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Diary PCBuds mini-grow
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Maple_Flail
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are both window plant and closet plant the same auto varity? structure looks similar.
I dunno maybe closet ended up being a dud?
I dunno maybe closet ended up being a dud?
PCBuds
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Yes. They are both CanndyCane Autoflowers.
The window plant us about 4 days younger than the closest plant.
Yes, ... It is a dud. Lol.
Oh well,. I'll be starting over soon.
PCBuds
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I went Canadian Tire and got some PH up but they were sold out of PH down.
Then I phoned Home Hardware to see if the Perlite came in, and it didn't.
He said there is none at the warehouse and they aren't expecting any until September 1st.
I think the COVID has something to do with it.
All the grow stuff is pretty much out of stock everywhere.
So that means I probably can't start my next grow until September.
At least I have the PH up which is what I need for the closet plant.
You can get a bag of perlite on Amazon for like $15, and the stuff is light as potato chips, so shipping is cheap and easy.
PCBuds
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I've been checking there and eBay.
It's still really expensive.
That's for 9.5 liters.
My local hardware store has a 5-liter bag for $4.99. When it's in stock.
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PCBuds
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I typed in "espoma pr8 8-quart organic perlite" specifically, but nothing was listed for me.
I guess it doesn't ship to Canada so they don't list it for me?
I get no listings for anything from Canada.
PCBuds
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I might be able to reuse the perlite in my current grow.
I could put the media in a big tote and fill it with water.
The perlite should float to the top, then I could strain it off, rinse it out really good, then cook the hell out of it in the oven.
If it's clean, it shouldn't make any burnt toxins and my oven won't get too hot.
I could put the media in a big tote and fill it with water.
The perlite should float to the top, then I could strain it off, rinse it out really good, then cook the hell out of it in the oven.
If it's clean, it shouldn't make any burnt toxins and my oven won't get too hot.
PCBuds
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I checked the PH of my window plant and it had climbed back up to 7.0, so I put in a few drops of PH down again and brought it down to 5.7.
It only took two days to climb up to 7.0.
The new growth at the top looks quite healthy and happy.
It's got a bit of alga on the roots but it's not completely fouled.
It only took two days to climb up to 7.0.
The new growth at the top looks quite healthy and happy.
It's got a bit of alga on the roots but it's not completely fouled.
ReikoX
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f2obsession
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I just started to experiment with coco-perilte, and 5,8 seems to be the right ph here. Besides that I started another clone in coco-perilte+20% soil, and this medium seems to work out better for me.
PCBuds
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Soiless would be the term.
OK.
So that means I should aim for 5.8 right?
Soilless would be the same as hydro?
With my window plant too right?
(coco & perlite as well.)
That would be good because I've got a butt load of PH down now.
And from what I understand, it might need to dip above and below that point to make all nutes available.?
PCBuds
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I want to do things properly this time, at least with my closet plant.
Luckily, I think I have everything I need now, except maybe knowledge and experience. Lol
I'm going to try to not do dumb shit with my closet plant. Lol
PCBuds
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So these will be my nutes...
Any ideas on how much to use?
I intend to drain to waste but I don't want to waste too much. Lol
I want to water/nute the same way every time (not once a week.)
PS... I'm a bit nervous about the molybdenum in my Veg nutes.
I may be a ruminant animal!!
When I get stoned, I ruminate A Lot, and then I Veg out. Lol
Any ideas on how much to use?
I intend to drain to waste but I don't want to waste too much. Lol
I want to water/nute the same way every time (not once a week.)
PS... I'm a bit nervous about the molybdenum in my Veg nutes.
I may be a ruminant animal!!
When I get stoned, I ruminate A Lot, and then I Veg out. Lol
Yep, that should work. You might also soak it in a hydrogen peroxide solution after separating it, but looks like you're good to go now anyways.
It's technically hydro unless you are amending the medium with organic nutrients. You are feeding the plant "hydroponically" (feeding the plant using mineral nutrient solutions in a water solvent). There are many different mediums (rockwool, clay pellets, air, spray, perlite, vermiculite, peat, etc..) and typically coco/perlite would be considered a "soil-less" medium and ReikoX intimated. Personally I don't really like that term, because isn't everythng soil-less, if there isn't soil???
Coco is fairly forgiving in terms of pH, and these have been studies which indicate that a steady ph level is more important than trying to constantly adjust ph to shoot for the perfect level. For that reason I don't measure ph of runoff. I do measure ppm of runoff, because that's a good indication of how much the plant is eating, and how to adjust your feed.
That said you can get away with anything between 5.5 and 6.3 in coco, but I'd say shoot for 5.8 in veg and 6.0 in flower as optimal.
Soil is the combination of mineral particles generally smaller than 1mm (sand) and larger than .002 (clay), and humus (decayed organic materials). Adding manure wouldn't make it soil, because you don't have the mineral particles (sand, silt, clay) in the mix. I wouldn't suggest adding manure, but some people add earthworm castings. I would suggest that you just keep it simple for the next run and keep manures and such out of the mix. Don't get me wrong, I love organics, but I find true organic gardening pretty difficult indoors. I keep my organics in my raised beds in the back yard.
Use your ppm meter. If you have a scale, weigh up the amounts before you add them, then measure ppm. Shoot for 1EC (500ppm on my scale) for small plants in veg. As the plants get bigger, increase to 650ppm, then get up to 750ppm at start of flower. This will give you headroom to add 100ppm or so of cal/mag or epsom salts, and/or another 100ppm to 150ppm of bloom booster in later flower. Be sure to get ample runoff, then measure runoff. If the runoff it too high, water more, and consider lowering the ppms a bit. If the runoff is too low you know the plant can take more food. It's very strain dependent, so you have to gauge the plant. Indicas will often want more food, and sativas less. Hybrids are sometimes tricky, especially when they look Indica in veg, and then Sativa in flower.
