Pinstripe's 2nd try: PC case + 22W LED

[pinstripe]

Thanks, cheese! Meant a lot to me. Good vibes coming back atcha

A bunch of the lower fan leaves have been looking like this for maybe 3-4 weeks.

Please let me know if you know why the leaves would turn brown/yellow like that!
It could be a salt build-up problem, as I haven't been watering till run off. Always let the pot soak water on a tray, won't do that again though.

EDIT: Seems to be phosphorous deficiency caused by high pH.

All the best

 

[pinstripe]

OK, I'm back... maybe. I got really disturbed by LEDGirl claiming her pseudoscience was real science. Got so annoyed that hanging out on ICMAG just was no more fun, so that's why I've been away.
Won't let that stop those of you interested in my grow to get updated on how my grow's going, though.

The plants aren't harvested yet. No amber trichomes and maybe 50/50 clear/cloudy.

I probably messed up a bit with the P deficiency I wrote about in the post above, and maybe gave 'em a mild nuteburn a few weeks ago too.
The deficiency has got the plants so bad that all lower fan-leaves have died, and recently the sugar leaves started showing symptoms of it.

Common symptoms apparently are stunted growth, reddish stems and the brown/grey leaf tips. Check, check, check.
Flushed a few days ago with rainwater/25% recommended strength nutes.

I'll let you know if anything happens.

Peace out

 

[BC Chronic]

Nice case bro..led's are amazing....I really hope all works out for you and your girls..

 

[Zombo]

OK, I'm back... maybe. I got really disturbed by LEDGirl claiming her pseudoscience was real science. Got so annoyed that hanging out on ICMAG just was no more fun, so that's why I've been away.
Won't let that stop those of you interested in my grow to get updated on how my grow's going, though.

The plants aren't harvested yet. No amber trichomes and maybe 50/50 clear/cloudy.

I probably messed up a bit with the P deficiency I wrote about in the post above, and maybe gave 'em a mild nuteburn a few weeks ago too.
The deficiency has got the plants so bad that all lower fan-leaves have died, and recently the sugar leaves started showing symptoms of it.

Common symptoms apparently are stunted growth, reddish stems and the brown/grey leaf tips. Check, check, check.
Flushed a few days ago with rainwater/25% recommended strength nutes.

I'll let you know if anything happens.

Peace out

Great job. I used to do DIY LED arrays for saltwater reef aquaria (smaller than 30g). Cool stuff -- I'm still a fan of Buckpucks for my CC driver needs, especially the wired ones with a dimming pot!

 

[asa77sol]

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[m4c]

Oh man thos girls are looking great! Gotta look more into LED lights myself, cause You showed me that they have a LOT of potential especially for micro grows.

 

[pinstripe]

Thanks for comin' by and for the kind words, guys! Makes me happy if I've inspired any of you


Now you got me interested in getting a reef aquarium, Zombo! I love getting to play with both tech and life Those buckpucks indeed seem to come in handy. I'm guessing you combine those with a constant voltage source?

Hey m4c, I think the LED guru knna is opening a shop sometime in april and maybe sell parts for DIY kits like the one I have. So keep an eye open

The lowest wattage grow I've seen was with a single 23 or 26W CFL. Beat that by a couple of watts I definitely will post the weights when ready. I'll try to get the wet weights as well.


I looked at the trichs more closely today, and some buds had about 70% cloudy and 30% clear trichomes. I read it's fine chopping at that ratio if you have an indica dominant strain, but other growers have said with NLxC99 to wait for 10% ambers, so I'll try to wait a little longer.
I hope trichomes are an accurate way of telling if the buds are mature or not, even with delayed flowering!

I'm very confused on how to both get the plants to mature and flush them. I definitely don't want to mess up when I've come this far.

 

[mr.ganj]

if i where u i would cut them down when at least 25%-50% ambers 10% seems way to early but who nows it could just b the strain

 

[pinstripe]

Thanks for the input, mr.ganji! Much appreciated. Agreed that it could depend on the strain/environment, so we'll never see 90% cloudy and 10% ambers on these plants.

Couldn't find anything about this in any harvest guides, but I'm guessing some plants will reach maximum potency with some trichomes still being clear. That is also what got me confused.

I gave it a closer look and found that half of the buds are having a few amber trichomes, so I'm thinking those buds will be cut down next weekend.

Also, a few days after flushing to fix the P deficiency, a bunch of new pistils grew out, so probably the flush helped some.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

ur grow was my photo of the month monination. cus I think the the mincro growers need a chance to win too. with buds like these for real.

 

[pinstripe]

Wow, thanks cheese! The girls and I are flattered Agreed buds don't need to be calf sized to look good.

Have a good one!

 

[superpedro]

Still lurking, great show! Amazing from such low wattage.

 

[DrGreenFingerz]

Thanks for coming back definitely interested to see how this one turns out. Still looking for a suitable heatsink here so nothing built yet.

 

[pinstripe]

Good to still have you onboard, superpedro and GreenFingerz!

I'm siiiiiick of waiting. Nothing much has happened for about a month, so the last pics I uploaded are still accurate

I'm afraid the buzz will get to racy/edgy if I cut the plants with trichomes being 60-70% cloudy and the rest being clear. Depends on how C99-dominant these plants are.
The amber trichomes I spotted earlier were in fact damaged ones. No wonder they turned amber.

Anyhow, closer trichome check tomorrow and hopefully harvest the day after that.

 

[DrGreenFingerz]

Man take a small nug and do a quick dry to see how she is. I don't like em racy either. Wonder why she wont finish though

 

[pinstripe]

Yeah I know I should get a sample, but neither me or my friends have time for that till a week from now. Get over here and sample it for me

Here's why I think they wont finish:
*Been watering with straight tap water which I recently found out had pH above 8 and chlorine in it.
*To start with, flowering was probably a month delayed because of the 13/11 light schedule, plants almost dying from drought three times, and temps being 70 at day/60-65 at night for 3 weeks in mid flowering.
On top of that I cut down on the nutrients way too early.
*P deficiency. Maybe a combination of high pH, lack of nutrients, and low humidity.
*Clamydia (wasn't me)
*Maybe rootbound.
*Haven't given the girls nutes since I flushed them to cure the P deficiency. Meaning no nutes for approx 2-3 weeks.

EDIT: *Also, maybe I've just crammed too many plants into the box with too little light. Maybe the fan leaves need more light.
*Another thing I can think of is how the soil gets really compact and hard the longer you go. That's gotta slow some things down.

 

[ScrubNinja]

How many days flower you at now? I've read that stuff like ^that can slow 'em down, so yeah, hang in there.

 

[pinstripe]

Big thanks, Scrub! I actually quit keeping track of how long they've been into flower. That's how bored I got But about 14.5 weeks since preflowers showed up. This is gonna end up like a 4 months+ grow.

Had a look at the trichs today and noticed progress. Woho! Quite a few "Natural ambers" (not damaged ones) on the sugar leaves, and trichs on the calyxes are about 70% cloudy/30% clear.

I hate how I always say "Chop next week" and nothing happens. So now I say they're done when they're done. Period.

It's interesting how only some of the buds respond to the flush. Also, some buds look the same as 1 month ago, while others have grown a tiny bit.

Peace

 

[ScrubNinja]

Wow, long time!

You didn't mention it in your list, but is there a chance you had (or have) a light leak? 'Cos I know for sure that slows it way down, and would fit those symptoms. Peace.

 

[pinstripe]

There's a minor glow from the intake light trap, but you have to keep the room pitch black in order to notice that. So nothing from light leaks I don't think.

Now that you mention that, there are like 10 seeds on a tiny bud in a corner. No seeds on the rest. So one plant could've hermied quickly for some reason. The timer I have isn't reliable in any way, so it definitely is possible that irregular lighting could be the bad guy.