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~PIFF~ A.K.A. Uptown Haze/Frankies/Church. Preserving a Heritage...
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chill out bro its all love no shots
lite up or somthin
i lov to discuss our nyc haze thats it really
i lov to bust it down nn i think im spot on
soo its just mythought
just said i dont thin it traces bac to jamaica its not that crazy since many colombian n thai came to jamaica
cf
pure sativa hybrid possibly mexican strains have som resonable flowerin time
26 yeaa nn did o.haze flower 26 wks
you kno my feelin is i belive its a colomXmex hybrid of hb first crosses
theres is many hybrids wit piff traits but frank is not mass produced its not consistinently available on the block
money dont mean shit
thats the best bud ive eva smoked
lite up or somthin
i lov to discuss our nyc haze thats it really
i lov to bust it down nn i think im spot on
soo its just mythought
just said i dont thin it traces bac to jamaica its not that crazy since many colombian n thai came to jamaica
cf
pure sativa hybrid possibly mexican strains have som resonable flowerin time
26 yeaa nn did o.haze flower 26 wks
you kno my feelin is i belive its a colomXmex hybrid of hb first crosses
theres is many hybrids wit piff traits but frank is not mass produced its not consistinently available on the block
money dont mean shit
thats the best bud ive eva smoked
HindukushMaster
Active member
piffplants look sexy as hell man. heres some blockworky, yellow opie-dopie dank goodness. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTiCBM-dvD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTiCBM-dvD8
Fatt Daddy
Member
I was/am chilled. Just wanted to make what I was saying clear...that's all. (and I don't think the jamaica idea is too far-fetched either...but again; who knows).
fattdaddy
good glad we cleared the air
soo ur still fixed on this jamaican thing
im just tryin to piece the puzzle n it seems there r too many connections between nyc haze n mns haze hybrids to not acknowledge that we hold som gems of the late 60's or early 70's
tooo be quite frank bout frank i said many times b4 bout church n incense n catpiss n until i said this i hadnt heard much tlk of haze wit that description by anyone .mns forums web site has the best comparison of our hazes flavs n aromas exactly how ive been describing these hybrids all along nn ive not seen anyone or heard anyone agree to the tee wit me bout flavs lmao how everyone says hazy lol basement lame description of most likely the hybrids not frank
wat a coinkydink
1luvbigherb
good glad we cleared the air
soo ur still fixed on this jamaican thing
im just tryin to piece the puzzle n it seems there r too many connections between nyc haze n mns haze hybrids to not acknowledge that we hold som gems of the late 60's or early 70's
tooo be quite frank bout frank i said many times b4 bout church n incense n catpiss n until i said this i hadnt heard much tlk of haze wit that description by anyone .mns forums web site has the best comparison of our hazes flavs n aromas exactly how ive been describing these hybrids all along nn ive not seen anyone or heard anyone agree to the tee wit me bout flavs lmao how everyone says hazy lol basement lame description of most likely the hybrids not frank
wat a coinkydink
1luvbigherb
xOOx
Active member
i remember threads about pure sativa images, even in the ultimate sativa thread that had fatter leaves. just because a pheno has super thin thin leaves doesn't mean its the only representation of a pure sativa. i've seen people post pure sativas with very fat indica like leaves. if you think about it, thinner leaves would be for a more sunny island environment. i don't think more light is generally gonna be better for a specific plant of any kind. its not going to overeat (photosynthesis) its going to process just the right amount of food it needs from its light source, and no more. more light would just be wasted or might even cause damage. i think each plant has a set amount that it would like to soak up and burn, to exist healthy, and if its environment provides plenty of light, it will reduce its satellite dishes in size to compensate. up in a low light mountain/rainforest tropicalish region .. those thin leaf sativas would have to genetically evolve some fatter leaves to catch as much light as it can.. clouds drop in the mountains like fogs and block/filter the sun. clear days, HAZY days, foggy days during its growing cycle. half day mountain blocked sun, etc. most likely the larger fan leaves would fall off and vanish out of the way to allow inner bud blade leaves to catch the remaining rays..as far as observing lots of indica leaf pics, i notice they are a lot more crinkly or fringy/poofy along with being generally fat all the way through flower.
not ruling out a cross of any kind, its logically possible and very probable. but a pure sativa can have fatter fan leaves then you think, that's all i'm trying to say. i think..
lol.
xoox
not ruling out a cross of any kind, its logically possible and very probable. but a pure sativa can have fatter fan leaves then you think, that's all i'm trying to say. i think..
lol.
xoox
HindukushMaster
Active member
xOOx good point, a sativa can infact have fatty leaves... look at the diesels and even some ssh's
xOOx
Active member
body planted on the couch..
head in the clouds..
that brown nugs above post tho, i've had that before i'm sure of it. paralizing crippler high. i think in some other threads it was the manhatten brown? like yer leg fell asleep pins n needles and weighs 300 lbs .. uncomfortable body high for me. kinda hurts. everyone has their own favorite feeling tho, and their favorite version of nyc nugs.. HK were those more indica experience?
something did fly across my high head last night...what if there is one plant, or will be one plant, that has the ability, in one of its many abilities like pain relief, stress relaxation, visionary spritual, etc, to do something sneaky. an ability in its cannabinoid makeup to make you NOT like other strain highs.
it doesn't have to be overly potent, but think about it. in a survival sense, if it wants to be the one to live and go on, it would want to make you NOT like the others. so actually that would be the killer and best of all best strains.
but then you have to ask.. is there a universal receptor site, shared by everyone, that once filled with that combo will make that kinda reaction. that would be your piff right..maybe thats why some people like some strains over another.. if there isn't a universal combo that is, just find the one that fills it, and your done..
i always remember when growing up the things they told you not to do MJ, cause yo, you never know what the experience is gonna be..it could be bad, good, you could get happy, depressed.. and all the time i thought that may be true until i realized that diff strains and phenos really do diff things.. and if you smoke a clone i get the same exact experience, everytime.. depending on dose level of course. but its still the same ride. you either like it, or your hate it.
xoox
head in the clouds..
that brown nugs above post tho, i've had that before i'm sure of it. paralizing crippler high. i think in some other threads it was the manhatten brown? like yer leg fell asleep pins n needles and weighs 300 lbs .. uncomfortable body high for me. kinda hurts. everyone has their own favorite feeling tho, and their favorite version of nyc nugs.. HK were those more indica experience?
something did fly across my high head last night...what if there is one plant, or will be one plant, that has the ability, in one of its many abilities like pain relief, stress relaxation, visionary spritual, etc, to do something sneaky. an ability in its cannabinoid makeup to make you NOT like other strain highs.
it doesn't have to be overly potent, but think about it. in a survival sense, if it wants to be the one to live and go on, it would want to make you NOT like the others. so actually that would be the killer and best of all best strains.
but then you have to ask.. is there a universal receptor site, shared by everyone, that once filled with that combo will make that kinda reaction. that would be your piff right..maybe thats why some people like some strains over another.. if there isn't a universal combo that is, just find the one that fills it, and your done..
i always remember when growing up the things they told you not to do MJ, cause yo, you never know what the experience is gonna be..it could be bad, good, you could get happy, depressed.. and all the time i thought that may be true until i realized that diff strains and phenos really do diff things.. and if you smoke a clone i get the same exact experience, everytime.. depending on dose level of course. but its still the same ride. you either like it, or your hate it.
xoox
thats how i like it
yy too much couchlock im not speakin from experience but its been many reports of pure sativa of couchlockin variety as explained b4 som colombian werr known too hav this effect
as 4 look look at oaxacan plants in general or the pic of oax from the cervantes grow bible
much resemblence to art pheno 2 i believe n the uppie seeds ive seen grown outdoors
yy too much couchlock im not speakin from experience but its been many reports of pure sativa of couchlockin variety as explained b4 som colombian werr known too hav this effect
as 4 look look at oaxacan plants in general or the pic of oax from the cervantes grow bible
much resemblence to art pheno 2 i believe n the uppie seeds ive seen grown outdoors
Riddle me this guys...I have yet to have the pleasure of smoking Piff/Franks?Uptown...I love my hybrids to death, and REALLY love a good haze. Unfortunately I am hypo-manic, so some sattys have sent me straight into an anxiety attack. Is this one of those? JH, SSH, Kali...these are all cool with me, some of my favorites. But Nevilles or Melon haze have both sent me off.
Just askin, cause I may be a lucky guy and aquiring a cut or cross.
good vibes
Just askin, cause I may be a lucky guy and aquiring a cut or cross.
good vibes
horror business
Member
whiskey, in my experience it is a very soaring sativa high that enhances everything, but it still has some stone in it, but not too much.
It's like the best aspects of a sativa, without the paranoia that sometimes accompany them. It tastes delicious, smells delicious, and it puts you in an amazing world.
I think you would enjoy it based on what you described you like and dislike.
It's like the best aspects of a sativa, without the paranoia that sometimes accompany them. It tastes delicious, smells delicious, and it puts you in an amazing world.
I think you would enjoy it based on what you described you like and dislike.
thanks man! You got exactly what I was trying to ask...lol
Fatt Daddy
Member
yeah thats true, but those two strains you've listed are hybrids. I also believe ny haze to be a hybrid. To me it just doesn't make sense for such a commercially popular strain to be pure Sativa.
And bigherb; i'm not really fixed on the jamaican theory. I see it as a possibility, but I really don't know what to believe. I'm pretty much open to any likely possibility out there. One thing I can say is that this thread keeps me coming back, and there is always some interesting conversation going on in here.
horror business
Member
I also believe it has some indica in it, but it's undeniable it's very sativa dominant. Like I said, to this day, out of all the cali elites, and organic delicious seed-strains I've had, nothing comes close to the smell/taste/high of Piff.
xOOx
Active member
WT..
this can be any good weed you like i guess, but for me..
at lower doses,
a creeper.. these effects are felt within 15 minutes of session.. body high ..very relaxed, maybe underwater feeling, floaty. tingly toes, etc. cheeks may be tingly like coming in from the very cold 25F into a warm house, some lip/gum,teeth numbness, always reminds me of the dentist and novacaine. comes and goes. but no PAIN sensations like some crippler strains bring on. like a weird pain/uncomfortable in ur arm or something..theres always something about a strain i don't like, but this is the one that you like the best always.
backs off, comes back at you in waves, just as you think its starting to back down and maybe you need more, you're right back there again, ahh no.. i don't need more i'm good.
head feels like a big punching balloon, expanding, thoughts are scatterd, some confusion at higher doses, old memories bouncing around, maybe some trippy thoughts, ideas, visions. good times.
vision/sight is hazy, smoke filled roomish, dreamy - people will know your high 30 minutes after you smoke, because you may be moving like a robot, jumpy, bouncy, glassy eyes, dry mouth at higher dose, eyes get blood shot red, but don't dry and scratch out, stays moist.. you can easily lose track of a conversation, or say something pretty wtf, then can't remember what you said or what you want to say. so def. some short term memory loss, lol -- ya feel like robert downey jr. from the club scene in Less Than Zero!
maybe you will think you are a rock star on stage rockin to a crowd, and you will feel the rush of the crowds euphoria, etc. its good be by yourself weed i think rather then party..but its different in that type situation..makes you talkative too..
the euphoria .. uplifting, elated, feeling like you just had sex, smile on your face if you some funny memory from 20 years ago comes forward, content. none of that crappy strain down sick stomach dirty feeling ashtray mouth.
hearing.. echos.. weird sounds, focusing in on one instrument or beat in music that you've never heard before. music is awesome. you can listen to a pc speaker and it sounds like your in a concert hall. sometimes i hear like a train horn in the distance like wtf, there ain't no train there. mind is playin tricks. you hear shit that may make you nervous then you start looking around the house like wtf was that. maybe that's what it feels like to be schizo? temporary SCHIZO, LOL
things like that ...with no distractions to take you out of that world.
very stress releaving,
at higher doses,
a little bit of racy, maybe heart palpatations, pacing, don't know what to do with yourself. get up, sit down, take a piss, wash your face. but it goes away in 20-30 minutes and gets more of the above good feelings in the peak.
everything same from the light dose, but just stronger.. maybe daylight strobe effect, kinda like an acid trip rise. for me anyway.. head high factor for sure. without the sense of impending doom that some strains can bring you with that kind of a scary racy. but you know some people love that impending doom feeling, LOL .. there are versions that are intense racy, like in a panic omg this shit is laced, heart attack coming im gonna die this time, need to get AIR, but i personally don't like that .. its a distraction, but you can get there if you go at it hard.
so
hmm
it feels like 1992, cause that's when i started getting this type of herb/feelings..from up there
..with a pair of 1970s glasses on...
its a pleasant cool/smooth smoke. no burning, etc. easy to breath in.
i get these effex from one or two decent hits off a bowl or a bat, and it will last prob 1.5-2 hours or more until i have to rehit. not as intense all the way thru of course, it rises, peaks, and falls off. if i stop smoking it will take at least 6-8 hours before my head and body may feel like i hadn't partaken that day. sensations will linger for hours..especially the uplifting feeling..it does not just vanish. some strains i've smoked will do these sensations somewhat, to some degree, more or less racy, and then 45-1hrs into the experience..out of no where, within 2-5 minutes, POOF, reality. like you spin right out of it, head clearing up, like wtf, what a let down. i think most have experienced that quick drop off from a particular strain?...well not uptown.its a stickler.
i have a low tolerance to it. i really think its one of the best you can experience. you can sure build a tolerance too it tho, just like anything else.
xoox
this can be any good weed you like i guess, but for me..
at lower doses,
a creeper.. these effects are felt within 15 minutes of session.. body high ..very relaxed, maybe underwater feeling, floaty. tingly toes, etc. cheeks may be tingly like coming in from the very cold 25F into a warm house, some lip/gum,teeth numbness, always reminds me of the dentist and novacaine. comes and goes. but no PAIN sensations like some crippler strains bring on. like a weird pain/uncomfortable in ur arm or something..theres always something about a strain i don't like, but this is the one that you like the best always.
backs off, comes back at you in waves, just as you think its starting to back down and maybe you need more, you're right back there again, ahh no.. i don't need more i'm good.
head feels like a big punching balloon, expanding, thoughts are scatterd, some confusion at higher doses, old memories bouncing around, maybe some trippy thoughts, ideas, visions. good times.
vision/sight is hazy, smoke filled roomish, dreamy - people will know your high 30 minutes after you smoke, because you may be moving like a robot, jumpy, bouncy, glassy eyes, dry mouth at higher dose, eyes get blood shot red, but don't dry and scratch out, stays moist.. you can easily lose track of a conversation, or say something pretty wtf, then can't remember what you said or what you want to say. so def. some short term memory loss, lol -- ya feel like robert downey jr. from the club scene in Less Than Zero!
maybe you will think you are a rock star on stage rockin to a crowd, and you will feel the rush of the crowds euphoria, etc. its good be by yourself weed i think rather then party..but its different in that type situation..makes you talkative too..
the euphoria .. uplifting, elated, feeling like you just had sex, smile on your face if you some funny memory from 20 years ago comes forward, content. none of that crappy strain down sick stomach dirty feeling ashtray mouth.
hearing.. echos.. weird sounds, focusing in on one instrument or beat in music that you've never heard before. music is awesome. you can listen to a pc speaker and it sounds like your in a concert hall. sometimes i hear like a train horn in the distance like wtf, there ain't no train there. mind is playin tricks. you hear shit that may make you nervous then you start looking around the house like wtf was that. maybe that's what it feels like to be schizo? temporary SCHIZO, LOL
things like that ...with no distractions to take you out of that world.
very stress releaving,
at higher doses,
a little bit of racy, maybe heart palpatations, pacing, don't know what to do with yourself. get up, sit down, take a piss, wash your face. but it goes away in 20-30 minutes and gets more of the above good feelings in the peak.
everything same from the light dose, but just stronger.. maybe daylight strobe effect, kinda like an acid trip rise. for me anyway.. head high factor for sure. without the sense of impending doom that some strains can bring you with that kind of a scary racy. but you know some people love that impending doom feeling, LOL .. there are versions that are intense racy, like in a panic omg this shit is laced, heart attack coming im gonna die this time, need to get AIR, but i personally don't like that .. its a distraction, but you can get there if you go at it hard.
so
hmm
it feels like 1992, cause that's when i started getting this type of herb/feelings..from up there
..with a pair of 1970s glasses on...
its a pleasant cool/smooth smoke. no burning, etc. easy to breath in.
i get these effex from one or two decent hits off a bowl or a bat, and it will last prob 1.5-2 hours or more until i have to rehit. not as intense all the way thru of course, it rises, peaks, and falls off. if i stop smoking it will take at least 6-8 hours before my head and body may feel like i hadn't partaken that day. sensations will linger for hours..especially the uplifting feeling..it does not just vanish. some strains i've smoked will do these sensations somewhat, to some degree, more or less racy, and then 45-1hrs into the experience..out of no where, within 2-5 minutes, POOF, reality. like you spin right out of it, head clearing up, like wtf, what a let down. i think most have experienced that quick drop off from a particular strain?...well not uptown.its a stickler.
i have a low tolerance to it. i really think its one of the best you can experience. you can sure build a tolerance too it tho, just like anything else.
xoox
Thanks xoox! I really appreciate you breaking that down for me. I have heard so much about this strain, f.a.m has me anxious to try it. Just was a lil noid cause Im hypo manic and have severe anxiety. SSH, and Jack Herer are some of the satty dom plants I CAN smoke. I REALLY wanna try this piff...
good vibes
good vibes
G
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whiskeytango420 if you can;t find any piff try kalimist from serious seeds it is 90 % sativa but its got some afghan in ther that makes this sativa a real calm sativa .not like some c99 i have smoked .c99 will give any one noids from the raciness.but kali has a slow but long building sativa high that comes in waves.
Thanks dan! I have heard lots of good things about Kali. I LOVE C99 hybrids, but like you said, I get straight cracked out on C99 alone...lol
good vibes
wat does fat leaves hav to doo wit our haze there anin no fat leaves did you see arts pics
as we all kno nyc has many haze hybrids so aside from body reaction s we might experinece diff highs caz we anint smokin the same haze
the potency of the frankies hasnt been matched too me yet at least
real quick its above the clouds but hit by a mack truck stuck
as we all kno nyc has many haze hybrids so aside from body reaction s we might experinece diff highs caz we anint smokin the same haze
the potency of the frankies hasnt been matched too me yet at least
real quick its above the clouds but hit by a mack truck stuck
