if i remember correctly its the the most recent(new growth) fully formed leaf after mid day(in the afternoon)
anybody else?
anybody else?
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food for the dome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WRecH5v1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WRecH5v1M
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food for the dome (full meal deal)
Reams Ag Critique by Rex Harrill
http://www.brixman.com/uploads/1/4/6/9/14694740/prefaceversion_0.9.pdf
Reams Ag Critique by Rex Harrill
http://www.brixman.com/uploads/1/4/6/9/14694740/prefaceversion_0.9.pdf
glad you are still keeping this thread alive!
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approaching genetic potential with organic-biological ag (seeing is believing)
http://youtu.be/wFEIeTn-NhA
http://youtu.be/wFEIeTn-NhA
man c-ray, again, thanks for letting us know about this boat before it sailed, even if some people don't get on
Dam, didn't see this thread. Looks like I found what I am watching during harvest this year. Thanks C-ray, I am using AEA products right now and I have been really liking them so far. Their science is second to none.
Please do direct to me where I can find this 'second to none' science.
Overall their (AEA) products appear to be nothing more than the usual mixed and remixed bag(s) of;
Leonardite
Rock Phosphate
Molasses
Urea
Calcium Nitrate
Calcite
Potassium acetate
Potassium Sulfate
Kelp
Magnesium Chloride
Boric Acid
Cobalt Sulfate
Copper Sulfate
Zinc Sulfate
Manganese Sulfate
Sodium Molybdate
Zinc Sulfate
Sodium Molybdate
Yucca
Seaweed
The most interesting of which are seaweed and yucca. Of course there is the typical obligatory mycorrhiza added in here and there for marketing effect.
Also in their line is Seacrop which I've heard varying reports about.
Seashield sounds interesting as it contains fish but appears to have no phosphoric or sulphuric acid added as a stabilizer. I'd be interested in researching this.
A point I've just been made aware of is that there is a possibility that the phosphoric acid used in fish hydrolysate could add a much higher level of soluble phosphorus to the soil solution than I previously thought. More research is required on my part to come to a conclusion on this.
The plant leaf (sap) analysis is a joke. AEA does not even do it but passes it on to a real laboratory. Tissue analysis does make sense. It is something farmer's have used for many years. A nutrient tissue analysis provides what nutrients the plants are actually uptaking. It makes way more sense than soil testing. I almost feel sorry for the blueberry farmer who really does not appear to have a clue about what he is trying to say. He is reporting on the success he found in growing naturally with living soil. He does not appear to have a foundational understanding of why he is seeing this success so he is open to believing what he is told.
The part about the insects avoiding a certain frequency ..?? Obviously someone bent his ear. Data would be interesting. Ya never know, eh?
Note that quite possibly the greatest reason for improved success is the pruning of the canes. This increases growth vigor and berry production in both brambles and blueberries. I'm glad he mentioned it.
You know that I support and believe in living soil growing but really, is this poor guy just being led a little bit further than required, so he can be convinced that he needs all these products?
Microbeman - I am not saying the products are all that, but the science behind the program is the same any organic gardener is shooting for. One thing you missed about those products is they have been micronized and balled, which makes for almost immediate absorption. He also stresses the importance of Albrect's ratios in the soil, which is where I am headed with my growing. The combination of soil testing and tissue testing to Alcrect ratios, micronized balled nutrients, and importance on the soil health seems like a winning combination.
Another thing coming up that BambooGardner is working on with Micheal Astrea is a soil mixed to these specifications. Rare Earth in Grass Valley is making a bulk batch of soil that will be mixed, then tested, then re amended to the Albrect ratio's. Then once that is reached it will receive watering and teas until sold. With this soil, AEA fertilizer's and a sound approach gives any gardner a chance to excel.
Here I am now preaching about bottled nutes....doh!
More than one way to skin a cat, but AEA sounds like one of those ways.
Another thing coming up that BambooGardner is working on with Micheal Astrea is a soil mixed to these specifications. Rare Earth in Grass Valley is making a bulk batch of soil that will be mixed, then tested, then re amended to the Albrect ratio's. Then once that is reached it will receive watering and teas until sold. With this soil, AEA fertilizer's and a sound approach gives any gardner a chance to excel.
Here I am now preaching about bottled nutes....doh!
More than one way to skin a cat, but AEA sounds like one of those ways.
I grow organic/natural but do not believe Albrect's ratios are important nor valid. I posted this link in this forum a few months back
Also related;
https://web.archive.org/web/20030713015800/http://www.vabf.org/soilresum.php
Also related;
https://web.archive.org/web/20030713015800/http://www.vabf.org/soilresum.php
So if not Albrect's, then what soil ratio's do you shoot for?
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so all in all.. a 6.4 sap ph.. will keep pests at bay? or ?
and to attain 6.4... what ph are we supposed to be putting into the soil. water wise.. and or does it not matter or?
and to attain 6.4... what ph are we supposed to be putting into the soil. water wise.. and or does it not matter or?
the pH is a result of balanced minerals ...not what the water or the soil is pH at , although , if the soil is also balanced I find its pH to be 6.2-6.4
6.4 will keep pests away 100% for sure. You will always have some bugs, but never an infestation. If you watched the videos they talk about farms that surround a farm, the surrounding farms are all infected with bugs bad. Those farms are chemical fed farms, and the farm not affected even though surrounded by bugs was the organic farm.
If you have ever grown an entire organic garden then you will know that this looks like. I always grow 100% organic with everything I grow. From produce, cannabis to lawns and shrubs. I have never found a bug infestation in my organic garden after about a year of implementing organic gardening. Not only do you have to apply organics, but you have to be doing it right before it really pays off.
If you have ever grown an entire organic garden then you will know that this looks like. I always grow 100% organic with everything I grow. From produce, cannabis to lawns and shrubs. I have never found a bug infestation in my organic garden after about a year of implementing organic gardening. Not only do you have to apply organics, but you have to be doing it right before it really pays off.
You can foliar ca and k to skip the soil lock ups
MM...why do you think sap analysis is a joke? Do you also feel the horiba hardy meters have no use? The basic argument is that sap analysis provides a look at what is available for new growth. Tissue analysis will alsi include ca and b that is immobile and not available.
Sea shield is a mystery and I remain nervous using it. The chitosan claim along with how it is stabalized both bother me. At the same time ii like the results.
Plus you are ignoring the micronized part. Maybe not a big deal in your well established a d highly functioning soil. But if you have a problem it does work fsster
Edit...btw that mag cl bothered me to. But I think that is the mg from the sea water...just a way of avoiding stating on a label what the actual ingredients are.
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according to Arden Andersen at sap pH 6.4 the plant will put out more of a white light, while deviation will produce other colours (that are attractive to pests)
