St. Phatty
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Anybody ever use one of these ? Cone shaped holes in a big piece of styrofoam.
For starting seeds.
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Plant seeds indoors for 2022 outdoors.
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Anybody ever use one of these ? Cone shaped holes in a big piece of styrofoam.
For starting seeds.
Wv do you use grow bags on your guerilla patches? Don't take any chances because everything has its season.
i usually use plastic containers or 5gal buckets for guerilla patches. I usually dig a hole and bury the bucket and cover them with brush or something. Or those large totes or round totes with the white rope handles like you can get at Wal-Mart that's like 30gal sometimes I'll use those for some guerilla patches. But I only put 1 plant in each container. I'll drill out holes in the bottom for drainage. I don't really like the fabric grow bags for guerilla patches unless I can visit them every 3 days because they dry out a lot quicker it seems
Fabric grow bags do dry out fast and the extra trips and extra water isn't worth it. WV did you fill the containers with native soil or potting mixes? That's an interesting idea.
Apartments housing for happy seed. Those look like they have been used a lot. Do you make your own seed starting soil mix or use a commercial one?
Looks like something you would float.
Styrofoam though. I'm out.
I use typical 35 cell tray. Where the cells are about 40mm square. Coco for me, but must try soil.
Before I go out, I get a file box, stood up with its door open. I take the 250mm tall cuttings out the tray, and stand them in the box. 7x2 to get 14 in there. Then, between each stalk, I get another block, so another 12 go in. 26 elongated cuttings about 250mm tall. No side branching as I want that plant reaching out the surrounding grass before any side branching happens. This folder is plastic lined (with poly tunnel repair tape) to keep dry. I can get this in a standard back pack with a few liters of compost and some ferts. A couple of liters of water, and my hand tools to plant them. Then off I go looking like any other walker with their weather gear bag. Sometimes I'm a fisherman with a rod bag full of canes. Or I might be taking some camping gear to my lad who's decided to stay out night fishing. It needs to look like something, as there is no great wilderness here. I'm often trimming behind a hedge as people walk past. Most years there is another close shave. Last season went well, I only side stepped to let a dog walker past, chatting for 30 seconds with an 80L bag of green on my back. No real issue there lol
Edit: 250mm in a perfect world. 450mm bent over is more likely
Styrofoam though. I'm out.
I use typical 35 cell tray. Where the cells are about 40mm square. Coco for me, but must try soil.
Before I go out, I get a file box, stood up with its door open. I take the 250mm tall cuttings out the tray, and stand them in the box. 7x2 to get 14 in there. Then, between each stalk, I get another block, so another 12 go in. 26 elongated cuttings about 250mm tall. No side branching as I want that plant reaching out the surrounding grass before any side branching happens. This folder is plastic lined (with poly tunnel repair tape) to keep dry. I can get this in a standard back pack with a few liters of compost and some ferts. A couple of liters of water, and my hand tools to plant them. Then off I go looking like any other walker with their weather gear bag. Sometimes I'm a fisherman with a rod bag full of canes. Or I might be taking some camping gear to my lad who's decided to stay out night fishing. It needs to look like something, as there is no great wilderness here. I'm often trimming behind a hedge as people walk past. Most years there is another close shave. Last season went well, I only side stepped to let a dog walker past, chatting for 30 seconds with an 80L bag of green on my back. No real issue there lol
Edit: 250mm in a perfect world. 450mm bent over is more likely
St. Phatty
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Apartments housing for happy seed. Those look like they have been used a lot. Do you make your own seed starting soil mix or use a commercial one?
Both.
Often I just lose track. There's pots with dirt everywhere in the house.
Put them out in the driveway near bagged dirt. Then get motivated to plant seeds once in a while.
I sort of count today as first day of spring. 2 months before official first day of spring.
Fabric grow bags do dry out fast and the extra trips and extra water isn't worth it. WV did you fill the containers with native soil or potting mixes? That's an interesting idea.
No I use basically the same mix outdoors that I use indoors. I tweak the outdoor soil a little from my indoor mix. I usually don't use as much perlite outdoors but still keep around 25% perlite in the outdoor mix. I go with about 5parts Promix bx, 2-3 parts Ocean Forest, 25-40% perlite. And I use some other stuff like miccorrihizea and a few more additives on the indoor mix. But the base mix is Promix, Ocean Forest, Perlite and whatever else you choose to add. I don't add hardly any fertilizer to the indoor mix mainly just miccorrihizea and a couple other things like worm castings. But the outdoor mix you can add a cup of slow release and some other things since the outdoor grows last a lot longer. I usually do a 14day flush on indoor and outdoor plants before harvest to get that clean taste and good burning finished product. The native soil is very clay like brown mud. But when I find some good rich black soil usually around hollers coming outta the mtns on the side of the banks I'll use some of that soil from time to time in my outdoor mix combined with my soil mix to make it go further
Interesting, talking about adding slow-release fertilizers are you talking about Osmocote Smart-Release Plant Food. I've used Osmocote Slow Release 15-15-15 a few times in the past just for fun to see what it would do. One of the things I noticed was not a clean taste and good burning smoke. It was very harsh and tasted like hay, but would still get you stoned. Also, wv friend, have you ever tried amending the brown clay with plain Canadian peat moss?
I'll mainly add some slow release ferts around the bottom of my outdoor containers. I don't put very much in there though. That's on plants I get outdoors early and you'll wanna flush them out really good. I still feed them with normal fertilizer like fox farm grow etc. So the slow release ferts in the bottom area of your containers are pretty much used up long before you'll harvest and there's not enough in there to even effect feeding them your normal fertilizer every other watering of however often you feed them. But yes I'll try to use a slow release that mainly got a close to equal NPK numbers 10-10-10 or something or that nature. Just don't put that much in your containers, just a little in the bottom of your containers will be fine. I don't put enough in there to were it effects regular feeding. Basically there's not enough slow release in my containers that I even notice much difference in the containers I don't use it in. Maybe put you a few TBS in the bottom of one of your containers just don't use much.
No I normally don't even use the native soil unless I'm running low on Promix or Ocean Forest or trying to stretch what soil I've got left. Like I was saying I know were so rich soil is that's good and black along the mountain sides that some of these hollers are that water runs outta of. I've never really had much luck with this brown hard mud like native soil even mixing it with some store bough soil it's hard to get anything to grow like you want it too
No I normally don't even use the native soil unless I'm running low on Promix or Ocean Forest or trying to stretch what soil I've got left. Like I was saying I know were so rich soil is that's good and black along the mountain sides that some of these hollers are that water runs outta of. I've never really had much luck with this brown hard mud like native soil even mixing it with some store bough soil it's hard to get anything to grow like you want it too
goingrey
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Why at the bottom if you don't mind me asking? I'm putting it at the top (smallish hole filled up and covered with soil). Because that is what the box says to do. But now that I think about it the instructions could be for plants directly in the ground and not in containers. It's an organic slow release tomato fertilizer.
I did this last year when ran out of tent room. The sun beating on a well rooted plant is amazing. Don't get any ideas of bringing them back inside, because of bugs.
Well because once the plants get a little older and the roots get developed in the bottom area of the containers they'll have some fertilizer for all the root mass. I don't put a lot of slow release because I still feed regular. And to kinda give the plants a couple weeks to get older before they really get down into that fertilizer. I've added slow release in the entire soil mix before, also sprinkled some in the top area or the soil. I've never noticed much difference however you chose to do it so I guess it's just preference. I've always been one to have a few plants I'll test with different methods every indoor or outdoor grow. I don't use slow release fertilizer until I run outta Promix/Ocean Forest. If I'm using regular potting soil from the store I'll put the slow release ferts in that if I've got plants I need to transplant until I can get more Promix and Ocean Forest. I have to order the Ocean Forest so sometimes it takes a couple wks to arrive. But its just a preference putting it in the bottom area of mine. I mostly add the fertilizer every watering or every other time. I don't usually do much top dressing or adding ferts to the top of the soil. Everybody's kinda got there own methods especially after they get experience and it works for them. Like I said I always experiment with different methods but once you figure out what works you kinda go with it. But I really don't think theres much difference especially no more slow release than I put in the mix. I'm not saying it's right or wrong just preference. Try some different methods every grow it'll only help you learn more. I've grew over 20yrs and still experiment every grow with a couple plants!!
goingrey
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Always good to experiment for sure. I'll try adding the fertilizer to the bottom this year and see if there's a difference. For the initial dose that is., too difficult o do it for the second one halfway through the plant's life.
Yea when you go to transplant them into your final outdoor container try to add some in the bottom. You probably won't notice much difference but you know theyll be some food down there around all your roots to uptake. You should be able to still add some around the top for top dressing just don't add to much. I usually stay close to what the box calls for to add, maybe go a bit less or use a plant to test it out with. Especially if your already doing good with top dressing I wouldn't veer to far away from your tried and true methods for the bulk of your plants. Try a couple different ways and see how they do on a couple plants. I go by the old indoor grow bible when flushing...I think it's around 3gal plain water per gal of soil or flush them a couple weeks before harvest and you'll get the clean taste and good burning finished product. I hate to taste fertilizer in the weed I do a heavy flush on indoor and outdoor plants.
St. Phatty
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Time to plant, yes it is !
Time to plant, yes it is !
St. Phatty
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Are you starting them indoors for outdoors St. Phatty/?
Yes, or, Probably.
asnob charas
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Your off to a great start. Looking forward to this year myself, hoping for some amazing weather for everyone.
