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deepwaterdude

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Pam clone harvest at 10 weeks flower

Pam clone harvest at 10 weeks flower

That "Hulk" panama is nuts! Interested to see how she goes.

Icon, beautiful flowering so far, really nice plant.

The Pam in DWC had root aphids (didn't know about these) from about week 4 flower, killing a huge yield, but to the plant's credit, she still produced super sticky, fat-calyxed buds. Looks a bit like the pheno Zanddar ended up choosing.
 

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deepwaterdude

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Holy Crap! That is a nice harvest indeed.
Must be a chore to have to smoke them all

:respect:

:laughing:

Not at ALL looking forward to the grind;) i'm rolling up some of her maw with da scissor hash from yesterday. I miss charas. I always got the best indian charas in Paris, never in India. Same with Colombia and some of its natural resources.

As to the yield, I've learned big plants=big buds, and that was her saving grace. As you've been saying, veg in dwc is mad fast, so easy to grow a beast in shorter time than in soil. Shame about the bugs. Coulda been nuts.
 
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NotACrim

hi does the resent f10's all contain panama goddess? as I have stock from round 2012 and wondering if I missed the best of the line.
cheers
mick
 

deepwaterdude

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I'm sure rolandomota's right about being SURE to get a goddess pheno, but you can definitely get one by accident also;) like i did from reg beans bought in 2014-2015. That is still the most unbelievable lemon sugar soda I've ever smelled. I suck at most aspects of production, besides veg, and this is the first time I've had a bud cure to an amazing smell like this.

That said, of three different pam females I got from reg seed I got the green lemon goddess described above, a dark, magenta pistiled, large calyxed girl with great vigor and a favorite high, but absolutely no smell but earth, and lastly the above girl, who has the large calyxes, more wide-leaved, this last is the most dank of the three, with a heavier stone, much obvious thc. There's lemon in this one, but more of a red fruity/berry smell. It's only been down a week or so and is not yet dry enough for cure.

I'd love to do a breeder's pack of this or that, but if you're on a budget, you're still going to find a great girl or three. And hey, one man's goddess is another's barmaid;)
 

fabsema

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There is no Panama Haze thread so i post my two here. I hope it is ok.

 

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Lammy

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Description of the mother parental plants:

- Green/purple Panama F10 elite: It's the best Panama mother we keep in our mother room, found in our last selections with this strain. It's a very vigorous, strong and branched pheno, with very high resin production, dense compact flowers and refined lemony incensey aromas of american sativa. The effect is very powerful, clean, psychedelic, and stimulant. Flowering time is around 11-12 weeks, producing a high yield.

- Green Panama F8: Older green pheno that is closer to the first green expressions of this hybrid that had the cleaner and more energetic effects. This mother is a great example of this green pheno, showing huge vigour and yield. Its colas are huge, although not so dense or resinous like F10 elite mother. The aromas are woody, spicy and incensey. Flowering time of 12-13 weeks.

- Panama Red F6 S1: S1 of an excellent F6 Panama red parental plant that we have widely used in the first stages of the breeding of this strain. We selected a S1 coming from this F6 red line to stabilize this spectacular colorful pheno that shows beautiful reddish and pinkish pistils (especially outdoors). This S1 has a more moderate vigour and yield. The effect is denser, more narcotic and physical. Flowering time of 11 weeks.

- Panama Red F8: Outstanding pinkish/reddish mother that produces very high resin content, compact rounded flowers and darker incensey aromas. The effect is very powerful, dense, narcotic and physical. Flowering time of 11 weeks.

Panama Breeders Pack Feminized contains 3 feminized lines (5 feminized seeds/ per line) :

- Lemony/incensey: F10 lemony/incesey panamas x Panama Goddess reversed.

- Green: Green Panama F8 x Panama Goddess reversed.

- Red/Pink: Panama Red F6 S1 and Panama Red F8 x Panama Goddess reversed.

A few questions:
(1) is "Green/purple Panama F10 elite" the panama goddess? Or is the Panama goddess not listed in the mother plant section?

(2) the reversed Panama goddess is used for the three different phenotypes, is it guaranteed that the seeds of each line would all be as labeled or they're just highly likely to represent that phenotype?

(3) does the current description describe the 'panama red/pink fem' from my order from June, 2016?

I'm thinking of ordering:
Panama Breeders Pack Standard contains 3 standard lines (10 standard seeds/ per line) :

- Lemony incensey: Panama Goddess x Panama F8-F9 males.

- Green: Green Panama F8 x Panama F8-F9 males.

- Red/Pink: Panama Red F6 S1 and Panama Red F8 x Panama F8-F9 males.

(4) the Lemony incensey pack would be described by the 'Green/purple Panama F10 elite' description?

(5) the effects for the Panama Red would be similar to what we think of as indicas but perhaps stronger and somewhat different?

(6) the flowering time is listed as low as 9 weeks. I assume that's fairly unlikely. what are the chances of getting one that goes 10 weeks indoor as a clone?(from the lemon/incensey std, pink/red std or pink/red fem from 2016)

Thank you for your time
 

dubi

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panama , 3 months cured, red white phenotype...i think. has an incense haze smell with an earthy licorice light taste. in some way after taste is stronger and more persistent than taste and both are great. the high is strong, intense and long lasting. start immediately with a classic warm feeling in the eyes, after 15 min start to be strong in the head with a little bit of visual focus effect without paranoia. you can feel electric feelings but it's not like the craziest hurry up weed and after the peak of high you feel more relaxed but with same intense feeling for two or three hours. this happen with only one joint if you smoke more that stuff can be really strong for commercial weed smokers.

You really got the vibe of the strain akirabull ;) Thanks for such good and accurate feedback!
 

dubi

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Hello all!

I was recently in Amsterdam where i was able to pickup some "Panama"
The Buds where decent and "Dutch grown" like we call, amazing smell & high experience!
Back at home i wanted to inform myself about this and i've seen that both ACE & Cannabiogen selling those Strains as Seeds as Panama & Panama Haze.

As i said before the Buds where really dense and hard, could someone tell me which Version i smoked?

Hi dr.disrespect,

We don't collaborate with any dutch coffee shop or seedbank so i guess this question should be addressed to the coffee shop where you bought the weed. Anyway, i'm glad you enjoyed the smoke, hope you had a nice time in Adam.
 

dubi

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Hello to everyone. First of all it is of my understanding that we are talking about the green phenotype here.
i've noticed great similarity between two herbs' aromas, panama and ironwort. i never expected to see such terpene density as i did in this one and only cannabis plant i'm showing you, which was grown 100% organically under the hot Greek sun.
i'm so impressed with this herb for 3 main reasons.
the aroma bouquet while curing is getting stronger, as are it's lemon and frankincense flavors and aromas.
believe me this herb has left many cannabis connoisseurs mumbling in awe for it's unique frankincense and ironwort bouquet and it's smooth and pleasurable smoke.
the second one is the high. trully psychedelic, intense, long lasting, but not as clear-daytime sativa as described for the green pheno. it has a lot more of the narcotic-trippy effect after the second or third joint. it sounds like the perfect combination of charachteristics from the two phenotypes, and it trully seems like it happened.
the third reason i fell in love with this plant is its cultivation as a whole and it's incredible tolerance to all kinds of insects. she finished about November 15th outdoors with no problems whatsoever. my personal opinion is that what makes this plant so important and unforgettable is the alpha-pinene terpene, to which i believe it owes it's frankincense and ironwort aroma and it's extraordinary insect repellent qualities. i also assume that the local climate in combination with organic growing helped to express the finest quality of these amazing genetics. congratulations Dubi for this miracle!
There is no reason for me not to try this strain again.
geia mas :smoke out:

Thanks delicorganic :)

It's a pleasure to see and read your feedback! I'm glad you and your close circle have had such positive experience with Panama :yes: You really pointed out some of the best traits of the strain.
 

dubi

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My 3ft Panama feminized seed 6 weeks flower on 11/13 in a 3 gallon pot of soil i just put her into a 5 gallon, smells just like pinesol but starting to smell like lemons.
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Hi icon,

Really beautiful and healthy Panama you have there! :yes:
Wish the resin production, terpene density and yield are exploding now at this stage of flowering. Thanks for share it!
 

dubi

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Hey Dubi. Would you consider trying to isolate the purple phenotype again? I'm looking for some pungent smelling sativa and they're difficult to find. I'm hoping you have a suggestion of where to look.

Hi Gerardbutler79,

The purple Panama pheno is really rare, and it would be difficult to find a good one and release an stabilized version of it. Hopefully it can be done in the future, but not in short term, i already worked a lot with Panama (with big populations and many different lines at different breeding stages) in 2013, when the strain was greatly improved, as recent results show off.

Panama is already an amazing and pungent sativa, you don't need to look far, every pheno really worths.
 

dubi

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That "Hulk" panama is nuts! Interested to see how she goes.

Icon, beautiful flowering so far, really nice plant.

The Pam in DWC had root aphids (didn't know about these) from about week 4 flower, killing a huge yield, but to the plant's credit, she still produced super sticky, fat-calyxed buds. Looks a bit like the pheno Zanddar ended up choosing.

Hi deepwaterdude,

Congrats on the harvest! :) I'm glad she produced a good outcome and yield despite the aphids in the roots. Enjoy her!
 

dubi

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hi does the resent f10's all contain panama goddess? as I have stock from round 2012 and wondering if I missed the best of the line.
cheers
mick

Hi NotACrim,

All the current Panana fem stock was produced by reversing Panama Goddess F10, while the standard/regular Panama releases were produced using many other different females (Panama Goddess included, but not only her).

As i commented in previous posts, Panama has been greatly improved since 2013, so i would recommend you to get recent fem releases of the strain in order to get the closer Panamas to Panama Goddess parental plant, although i'm sure you will find great plants in your older pack and it's worth to plant and explore it.

Best wishes!
 

dubi

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Hi fabsema,

You are more than welcome to post your Panama Haze here :)
We are in lack of more pics and feedback about this strain, so your input is grealy appreciated. Lovely huge sativa flowers of great flower/leaf ratio! Looks awesome, congrats! :yes:

Please, let us know about her aromas, taste, effect and potency after a bit of curing. Thanks!
 
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