Phylos Bioscience sparks outrage after announcing their beginning their own breeding

[VerdantGreen]

Hi Rick, TBH i haven't followed it all that closely, so i wouldn't claim to know everything that has gone on, but i can understand that business is business and they evolve, they have to attract investors. A lot of big business, pharma and ag. included, are indeed quite evil... but i wonder if Phylos themselves are being pre-judged and thought the worst of due to the actions of other, bigger companies, and growers/breeders understandable suspicion as cannabis goes through legalisation.

I think it is right and proper that they are scrutinised and made to account for themselves, but also treated fairly and not presumed evil just because bigger firms are that way. the disclaimer sounds dodgy but it is there for all to read and not that unusual.

The galaxy thing is kind of a gimmick but a good one that would obviously attract interest from growers and enthusiasts.
Them undertaking or collaborating in breeding projects seems a pretty obvious direction for them to go, i'm not sure they flat out said that they wouldn't do that or whether they just didn't say that they would?
Anyway, all i would say is that people should not judge a company by the actions of other companies, indeed by continuing to engage with phylos and hold them to account, this company MIGHT end up being an ally and protector to the IP of the small grower just as it might sell them all out. By treating them unfairly or blaming them for things they haven't yet done, they may get pushed away which could end up worse.


Sometimes, for progress and breakthroughs to be made, you have to trust people. Being suspicious of everyone is a reasonable stance in many ways, but whilst it my protect you from being ripped off, it may also stand in the way of progress.


VG

 

[izzypog]

Depending on how certain things are modified, I really have no problem with alteration of genetics. Science is important, the question is how far will we go, and will we understand it as we go? As far as Phylos, never have done business with them, now I never will. I like people upfront, if they cannot bother doing honest business then be prepared for what you get from them. Growing for me is a labor of love, for these guys, it is just another way to come in and milk the cash cow.

 

[englishrick]

God,, please,, will people listen to VG or correct him if he's wrong,, otherwise that option is the most accurate and most articulate here,,

I read the iP section of the website just a little over 10 months ago,,, if you get an agreement from them then it seems you are covered and protected,,, to me this seems like a valid service,,, even making homozygous lines from admitions is fine as a part of the company,,,

please look at the iP side of this,,, fudding the company is not constructive if we have got this shit wrong ,, this fud has become histerical,,, we are acting like crabs in a pot

 

[White Beard]

Hum, not so fast...

Epidiolex ~ may cause liver damage
Charlotte's Web ~ has no reported side effects.


Agree!

PS: I am growing tired of serious side effects from pharmaceuticals, being told that it effects 1% or less patients. That is alright if you don't fall in that 1% or, having to take another pharmaceutical to counteract the side effects of the 1st.

Yes we need BP but, not at the cost to human health!

The medicine that’s practiced in the US is centered on two pillars:
- one, the removal of malfunctioning pieces of the body
- two, the selective poisoning of the human biome

US/western medicine is supported by the petroleum industry; the bulk of the drugs used are synthetic derivatives of petroleum, while the bulk of the remainder is the result of identifying “active” elements of natural products (animal, vegetable, mineral, fungal) and extracting them from the “crude drug” context in which they were originally found to work. Everything else is ‘complementary’, which in their eyes is mere guesswork.

Under such a system, side-effects don’t matter unless they rise to the level of criminal culpability. Side-effects are collateral, acceptable losses, externalities that don’t find a place on a balance sheet.

These are the pimps the whores are auditioning for.

(This not an attack on medicine, on serious researchers or on practitioners)

 

[nim]

Riot is an idiot. He thinks Phylos can shoot a dead stem with a ray gun. Check your heros, you might be surprised at how little they know

 

[herbgreen]

Seems like some folks are wondering why put phylos on blast?


Mowgli says... "If we do that stuff" (GMO cannabis) "it would be for pharmaceutical extraction supply chains"

The big Ag companies in Mowglis own words "they will most likely acquire us"

@18:54 - 20:08

Phylos Bioscience Presentation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7DHkfT8Oh0


Seeds of Death: Unveiling The Lies of GMO's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6OxbpLwEjQ

The secret tactics Monsanto used to protect Roundup, its star product

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JszHrMZ7dx4


Scotts - Miracle grow is a consumer distributor of round-up and Monsanto partner

They now own general hydroponics, gavita, sunlight systems, and botanicare

Bayer now owns Monsanto... and what about Biotech Institute? Are they connected?


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Bayer is partnered with GW Pharmaceuticals, the UK-based company that grows marijuana, extracts compounds from it, and turns the compounds into pharmaceutical medicines.

Bayer is the licensed distributor for GW’s Sativex®, an expensive medical cannabis extract spray that patients say is less effective than growing and using their own buds.

Like Monsanto and Scotts Miracle-Gro, Bayer is a pathologically harmful corporation.

Bayer’s history includes making chemical weapons, providing material support (as part of the Farben group) for Hitler’s genocidal war crimes, using slave labor, and creating toxic and deadly products.

In 1898, Bayer trademarked the opiate diacetylmorphine, giving it the name heroin.

Bayer was the first company to mass produce and mass market heroin worldwide.

The company falsely claimed that heroin was great for children as a harmless curative for coughs and digestive disorders.

Monsanto has similarly made or contributed to the making of harmful products including saccharin, PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls), nuclear weapons, polystyrene, DDT, Agent Orange, RoundUp (glyphosate), bovine growth hormone (rGBH), Aspartame, GMOs, and dioxin.

GW purchased trademarked “solo cannabinoid” cannabis strains from two famous marijuana pioneers.

Monsanto and Scotts are purchasing rare landrace cannabis strains from well-known marijuana seed companies.

What do they want to do with these strains?


GMO Cannabis is the Likely Goal


“Monsanto and Bayer share information about genetically modifying crops,” Straumietis notes. “Bayer partners with GW Pharmaceuticals, which grows its own proprietary marijuana genetics. It’s logical to conclude that Monsanto and Bayer want to create GMO marijuana.”

If Monsanto and Bayer follow their usual agribusiness model, they’ll want to pharmaceuticalize THC, other cannabinoids, and terpenoids so you have to get a doctor’s prescription and buy marijuana compounds from corporations.

One important problem with Monsanto, Bayer, and Scotts Miracle-Gro linking up is that their goals are to control the world’s seed supply, food supply, agricultural chemicals, fertilizers, and medicines.

“These corporations reduce the variety and availability of native seeds,” he says. “They genetically modify crops so farmers have to buy new seeds every year. Farmers are forced to use corporate chemicals like RoundUp to grow them. They’d do the same thing with GMO marijuana.”

https://bigbudsmag.com/bayer-monsanto-buyout-gmo-marijuana/

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Seed : The Untold Story - clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssLf_DmTYU


I also think that one of Mowglis tactics is a scare tactic that big biotech is coming so you need to get a star in the galaxy

Biotech Institutes utility patents are very broad but 3% or higher CBD? Do I want or need this? And will it even hold up at all in the end I dont think so and now legal hemp CBD everywhere?

https://www.patentdocs.org/2017/11/...s-patent-no-9095554-and-the-path-forward.html

And the other one is....

PP27,475, entitled "Cannabis plant named 'Ecuadorian Sativa.'"

Pretty sure that's a clone and specific pheno And its a clone That is one plant...

So if you have the Federation Celestial Temple Sativa in seed I think youre still good there

Its Like I need to be worried so buy Phylos IP and prior art insurance

Maybe we do need be concerned about utility patents but its a Classical Sales Trick to get that urgent need to buy now


Its what is commonly known as a swindle


swin·dle

verb
1.
use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions.
"a businessman swindled investors out of millions of dollars"
noun
1.
a fraudulent scheme or action.
"he is mixed up in a $10 million insurance swindle"
synonyms: fraud, trick, deception, deceit, trickery, chicanery, exploitation, cheat, imposture, sham, sharp practice, artifice; ruse, dodge, racket, wile; informalcon trick, con, sting, diddle, rip-off, fiddle, flimflam, swizzle, swizz; informalbunco
"an insurance swindle"


Thank -You for playing our game We do have some wonderful parting gifts for you... Including this Ltd. Edition Phylos coffee mug


.

 

[herbgreen]

Riot is an idiot. He thinks Phylos can shoot a dead stem with a ray gun. Check your heros, you might be surprised at how little they know

Do you have a link to that w/ video time stamp of where he says that....

Sounds interesting.

 

[Switcher56]

Seems like some folks are wondering why put phylos on blast?

Mowgli says... "If we do that stuff" (GMO cannabis) "it would be for pharmaceutical extraction supply chains"

I haven't been at this for long but I pretty much knew that BP would be taking over the industry. Why? Look at the shit ton of money they are making on generic drugs. Just look at what BT has done with vaping, peddling "salt" nicotine.

 

[izzypog]

About 7 years ago vaping was going to replace smoking as a safer alternative, now, vaping causes popcorn lung, similar to what people were experiencing when working for jiffy pop some years before that. I am a diabetic, I take pill form insulin, all that I get is generic, why are generics cheaper if it is the same thing? I do not trust anybody that will value anything over honor. I have seen some wonderful businesses die from the corporate poisoning, Tri Con taking over KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza hut. All those restaurants now taste like shit. We have seen the corporate machine deform, mame, and pervert what we love. It is true, so far Phylos has done nothing wrong, they have stated their plans, most of us do not approve, the reason, principles, with that put there for you to consider.

 

[Switcher56]

About 7 years ago vaping was going to replace smoking as a safer alternative, now, vaping causes popcorn lung, similar to what people were experiencing when working for jiffy pop some years before that. I am a diabetic, I take pill form insulin, all that I get is generic, why are generics cheaper if it is the same thing? I do not trust anybody that will value anything over honor. I have seen some wonderful businesses die from the corporate poisoning, Tri Con taking over KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza hut. All those restaurants now taste like shit. We have seen the corporate machine deform, mame, and pervert what we love. It is true, so far Phylos has done nothing wrong, they have stated their plans, most of us do not approve, the reason, principles, with that put there for you to consider.

That my friend is pure unadulterated BS! That is a myth that spread like a wildfire. The only people affected by PL were the factory workers. If you watched the documentary on the subject the factory although having red brick walls, were yellow, covered in diacetyl. Factory workers did not wear masks.

That being said, there is more diacetyl in cigs than vape juice. That doesn't mean it's OK. No, diacetyl is no longer in e-liquid to produce the buttery flavour.

 

[Water-]

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[Nico Farmer]

That my friend is pure unadulterated BS! That is a myth that spread like a wildfire. The only people affected by PL were the factory workers. If you watched the documentary on the subject the factory although having red brick walls, were yellow, covered in diacetyl. Factory workers did not wear masks.

That being said, there is more diacetyl in cigs than vape juice. That doesn't mean it's OK. No, diacetyl is no longer in e-liquid to produce the buttery flavour.

Right, totally true!

 

[izzypog]

That my friend is pure unadulterated BS! That is a myth that spread like a wildfire. The only people affected by PL were the factory workers. If you watched the documentary on the subject the factory although having red brick walls, were yellow, covered in diacetyl. Factory workers did not wear masks.

That being said, there is more diacetyl in cigs than vape juice. That doesn't mean it's OK. No, diacetyl is no longer in e-liquid to produce the buttery flavour.

Vegetable glycerin and propelyn glycol are both used in vaping to this day. Both PG and VG when heated can cause damage to lungs.

 

[Guest]

The medicine that’s practiced in the US is centered on two pillars:
- one, the removal of malfunctioning pieces of the body
- two, the selective poisoning of the human biome

US/western medicine is supported by the petroleum industry; the bulk of the drugs used are synthetic derivatives of petroleum, while the bulk of the remainder is the result of identifying “active” elements of natural products (animal, vegetable, mineral, fungal) and extracting them from the “crude drug” context in which they were originally found to work. Everything else is ‘complementary’, which in their eyes is mere guesswork.

Under such a system, side-effects don’t matter unless they rise to the level of criminal culpability. Side-effects are collateral, acceptable losses, externalities that don’t find a place on a balance sheet.

These are the pimps the whores are auditioning for.

(This not an attack on medicine, on serious researchers or on practitioners)

Your last sentence is the biggest joke of the post. Your a clown. You hate big medicine and pharma so put your health where your constantly flapping pie hole is. Disavow all modern medicine and take not so much as an aspirin made by the evil empire Bayer. Go a step farther and be a lost ball eco warrior and swear off plastic by big oil or electric power. But you still get to use a laptop made of oil and components made with rare earth materials etc. powered by electricity from evil power plants because you are so important your message must be heard by all of us who need your wisdom (sic) since your the wisest of all. Nah,, you’re just a left wing loon.

 

[troutman]

Caroline Coatney = Breeding Project Coordinator at Phylos Bioscience Inc

Work Experience:

Discovery Genetics Research Associate
Monsanto Company
2015-2016

https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Caroline-Coatney/-1236333999

 

[Sertaiz]

stew man, how does one cross the road? first you gotta look at the other side from where you are currently standing.

hippocracy has been made a dirty word, but it takes a hippocrite to see what is wrong and still exist in this world.
literally nothing can be accomplished if we personally attack the people that are asking for better ways, things etc.

troutman nice catch there...

and hes right, they get kickbacks for things like giving you pills when "eat more veggies" makes them nothing... same with a surgeon, he/she is there to cut.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

X

 

[White Beard]

Your last sentence is the biggest joke of the post. Your a clown. You hate big medicine and pharma so put your health where your constantly flapping pie hole is. Disavow all modern medicine and take not so much as an aspirin made by the evil empire Bayer. Go a step farther and be a lost ball eco warrior and swear off plastic by big oil or electric power. But you still get to use a laptop made of oil and components made with rare earth materials etc. powered by electricity from evil power plants because you are so important your message must be heard by all of us who need your wisdom (sic) since your the wisest of all. Nah,, you’re just a left wing loon.

Smells like someone needs a new spleen...

 

[herbgreen]

Caroline Coatney = Breeding Project Coordinator at Phylos Bioscience Inc

Work Experience:

Discovery Genetics Research Associate
Monsanto Company
2015-2016

https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Caroline-Coatney/-1236333999

Phylos hiring right out Monsanto!

The path to GMO cannabis really is just a political problem for Mowgli and Phylos

Just how do we get around these pesky hippies outside protesting GMO cannabis

We can claim to be hippies ourselves! And then we can just... Lie!

These dumb stoners wont know the difference... It will die down

It will blow over


Then we can go back to work making Billions on Development of Genetically modified Cannabis

Its a political problem ....Its the politics of GMO that seem to be the barrier to Phylos using it according to Mowgli

Never mind what kind of damage it will do!

Pissing in the goddamn Gene pool


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[izzypog]

Phylos hiring right out Monsanto!

The path to GMO cannabis really is just a political problem for Mowgli and Phylos

Just how do we get around these pesky hippies outside protesting GMO cannabis

We can claim to be hippies ourselves! And then we can just... Lie!

These dumb stoners wont know the difference... It will die down

It will blow over


Then we can go back to work making Billions on Development of Genetically modified Cannabis

Its a political problem ....Its the politics of GMO that seem to be the barrier to Phylos using it according to Mowgli

Never mind what kind of damage it will do!

Pissing in the goddamn Gene pool


.

Exactly.