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Disciple must spread rep...
The sickness.
The sickness.
hi, mistress!
"the sickness" i'm on some kind of daily allowance or something. they cut me off every day.
for those industrial pulsers may i recommend 1/4-1/3 gal every 90-120 minutes day and night. this is for 30-35% air porosity and a 4" air gap in 3.5 gal containers.
"the sickness" i'm on some kind of daily allowance or something. they cut me off every day.
for those industrial pulsers may i recommend 1/4-1/3 gal every 90-120 minutes day and night. this is for 30-35% air porosity and a 4" air gap in 3.5 gal containers.
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DHF
The more things come to the forefront bout replacing dead stagnant solution on the bottom holding rez with the wick to prevent anaerobic actibity , along with clearing out and exchanging the O2 levels and juice in the upper rootmass with potential residual salt buildup for the greater good on a timed basis seems and looks plausible since it appears to be working..........
Respect D9......take us to school......
Peace..DHF....
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Respect D9......take us to school......
Peace..DHF....
....disciple said:
@disciple.... got that plantys not handwatered... but, were being tended, reconfig'd, maintain'd, pix'd, etc...
maybe, in long-ago galaxy, tryd wun or too buket systems.... from airpumps, airlines, airdifuserz, soakerhoses, waterpumps, drilled holes in bukets, aktive recirc, etc, etc...standalone & plummed... to.... c0c0+perlyte, no acesories, w/ wick 2/3 in top buket (same olde tyme drilled buket), w/ 1/3 of wick imersed into drainage in bottom bucket.... no hoses on floor, hoses to cleen, etc, etc...
? was for your POV on ~ how much water cunsumed...
when gardend, after try this/that amount water to give - w/ wick drawing up that water...., came to ruffly 1/5 volume of containr over 24-36hrs... if 5gal, water 1gal every moon to moon & a half.... if 20gal buket, water 5 gal evry moon or too... hand or macheen, seemed to workz well, either/0r... as long as top buket has some part that touches draiange - maybe wick (cloth or media), or actual buket barely touching draiange, etc, etc...
in imagination, w/ good dehumid + grohth + evaporashun, ~3/4- total of the water given to garden pushed out by leaves... & pulled out uv garden by dehumid macheen / aire-cond... ~1/4+ of water remain in lower buket for wick to draw up to keep bottom 2/3 of top buket moist... keep top 1/3 drier, for oxyjen to r00ts.... basicaly, veg 'til ~4x4-5x5, tri for 2+meters hyte+width @ finsish, for fresh basket uv tomatoes for soopz/saladz....
never tri pulse-pump delivery when gardened...
so...maybe? basic needz of plantys seem ~ similar... maybe, ~1/4 - 2/5 volume of container maybe amount of water to feed evry moon, moon & a 1/2... you POV on this?
nice workz on the garden!! espeshally the +perimeter lyties+ maxeng artifishal sun!!
thx agin member disciple for your POV...
delta9nxs said:
@delta9nxs...
the siknez?? col.(pp)k.
? teehee... pk seemz workz very well!! congradz & keep the pk's evolveng!!
thx for the recomend on feed amount.... w/ the evry 2hrs (120min), would be 12 feeds/day @ total of ~ 4gals (3.96) cycled thru....
... that would be ~1/1+ volume of container (your top 3.5 variation/suggestion) being amount of water cycled thru.... ?
if that acurate, how much vol is actualy used by planty? example...
if cycle thru 4gal/day for 12 -on- periodz over 24hrs, how much of the begining 4gal will be depleted from rez @ end of 24hrs??
@all pk'ers - good continued workz!!
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Guest 142956
Saw a pot today that was sort of like a hempy having a cut near the bottom with the material cupped out, the bottom has a plastic screened in area about 2 inches from the bottom and depressions in the screened in part for what amounts to a media wick. PPK stolen?
hey, bill, i would like to see the design. do you have a link?
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Guest 142956
My wife brought the pot home but I will find out.
Harvest
Harvest
I've been very anxiously awaiting this post...hello fellow passive Killers. My recent harvest is finally wrapped up, and I really couldn't be much happier. This run was tough on me, stresswise; it seemed like there were so many issues that even a harvest looked optimistic at times. But all prevailed, and I'm quite happy with my yield. I'll give you a brief rundown of my issues, and what I've already improved for my Round 2...
I'll begin with the important part, the numbers. I ran 3 OG (the specific cut I haven't quite pinpointed yet) and 8 Blue Dream. I started with 4 OG, but due to it being quite finnicky I managed to lose 1 early on. The 3 of those hit 18 oz's total, with the breakdown being 10, 4, and 4. I struggled with my success rate of these clones specifically, which equates to 1 plant vegging for 6 weeks compared the the standard 4 of the others. The remaining 8 Dream yielded 94 oz's, averaging 11.75 per. A total yield of just barely over 7 lb's on the 4k Hortliux's. I really, really wanted to hit that mental barrier of 2 lb's/light, but was just shy and am very ok with it, especially due to the fact that this first run seemed to have so many potentially fatal issues.
I'll try to list all of my problems I had throughout my run in hopes that it could help someone, as well as maybe myself through feedback. Wow, where to start...I'm still kind of blown away my crop even made it to a full harvest, to be honest. My pH was never stable. It was in the 6.0-6.3 region the entire grow, which scared the hell out of me and my brother, but none of my full reservoir changes had any affect at all. But, as others have mentioned on the low spectrum as well as high, they seemed to thrive pretty healthily throughout. I had a good amount of what I assume to be algae basically the entire run. It started about 3 weeks into veg; I'd see what looked like little flakes of film, amber in color, that would rush in from each of the tire valves after the pump finished firing. That lasted the whole time, and have yet to come to a conclusion. Thoughts? Toxic lines maybe? I didn't properly configure 2 of my 4 exhaust connections from the hoods, and ended up with some hot spots that resulted in a decent amount of foxtailing of the Blue Dream that I didn't notice for a little bit unfortunately. It was interesting seeing some of the kolas go into a foxtail then turn out of it and put a large nug on top of that same scrawny stem. In total, I had probably 4 or 5 fairly large leaks. All were essentially a result of my own error. The individual reservoir flooded 3 times due to a clogged line. I'm attributing this to not drilling out my valves. I don't remember off hand the exact number, think it's either 7/32 or 9/32, but my valves comfortably fit literally 1/32" smaller than what you drilled yours out to. So after struggling drilling 2 out, and hoping that tiny bit wouldn't make a difference, I just went ahead and connected them. I'm now going to properly drill them out, as well as place each bucket in a little watering reservoir incase it happens again. My other 2 leaks happened when my connection to my PVC connector blasted off and the pump was spewing water for 3 minutes each cycle. Quick fix was to just tape the only 2 exposed holes on the front of the main reservoir where the handle is attached. I noticed some Powdery Mildew on the base of most of the stems, and sprayed them with some baking soda and water once every 4-5 days and that seemed to keep it under control pretty well. As a lot of first time growers are, I was not prepared at all for the stretch into flower. Literally 2 weeks in, I physically could not stand anywhere in the room besides the small entryway where the main reservoir and control panel are. For about 7 weeks, any work that had to be done was crawling around on my hands and knees, while ducking. These 11 plants outgrew the fuckkkk out of the 10x10 room, and as much as I raped them, trimming them up good about 2 weeks into flower, there was still definitely a good amount of light deprivation and poor airflow into the middle mass of nug in the room. In total I used about 200 bamboo stakes; it started probably 4 weeks in, and by the end, multiple branches were snapping due to the weight. Not a complaint, just an inspiration to do a gorgeous Scrog net this run...
And then the bugs, ugh...Root Aphids. I first noticed them 10 days into flower. My big OG, the massive fucker that veg'd 6 weeks, seemed to be the only one badly infected. I expressed concern cause the leaves on it were almost folded in half. They were pretty clever, and didn't show themselves at all until they wreaked some solid havoc on the plant. First sight on them, there were probably 2-300 of them on the floor around the big guy. They weren't like most aphids I saw online; they were what I saw referred to as "tank beetles". So I immediately hit the whole crop with some pesticides. I wanted to go systemic, and had it been probably 1 week prior I would have, but being almost 2 weeks into flower I was really scared to try it. So I did a good amount of research and came to the conclusion of a mixture of Azamax and Spectracide. They all received 4 applications of a 1:1 mixture in their coco medium. Each application consisted of a full 3 gallon drench, followed by a spray of the top of the medium and base of the stem. Each round I'd kill what seemed to be basically all of them, but there were always a couple stragglers left behind no matter what I did. I expected that though with my research of Azamax. Each application also came with a full flush, as well as reservoir change. I never did fully get rid of the aphids, although I didn't expect to. I spent a couple hundred on the pesticides altogether and am very happy I did so just for the peace of mind and hope that I could still save my crop at that point. My last application was day 40-45, and towards the end there were some fliers in the room. The worst was at the end obviously and my best guess would be that you'd see maybe 10-15 flying up top at any given time. If I lifted the cover I made for the top of each of the plants to prevent algae, I saw about 20-30 stirring about atop the coco. Eeekk, sounds worse than it was thankfully. I really believe the pesticide concoction saved my harvest...with the severe symptoms I saw early on, and the continued pressing issue, they somehow managed to thrive pretty successfully throughout.
I'm only going to make some minor tweaks, which basically just entails rebuilding my pulse terminals to the PVC H configuration. I did a quick easy shortcut last time that consisted of several 1/4" barbed T's, which happen to be quite small, and restrict flow quite a bit. So I'm just going to increase the flow...picked up some of the Quick Connect 1/4" T's, rather than the John Guest T's. I'm excited to work with them, they're way better than my last setup.
Like I said, I really couldn't be happier. At sooo many points throughout the whole lengthy near 4 month run I even doubted seeing a successful harvest. But, as it seems all PPK's do, we triumphed. The sky is the limit from here. At this point, I'm so sold on the PPK that I can say right now, until I find a better system, if it ever even happens, I will never grow indoors in anything but. It truly has blown my mind. All my friends are pretty shocked. The numbers are prettttyyyyy silly, all things considered, in my opinion. I'm kind of upset that I didn't reach my 2 lb's/light goal, but the only reason being is seeing the potential. I had 2 of my OG's remain pretty small, and also ditched 1 early on. If those 4 OG's were Dream, that right there, even with all my issues, would have easily reached it. So like I said I'm extremelyyyy happy, and just cannot waittttt to get this round going and perfect this absolutely amazing system.
I'm moving to central California to start what shall be my lifelong herbal career next Sunday. Becoming legal the day I move there, having already received my California ID, and am thrilled. My brother and I essentially started with nothing in January, and thanks in great part to this thread and the creation of the PPK, we were able to purchase an 80 acre, southern facing property. For those that are unaware, fyi, housing prices in northern California are silly cheap. It's kind of disturbing, and I still don't get it, but I won't complain. So begins what I hope to be my own small empire with my brother, if all goes well. Cheeeeersss to all my new fellow statesmen !
Thanks again to delta9, you sir truly are a legend ! Thank you, thank you, thank you. The reason that this thread has yet to be a sticky is beyond me, but I'm sure there's a great one
I wish you all the best, and can't thank you enough for the phenomenalllllll OG. Quite possibly the best smelling herb I've ever come across...living the dream already, and it's just starting
Harvest
I've been very anxiously awaiting this post...hello fellow passive Killers. My recent harvest is finally wrapped up, and I really couldn't be much happier. This run was tough on me, stresswise; it seemed like there were so many issues that even a harvest looked optimistic at times. But all prevailed, and I'm quite happy with my yield. I'll give you a brief rundown of my issues, and what I've already improved for my Round 2...
I'll begin with the important part, the numbers. I ran 3 OG (the specific cut I haven't quite pinpointed yet) and 8 Blue Dream. I started with 4 OG, but due to it being quite finnicky I managed to lose 1 early on. The 3 of those hit 18 oz's total, with the breakdown being 10, 4, and 4. I struggled with my success rate of these clones specifically, which equates to 1 plant vegging for 6 weeks compared the the standard 4 of the others. The remaining 8 Dream yielded 94 oz's, averaging 11.75 per. A total yield of just barely over 7 lb's on the 4k Hortliux's. I really, really wanted to hit that mental barrier of 2 lb's/light, but was just shy and am very ok with it, especially due to the fact that this first run seemed to have so many potentially fatal issues.
I'll try to list all of my problems I had throughout my run in hopes that it could help someone, as well as maybe myself through feedback. Wow, where to start...I'm still kind of blown away my crop even made it to a full harvest, to be honest. My pH was never stable. It was in the 6.0-6.3 region the entire grow, which scared the hell out of me and my brother, but none of my full reservoir changes had any affect at all. But, as others have mentioned on the low spectrum as well as high, they seemed to thrive pretty healthily throughout. I had a good amount of what I assume to be algae basically the entire run. It started about 3 weeks into veg; I'd see what looked like little flakes of film, amber in color, that would rush in from each of the tire valves after the pump finished firing. That lasted the whole time, and have yet to come to a conclusion. Thoughts? Toxic lines maybe? I didn't properly configure 2 of my 4 exhaust connections from the hoods, and ended up with some hot spots that resulted in a decent amount of foxtailing of the Blue Dream that I didn't notice for a little bit unfortunately. It was interesting seeing some of the kolas go into a foxtail then turn out of it and put a large nug on top of that same scrawny stem. In total, I had probably 4 or 5 fairly large leaks. All were essentially a result of my own error. The individual reservoir flooded 3 times due to a clogged line. I'm attributing this to not drilling out my valves. I don't remember off hand the exact number, think it's either 7/32 or 9/32, but my valves comfortably fit literally 1/32" smaller than what you drilled yours out to. So after struggling drilling 2 out, and hoping that tiny bit wouldn't make a difference, I just went ahead and connected them. I'm now going to properly drill them out, as well as place each bucket in a little watering reservoir incase it happens again. My other 2 leaks happened when my connection to my PVC connector blasted off and the pump was spewing water for 3 minutes each cycle. Quick fix was to just tape the only 2 exposed holes on the front of the main reservoir where the handle is attached. I noticed some Powdery Mildew on the base of most of the stems, and sprayed them with some baking soda and water once every 4-5 days and that seemed to keep it under control pretty well. As a lot of first time growers are, I was not prepared at all for the stretch into flower. Literally 2 weeks in, I physically could not stand anywhere in the room besides the small entryway where the main reservoir and control panel are. For about 7 weeks, any work that had to be done was crawling around on my hands and knees, while ducking. These 11 plants outgrew the fuckkkk out of the 10x10 room, and as much as I raped them, trimming them up good about 2 weeks into flower, there was still definitely a good amount of light deprivation and poor airflow into the middle mass of nug in the room. In total I used about 200 bamboo stakes; it started probably 4 weeks in, and by the end, multiple branches were snapping due to the weight. Not a complaint, just an inspiration to do a gorgeous Scrog net this run...
And then the bugs, ugh...Root Aphids. I first noticed them 10 days into flower. My big OG, the massive fucker that veg'd 6 weeks, seemed to be the only one badly infected. I expressed concern cause the leaves on it were almost folded in half. They were pretty clever, and didn't show themselves at all until they wreaked some solid havoc on the plant. First sight on them, there were probably 2-300 of them on the floor around the big guy. They weren't like most aphids I saw online; they were what I saw referred to as "tank beetles". So I immediately hit the whole crop with some pesticides. I wanted to go systemic, and had it been probably 1 week prior I would have, but being almost 2 weeks into flower I was really scared to try it. So I did a good amount of research and came to the conclusion of a mixture of Azamax and Spectracide. They all received 4 applications of a 1:1 mixture in their coco medium. Each application consisted of a full 3 gallon drench, followed by a spray of the top of the medium and base of the stem. Each round I'd kill what seemed to be basically all of them, but there were always a couple stragglers left behind no matter what I did. I expected that though with my research of Azamax. Each application also came with a full flush, as well as reservoir change. I never did fully get rid of the aphids, although I didn't expect to. I spent a couple hundred on the pesticides altogether and am very happy I did so just for the peace of mind and hope that I could still save my crop at that point. My last application was day 40-45, and towards the end there were some fliers in the room. The worst was at the end obviously and my best guess would be that you'd see maybe 10-15 flying up top at any given time. If I lifted the cover I made for the top of each of the plants to prevent algae, I saw about 20-30 stirring about atop the coco. Eeekk, sounds worse than it was thankfully. I really believe the pesticide concoction saved my harvest...with the severe symptoms I saw early on, and the continued pressing issue, they somehow managed to thrive pretty successfully throughout.
I'm only going to make some minor tweaks, which basically just entails rebuilding my pulse terminals to the PVC H configuration. I did a quick easy shortcut last time that consisted of several 1/4" barbed T's, which happen to be quite small, and restrict flow quite a bit. So I'm just going to increase the flow...picked up some of the Quick Connect 1/4" T's, rather than the John Guest T's. I'm excited to work with them, they're way better than my last setup.
Like I said, I really couldn't be happier. At sooo many points throughout the whole lengthy near 4 month run I even doubted seeing a successful harvest. But, as it seems all PPK's do, we triumphed. The sky is the limit from here. At this point, I'm so sold on the PPK that I can say right now, until I find a better system, if it ever even happens, I will never grow indoors in anything but. It truly has blown my mind. All my friends are pretty shocked. The numbers are prettttyyyyy silly, all things considered, in my opinion. I'm kind of upset that I didn't reach my 2 lb's/light goal, but the only reason being is seeing the potential. I had 2 of my OG's remain pretty small, and also ditched 1 early on. If those 4 OG's were Dream, that right there, even with all my issues, would have easily reached it. So like I said I'm extremelyyyy happy, and just cannot waittttt to get this round going and perfect this absolutely amazing system.
I'm moving to central California to start what shall be my lifelong herbal career next Sunday. Becoming legal the day I move there, having already received my California ID, and am thrilled. My brother and I essentially started with nothing in January, and thanks in great part to this thread and the creation of the PPK, we were able to purchase an 80 acre, southern facing property. For those that are unaware, fyi, housing prices in northern California are silly cheap. It's kind of disturbing, and I still don't get it, but I won't complain. So begins what I hope to be my own small empire with my brother, if all goes well. Cheeeeersss to all my new fellow statesmen !
Thanks again to delta9, you sir truly are a legend ! Thank you, thank you, thank you. The reason that this thread has yet to be a sticky is beyond me, but I'm sure there's a great one
zeke99
Active member
useful pub from the USAID:
http://www.rootsofpeace.org/assets/Soil Testing Manual V6 (Feb 8).pdf
Soil testing
PERENNIAL CROP SUPPORT SERIES
JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN
Publication No. 2008-001-AFG
February 8, 2008
http://www.rootsofpeace.org/assets/Soil Testing Manual V6 (Feb 8).pdf
Soil testing
PERENNIAL CROP SUPPORT SERIES
JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN
Publication No. 2008-001-AFG
February 8, 2008
zeke99
Active member
The prices are cheap now in Norcal because there is barely any work for regular people. I mean it was bad enough before the bubble popped, but back then everyone and and I do mean everyone had access to easy credit. Times are tough now.
Places that sold for $350-$400k in 2006 are now assessed for much less and sell in 2012 for $225-$250k. The places were never worth as much as they were selling for during the bubble. That was all a gambler's fantasy.
Reminder: Haven't grown before. Not a handy guy yet. (But, I am an IT guy)
Anybody want to help me design my PPK room(s) and offer other advice? Money isn't super tight, but it wouldn't hurt me to be a bit frugal. I have locally available hortilux bulbs and it would appear folks selling used equipment (considering buying used controllers). I have built most of the PPK system now and recently wired a 30a and 20a circuit for the endeavor.
The situation is this. I currently have access to a basement with a 12'6" x 9' room with 7'8" ceilings. At a minimum I'd like to use 600w bulbs for flowering but would prefer going with 1k. What would be the best way of separating this room so that I could veg up four plants in PPKs for 3-4 weeks, in 3.5g buckets, and then either transplant them to the other side for flowering... or just change the light timers? Eight total plants, four in veg, four in flower.
Outside this room is an area roughly 12'6" x 30'. Once I get a few harvests under my belt, higher plant limits, no more beerpong parties in the basement, etc. I'll have more options opened up. In the meantime... should I exhaust heat into this "rest of the basement" area totaling ~900sqft? I intend on having a scrubber. This house is in the suburbs, two windows in the room face a fairly heavily traveled street and my neighbors driveway... rather not vent in either of those directions. Another option would be ducting to another window probably 10' away, outside this room, heat and potential smells launching into a backyard 20-25' from same neighbors house.
Should the vegging and flowering PPKs be fed from the same reservoir (one system)?
Prior to reading about the PPK system and much else for that matter I created a couple aerocloners. Will these cloners produce plants with the wrong root structures (or however you say it) for the PPK system? Should I make a mini-PPK type cloner?
Am I going towards much of a pitfall if I treat the air, heat, humidity between these subrooms the same? Ie, 50% humidity in both rooms, exhausting the total sqft of both rooms 2x per minute?
Should I just divide these rooms equally? 4.5' x 6.75' ?
Any advice to offer on controllers? I missed a craigslist deal awhile back, guy was selling a GreenAir MCC-1 with a couple relays for ~$250. I wasn't sure that could be beat. I have a (cheap) humidifier, dehumidifier, ceramic heater, muffin fan (to sit under bare bulb), and a couple oscillating fans thus far... I suppose I won't be using CO2 for awhile, but humidity, light, heat I'm thinking I can handle with the right/cheap controls, heh.
Thanks for any and all responses guys.
Edit: Reading through the thread as able. Lots of good information, which is great, but... alas... it's 250 pages long atm.
Anybody want to help me design my PPK room(s) and offer other advice? Money isn't super tight, but it wouldn't hurt me to be a bit frugal. I have locally available hortilux bulbs and it would appear folks selling used equipment (considering buying used controllers). I have built most of the PPK system now and recently wired a 30a and 20a circuit for the endeavor.
The situation is this. I currently have access to a basement with a 12'6" x 9' room with 7'8" ceilings. At a minimum I'd like to use 600w bulbs for flowering but would prefer going with 1k. What would be the best way of separating this room so that I could veg up four plants in PPKs for 3-4 weeks, in 3.5g buckets, and then either transplant them to the other side for flowering... or just change the light timers? Eight total plants, four in veg, four in flower.
Outside this room is an area roughly 12'6" x 30'. Once I get a few harvests under my belt, higher plant limits, no more beerpong parties in the basement, etc. I'll have more options opened up. In the meantime... should I exhaust heat into this "rest of the basement" area totaling ~900sqft? I intend on having a scrubber. This house is in the suburbs, two windows in the room face a fairly heavily traveled street and my neighbors driveway... rather not vent in either of those directions. Another option would be ducting to another window probably 10' away, outside this room, heat and potential smells launching into a backyard 20-25' from same neighbors house.
Should the vegging and flowering PPKs be fed from the same reservoir (one system)?
Prior to reading about the PPK system and much else for that matter I created a couple aerocloners. Will these cloners produce plants with the wrong root structures (or however you say it) for the PPK system? Should I make a mini-PPK type cloner?
Am I going towards much of a pitfall if I treat the air, heat, humidity between these subrooms the same? Ie, 50% humidity in both rooms, exhausting the total sqft of both rooms 2x per minute?
Should I just divide these rooms equally? 4.5' x 6.75' ?
Any advice to offer on controllers? I missed a craigslist deal awhile back, guy was selling a GreenAir MCC-1 with a couple relays for ~$250. I wasn't sure that could be beat. I have a (cheap) humidifier, dehumidifier, ceramic heater, muffin fan (to sit under bare bulb), and a couple oscillating fans thus far... I suppose I won't be using CO2 for awhile, but humidity, light, heat I'm thinking I can handle with the right/cheap controls, heh.
Thanks for any and all responses guys.
Edit: Reading through the thread as able. Lots of good information, which is great, but... alas... it's 250 pages long atm.
Ha. And getting longer.
I started writing a bunch of stuff in response to your questions Ghudda, but lets slow down.
What genetics are your running (aero-cloners are fine... be gentle on initial transplant to final media)? How do they perform?
How is your room framed, and which side do you access it from?
Is your current plant count 8? If so, how does your region handle clones with regard to count, etc?
Why do you want to only veg for 3.5 weeks?
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Buy backups. Many company's construction is dubious.
No... you may give up a bit of veg vigor to prevent flower room rot, but this will also be strain dependent... some strains with ample airflow will not bud rot with RH at a scary 70%, others will rot if you look at them funny. Keep in mind that VPD is a factor of RH and Temp.
Dont see the math here.
That's enough speculation. Lunch is over. Dinner is about to start. Gotta run.
Hi IF,
The room is in a corner.
12'6" north-south
9' east-west
doorway on south side, probably 2ft from east wall
There's a small closet about 25" deep (going north/south), 44" wide or so that's attached to the south wall, just next to the doorway
North and west walls are the foundation. South and East walls are some kind of flimsy wood paneling. I think what separates the east wall from the larger room outside is two wood panels installed back to back. The closet is made of the same wood paneling, one wall is foundation. Outside/Along the south wall, running the length of the house is an 8x6.
I suppose the east wall is the most likely candidate. Unfortunately I installed a number of outlets to that wall just this weekend But they can be moved easily enough, I think.
I want to use the best strain possible for a vertically lit PPK My buddy may or may not have those strains handy, going to find that out now. That'd be the most convenient for a starting source of clones.
*scratches head* My rough draft of a plan was to springboard off what others running PPKs are using and/or off of him. He's been doing this quite awhile, but, he's running horizontal and hydro-UC so his yield won't necessarily transfer over I imagine. I believe he'd stated 14lb from 16k of light (1k HPS) from 16 plants. I just don't remember which strain that was or for how long.
Veg time I'm just going by estimates what others are doing here. I'm building 4' vertical screens to hold up/tie the plants to. I'd hope for 36-40" tall plants in 3-4 weeks, no harm in going 5 or 6 to get there
We're allowed to have quite a few clones out here. 8 plants isn't my limit, just wanted to limit myself to that before I buy more buckets. I'm allowed something like 36 clones.
The room is in a corner.
12'6" north-south
9' east-west
doorway on south side, probably 2ft from east wall
There's a small closet about 25" deep (going north/south), 44" wide or so that's attached to the south wall, just next to the doorway
North and west walls are the foundation. South and East walls are some kind of flimsy wood paneling. I think what separates the east wall from the larger room outside is two wood panels installed back to back. The closet is made of the same wood paneling, one wall is foundation. Outside/Along the south wall, running the length of the house is an 8x6.
I suppose the east wall is the most likely candidate. Unfortunately I installed a number of outlets to that wall just this weekend
But they can be moved easily enough, I think.I want to use the best strain possible for a vertically lit PPK
My buddy may or may not have those strains handy, going to find that out now. That'd be the most convenient for a starting source of clones.*scratches head* My rough draft of a plan was to springboard off what others running PPKs are using and/or off of him. He's been doing this quite awhile, but, he's running horizontal and hydro-UC so his yield won't necessarily transfer over I imagine. I believe he'd stated 14lb from 16k of light (1k HPS) from 16 plants. I just don't remember which strain that was or for how long.
Veg time I'm just going by estimates what others are doing here. I'm building 4' vertical screens to hold up/tie the plants to. I'd hope for 36-40" tall plants in 3-4 weeks, no harm in going 5 or 6 to get there
We're allowed to have quite a few clones out here. 8 plants isn't my limit, just wanted to limit myself to that before I buy more buckets. I'm allowed something like 36 clones.
And ^ it would appear he has bubba and hindu kush now because they don't stretch very much (after all, he's blasting the tops). So that may not be ideal. He used to have chemdog, purple urkel, NYC Diesel, etc something like 8 strains going.
Strains is one of probably a great many things I haven't researched a great deal.
Strains is one of probably a great many things I haven't researched a great deal.
stagehand099
Member
Who has used Hydro Halo's for pulsing?
Who has used Hydro Halo's for pulsing?
Could any of yall discuss the pros and cons of using hydro halos for pulsing? I am working on my PPKs for the fall/winter and want to do big, controlled pulses through 1/2" tubing, using a digital timer. Just wondering if the halos would work well to give a large plunger effect type of pulse. Thanks.
stagehand
Who has used Hydro Halo's for pulsing?
Could any of yall discuss the pros and cons of using hydro halos for pulsing? I am working on my PPKs for the fall/winter and want to do big, controlled pulses through 1/2" tubing, using a digital timer. Just wondering if the halos would work well to give a large plunger effect type of pulse. Thanks.
stagehand
gregor_mendel
Active member
I can't speak to a larger plunger effect with respect to other ways of pulsing, having only run halos.
Mine are drilled out such that the total area of holes is equal to D9s setup.
Others here have not drilled out the holes and been very happy.
I guess I will speculate on plunger effect.
The holes on halos are pretty much perpendicular to the media surface, so there is no puddling on top. It seems to me that puddling on top would contribute to the plunger effect.
Plunger or not, my medium (coco) was full of roots at harvest.
Mine are drilled out such that the total area of holes is equal to D9s setup.
Others here have not drilled out the holes and been very happy.
I guess I will speculate on plunger effect.
The holes on halos are pretty much perpendicular to the media surface, so there is no puddling on top. It seems to me that puddling on top would contribute to the plunger effect.
Plunger or not, my medium (coco) was full of roots at harvest.
What's up guys? Long time lurker here. I'm thinking about setting up some ppks. The room is a square roughly 11 x 11, I'm thinking 4 plants in a diamond layout, 1 1000 watter in the middle, and 4 600s in a square. Later it might be expanded to 5 1ks, when the weather isn't so hot.
My question is, what do ya'll think about 10 gallon brutes in place of 5 gallon buckets? Are there any downsides to this plan? Is the standard 5 gallon setup enough for 850-1k watts per? Is there anything to be gained by the additional rooting space?
My question is, what do ya'll think about 10 gallon brutes in place of 5 gallon buckets? Are there any downsides to this plan? Is the standard 5 gallon setup enough for 850-1k watts per? Is there anything to be gained by the additional rooting space?
Why would you redesign something without even trying it out first? Just do it as outlined here.. THEN decide.
You can grow 2# plants out of a 5g bucket. Keep it simple.
