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[Hasch]

I call them gmo because the genetics were modified, changed.

Yes, you're use of the term gmo I think I understand now.

They used colchicine induced mutations to make polyploids,

Afaiu sone do, but not all of the breeders. To much generalization imo.

You can call them frankenplants,

Then almost all the fruits and vegetables we can buy (even in health food stores) would be gmo / frankenplants.
Most everything available today has been breed and crossed by humans to achieve some desired trait...

the medicinal properties have been lost.

That good sir seems like a crass generalization imo.
Who knows what traits are carried over to the offspring...

 

[H e d g e]

Yes, you're use of the term gmo I think I understand now.



Afaiu sone do, but not all of the breeders. To much generalization imo.



Then almost all the fruits and vegetables we can buy (even in health food stores) would be gmo / frankenplants.
Most everything available today has been breed and crossed by humans to achieve some desired trait...



That good sir seems like a crass generalization imo.
Who knows what traits are carried over to the offspring...

I think maybe there is a language misunderstanding.

I do not think plant hybrids are gmo.

I think that plants that are treated with colchicine to induce polyploidy are gmo because their genetics have been modified.

I also consider genetically edited plants to be gmo although sadly they are not considered to be gmo by most people and are often sold with an organic label in the supermarket.

Skunk hemp and og are all modified, therefore their descendants carry this damage.

Almost all cannabis varieties currently available are descendants of these three plants.

 

[Lester Beans]

Who "They used colchicine" did this?

I would wager 95% of cannabis breeders have never heard of Colchicine.

Certainly you can't be suggesting OG Kush was created in this form?

Skunk was a polyhybrid to begin with so finding it "pure" is subjective.

 

[H e d g e]

Who "They used colchicine" did this?

I would wager 95% of cannabis breeders have never heard of Colchicine.

Certainly you can't be suggesting OG Kush was created in this form?

Skunk was a polyhybrid to begin with so finding it "pure" is subjective.

Everything got crossed with skunk, there was a pure skunk in phylos galaxy listed as just numbers and letters but it was removed. Skunk #1 is still there but it’s not pure skunk.
Interesting skunk and hemp the chromatography looks very similar but og the difference between it and landrace is less obvious, but still significant. Possibly it was modified in a different way, edited perhaps.
Landrace chromatography looks like a healthy meadow, og looks like a lawn mower just went over it, skunk and hemp look like all the plants died in a frost and then it snowed.

 

[3rd-3yed]

What you got is more than likely Coljam
The seed I got from a distributor sold to him by Cristalin as CG72 was Coljam. I got Coljam from another source and it was the same, very different from the CG72
And the repro of CG72 by JGL has ridicoulous male/female ratios and the progeny is inbreeding depression galore. I am guessing JGL reversed some female to pollinize the strain or some shit like that
So you didnt lose anything with this. Not good for breeding

The CG72 you grew and bash so often is also a repro from Cristalin "work", so do trashtalk him instead of JGL legacy please... JGL didn't made any repro after 2011- 2012 if my memory is still working well. What you got was made way after that time period when JGL was doing the preservation of the line.

I saw Cristalin pictures and his last "repro" was only made with a handful of plants (around 5), I guess previous made by him were also low numbers ; that's why you get inbreeding depression from them...

 

[Legalcdn]

I have read this thread and thanks goes out to all the passionate growers sharing knowledge to be passed down.

I grew up smoking a lot of columbian, panama, and Mexican weed being on the west coast of Canada.

If anyone does a panama repro, please please PM me. The 9 week version does not interest me at all. I am not and never will be a person who profits from seeds.
May peace and happiness regain control in this strange time we are living in.

Happy new year.