unfortunately, I spaced getting a decent shot of the group before hand, but here they are almost 5 weeks:
There are 11 cuttings (I didn't take the mutant) all crammed into the same size plug tray as the coleus cuttings, just in a trimmed down to size tray. They are under mist. The blue is a Redi-heat heat mat.
Finally have a little news on the Friesland Indicas. I don't really have a dedicated space for indoor cannabis at the moment, so they don't exactly have the best placement, but it's working. They are also too close to the led light I have them under, but that's the way it is for now. I did pot them up about 10 days ago, and picked up the ppm on the fertilizer a bit, started in on cal/mag supplements, and they seem to be kicking in.
I cut them back hard today and am going to try and put roots on the cuttings. Unfortunately, I spaced getting a decent shot of the group before hand, but here they are almost 5 weeks:
There are 11 cuttings (I didn't take the mutant) all crammed into the same size plug tray as the coleus cuttings, just in a trimmed down to size tray. They are under mist. The blue is a Redi-heat heat mat.
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Super cool set up, all your seed trays look so good, I just love Coleus plants. Are you rooting in perlite? I have had good luck rooting in pure perlite under misters, with a 100% success rate. Plus rooting in perlite is fast too. Do you use a vacuum seeder or do you plant everything by hand? Super Sweet photos 44 thanks for brightening my day!
44:86N
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Glad to have a little something to post!
Those are all coleus from cuttings, not seed. The "Main Street Series," which has some super nice varieties in it. They, and all the other cuttings we do (14,000 so far) are in Berger's Propagation mix. It is easy to stick into, and the cutting base makes nice contact with the soil. I did use a much looser mix for the Friesland cuttings, though, with plenty of perlite in the mix.
I do a lot of seed, as well (and several coleus varieties from seed), and that is by hand.
It is still a little early up here, and I will be starting a couple other varieties (a Pakistan Kush & Nada Devi) in about 8 weeks. Looking forward to seeing how your plants do, and what other strains folks will be starting!
Those are all coleus from cuttings, not seed. The "Main Street Series," which has some super nice varieties in it. They, and all the other cuttings we do (14,000 so far) are in Berger's Propagation mix. It is easy to stick into, and the cutting base makes nice contact with the soil. I did use a much looser mix for the Friesland cuttings, though, with plenty of perlite in the mix.
I do a lot of seed, as well (and several coleus varieties from seed), and that is by hand.
It is still a little early up here, and I will be starting a couple other varieties (a Pakistan Kush & Nada Devi) in about 8 weeks. Looking forward to seeing how your plants do, and what other strains folks will be starting!
I'm just finishing some autos just to have something growing. Next month I will start growing some photos indoors to put outside in May. They are Dark Knight and Primal Scream from Ken Dog over at KDS seeds and I have hopes for them. Right now there is about 3" of snow outside so I am getting anxious to get outside and growing.
I've shot myself in the foot many times with too early plantings. Walking up on a bunch of dead plants that froze is a hard pill to take. Getting anxious to get outside is like a fever and can't be helped. Now is the best time for planning and thinking about what I did last year and how to improve this year. It won't be long friend!
