Here she is at maybe 5 or 6 weeks. I didn't grow her very well, but she gets fat and purple, that's for sure. The cutting I took for a mom rooted fine, but the shoots all sort of died off at the node, so no real place for the new growth to form. Still keeping her alive in hopes I get a decent branch for another cutting. But just in case, popped the rest of my PCK fems to see what I come up with. She's a great plant to keep around, that's for sure. Will probably reverse one of the girls and make some seeds for a rainy day.
Congrats on your PCK harvest Theorganicguy 
Nice looking black flowers. Very few hash plant indica strains can finish so up north like PCK does without get rotten due to rains and moisture.
Nice looking black flowers. Very few hash plant indica strains can finish so up north like PCK does without get rotten due to rains and moisture.
Hi kamyo,
I appreciate your efforts on exploring both: pure PCK and your own PCK hybrids
As i guess you have experienced, PCK has many qualities but potency is moderate in pure form, although her hybrids can be quite strong, especially when PCK is outcrossed with powerful and highly worked sativa strains like Panama or Malawi.
Anyway, pure PCK is an amazing breeding tool as it has been demonstrated in countless PCK hybrids produced up to date by us or by others. All the best with upcoming selections!
I appreciate your efforts on exploring both: pure PCK and your own PCK hybrids
As i guess you have experienced, PCK has many qualities but potency is moderate in pure form, although her hybrids can be quite strong, especially when PCK is outcrossed with powerful and highly worked sativa strains like Panama or Malawi. Anyway, pure PCK is an amazing breeding tool as it has been demonstrated in countless PCK hybrids produced up to date by us or by others. All the best with upcoming selections!
Hi hush,
Most pure PCK phenos (green and purple) have a very columnar growth and produce a low/moderate yield, so it's not the most suitable strain in pure form for good yielding SCROG indoor grows.
Pure PCK expressions more related in growth to our purple PCK 2002 mother (like the one from Theorganicguy) may produce better branching and longer node spacing and would work ok, but for SCROGs it's much better to grow sativa x PCK hybrids like Malawi x PCK, this F1 is perfect for that and has all the PCK qualities, but much better potency, higher yields and more complex terpene profiles and effects.
Most pure PCK phenos (green and purple) have a very columnar growth and produce a low/moderate yield, so it's not the most suitable strain in pure form for good yielding SCROG indoor grows.
Pure PCK expressions more related in growth to our purple PCK 2002 mother (like the one from Theorganicguy) may produce better branching and longer node spacing and would work ok, but for SCROGs it's much better to grow sativa x PCK hybrids like Malawi x PCK, this F1 is perfect for that and has all the PCK qualities, but much better potency, higher yields and more complex terpene profiles and effects.
Thanks for keeping us updated with your final results goldmund
Glad your purple PCK pheno performed well at your latitude and climate, finishing with barely no botrytis. Wish you are enjoying with your harvest!
Glad your purple PCK pheno performed well at your latitude and climate, finishing with barely no botrytis. Wish you are enjoying with your harvest!
Wow friend!
Not sure whether it's the expression or your good cares, but your indoor purple PCK female really shines in resins
Lovely individual, makes me want to breed with her!
Not sure whether it's the expression or your good cares, but your indoor purple PCK female really shines in resins
Lovely individual, makes me want to breed with her!
Hi kamyo,
I appreciate your efforts on exploring both: pure PCK and your own PCK hybrids
Anyway, pure PCK is an amazing breeding tool as it has been demonstrated in countless PCK hybrids produced up to date by us or by others. All the best with upcoming selections!
Thanks for the kind words, dubi. She's definitely a special plant. Sadly, the fat purple cutting and reveg didn't work out, but I have another PCK mom that I think will be just fine. She's about 7-10 days in 12/12 and should start flowering soon. Never had a PCK plant I didn't love.
Sorry, not entirely on topic, but thought I'd share the cross. Not pure PCK, and certainly not purple (yet), but here's a couple of the PCK/PanamaDC (pheno #13) about 5.5 weeks into 12/12. Not much pck comes through in this cross, but I suppose that isn't a surprise when you combine 3 very stable and worked lines. Something has to give. Looks like Panama really comes through, but PCK keeps the size and amount of leaf down a bit. It also probably helps with the color that some buds get later in flower. Not crazy colors, but it's there; could also be DC helping with that. The effect is good. Taken a week or two early, it feels like Adderall, followed by a sort of drunk feeling (lack of coordination), followed by a nice relaxing effect.
This girl is pregnant on lower branches with F2 seeds. I suspect that I will run into some really interesting phenos when I grow those out. Will be particularly looking for colorful individuals more on the PCK/DC side. The dad had heavy whorled phyllotaxy starting at the at the 4th node - 4 fans per node, although it doesn't seem to carry through on the shoots.
Will likely cross back to my PCK mom at some point. Also have some Deep Chunk coming in from KOS. That should be fun to mix with the PCK.
This girl is pregnant on lower branches with F2 seeds. I suspect that I will run into some really interesting phenos when I grow those out. Will be particularly looking for colorful individuals more on the PCK/DC side. The dad had heavy whorled phyllotaxy starting at the at the 4th node - 4 fans per node, although it doesn't seem to carry through on the shoots.
Will likely cross back to my PCK mom at some point. Also have some Deep Chunk coming in from KOS. That should be fun to mix with the PCK.
(PCK/Purple Passion F2) x F-13, just a seed I sprouted because it was opening at the time I was selecting the matured seeds for storing.
The female used was just a "commun" pink Pakistan Chitral crossed with a Purple Passion #7 F2. Non of the parents are selected cuts that would be used for hybridation purposes. Let's call it fait maison random crosses.
Just 25% PCK. In a blind tasting you coud find the vintage, varietal and appellation.
I see more and more new strains been sold using PCK in a way or another. The very least they could do is been transparent with the genetics origin...
(PCK/PP) x F13
Get only originals
Ras.
The female used was just a "commun" pink Pakistan Chitral crossed with a Purple Passion #7 F2. Non of the parents are selected cuts that would be used for hybridation purposes. Let's call it fait maison random crosses.
Just 25% PCK. In a blind tasting you coud find the vintage, varietal and appellation.
I see more and more new strains been sold using PCK in a way or another. The very least they could do is been transparent with the genetics origin...
(PCK/PP) x F13
Get only originals
Ras.
I've noticed this too, and suspected that it was the case for quite a while. It's obviously not the only thing that breeds color nowadays, but it does it better than most. As special as she is, I never understood why people don't talk about her more, especially as a parent in a cross. Oh well, more for us, I guess.
Really beautiful Ras,
PCK traits and colors are unmistakable in that hybrid despite being only 25 % PCK.
I always wondered how a hybrid between PCK and DJ Short lines would perform.
Certainly they will be interesting regarding colors, resins, terpenes, flowering times and mold resistance, but probably too much indica in the mix to produce more desirable flower/leaf ratios and improved flower structures. In my experience, PCK hybrids perform much better regarding flower structures when PCK is crossed with sativas, Malawi x PCK is a good example of this.
And you are right, it is so obvious that PCK is being widely used in Europe and North America to produce colorful hybrids. I could make a long list naming them but i prefer to keep it for myself. That's fine, what it is annoying is most of them don't want to recognize they are using PCK in their breeding, and instead of that they use new fancy names to hide the real genetic background, not even naming PCK in the strain descriptions.
PCK traits and colors are unmistakable in that hybrid despite being only 25 % PCK.
I always wondered how a hybrid between PCK and DJ Short lines would perform.
Certainly they will be interesting regarding colors, resins, terpenes, flowering times and mold resistance, but probably too much indica in the mix to produce more desirable flower/leaf ratios and improved flower structures. In my experience, PCK hybrids perform much better regarding flower structures when PCK is crossed with sativas, Malawi x PCK is a good example of this.
And you are right, it is so obvious that PCK is being widely used in Europe and North America to produce colorful hybrids. I could make a long list naming them but i prefer to keep it for myself. That's fine, what it is annoying is most of them don't want to recognize they are using PCK in their breeding, and instead of that they use new fancy names to hide the real genetic background, not even naming PCK in the strain descriptions.
I have a gut feeling that we'll see a resurgence of (interest in) more landrace/inbred/pure varieties soon. I think we can only milk another couple years of crossing everything with their cousins before it all becomes too homogeneous and boring. Strange that these "exotics" are ubiquitous; kind of contradictory, I think. In that regard, Ace is in a fantastic spot, and I'm sure people will flock to (and recognize) PCK.
That's what I'm betting on, at least. Also, just threw down 5 PCK reg seeds. Going to give them a few weeks in veg, then throw them into flower.
That's what I'm betting on, at least. Also, just threw down 5 PCK reg seeds. Going to give them a few weeks in veg, then throw them into flower.
Hi kamyo,
To be honest and to give credit where it's due, i consider the latest Kush breeding in North America as the maximum refinement of indoor hashplant indicas that mankind has ever produced, but i have the feeling that the peak of this refinement of remixes within the Cookies/OG Kush/Diesel genepool is being reached, and i concur with you that radically different genetics will need to get introduced in order to create something really new and interesting, and for that landraces are totally relevant, especially to find new chemotypes with rarer/less frequent cannabinoids (since most of the western marijuana breeding has been strongly selected towards high THC/low CBD chemotypes), and also to find new terpenes and terpene profiles.
To be honest and to give credit where it's due, i consider the latest Kush breeding in North America as the maximum refinement of indoor hashplant indicas that mankind has ever produced, but i have the feeling that the peak of this refinement of remixes within the Cookies/OG Kush/Diesel genepool is being reached, and i concur with you that radically different genetics will need to get introduced in order to create something really new and interesting, and for that landraces are totally relevant, especially to find new chemotypes with rarer/less frequent cannabinoids (since most of the western marijuana breeding has been strongly selected towards high THC/low CBD chemotypes), and also to find new terpenes and terpene profiles.
New Pakistan Chitral Kush cannabinoid and terpene analyses
New Pakistan Chitral Kush cannabinoid and terpene analyses
Back on PCK topic,
We have recently received new interesting cannabinoid and terpene results from Canada performed over the offspring from our PCK regular release, arising new interesting results, much higher THC content (15-17,3 %) and very high geraniol content.
I attach the results.
THC: 15-18 %
CBD: 0.07 %
CBG: 0.16 %
It contains the following monoterpenes: very high geraniol content, followed by moderate amounts of terpinolene, and small amounts of limonene, beta pinene, terpinene, beta myrcene, alpha pinene, p cymene, eucalyptol, carene, cis ocimene and camphene.
Sesquiterpenes: very high alpha humulene content, and moderate amounts of beta caryophyllene and nerolidol.
The strain descriptions on our website have been updated, also the info posted on the 'ACE Seeds' strains - cannabinoid and terpene analysis' thread regarding PCK:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7979764&postcount=25
Thank you very much to Cameron for sharing them
New Pakistan Chitral Kush cannabinoid and terpene analyses
Back on PCK topic,
We have recently received new interesting cannabinoid and terpene results from Canada performed over the offspring from our PCK regular release, arising new interesting results, much higher THC content (15-17,3 %) and very high geraniol content.
I attach the results.
THC: 15-18 %
CBD: 0.07 %
CBG: 0.16 %
It contains the following monoterpenes: very high geraniol content, followed by moderate amounts of terpinolene, and small amounts of limonene, beta pinene, terpinene, beta myrcene, alpha pinene, p cymene, eucalyptol, carene, cis ocimene and camphene.
Sesquiterpenes: very high alpha humulene content, and moderate amounts of beta caryophyllene and nerolidol.
The strain descriptions on our website have been updated, also the info posted on the 'ACE Seeds' strains - cannabinoid and terpene analysis' thread regarding PCK:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7979764&postcount=25
Thank you very much to Cameron for sharing them
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Cool deal with pck x dj short I got a bunch of violeta and Malawi x pck crossed to Newberry male all mom's were the purple pheno also a few malawi pck crossed to golden tiger I got a few going right now but no labels lol doh! ( Homer simpson)
Pakistan Chitral Kush is unique, and the serious work with this line will continue.
Preservation is the goal, this is an old batch I kept for nearly a decade, still many of these properly stored and safe. Some great phenos are showing as well as the typicaPakistan Chitral Kush traits.
Ras.
Preservation is the goal, this is an old batch I kept for nearly a decade, still many of these properly stored and safe. Some great phenos are showing as well as the typicaPakistan Chitral Kush traits.
Ras.
Thank you CARCHOFA, I've been working with Kaiki's Pakistan Chitral Kush for almost 15 years now. We sprouted many seeds, I got many different clones from Spanish fellows and great French growers (Cristallin, Breizou) my goal is keep the line openned and fresh, purples, blacks, greens and pinks all together.
This line has inspired me and given lots of love and great surprises. It is one of the best genuine expressions of Pakistan plants I have encountered (and we grew quite a few PTK from Tom Hill and some X-18) has been said thousands of times is one of the best breeding tools around to shorten flowering and improve terpenes in it's natural pure form, plus adding ofcourse the purple tones.
Ras.
This line has inspired me and given lots of love and great surprises. It is one of the best genuine expressions of Pakistan plants I have encountered (and we grew quite a few PTK from Tom Hill and some X-18) has been said thousands of times is one of the best breeding tools around to shorten flowering and improve terpenes in it's natural pure form, plus adding ofcourse the purple tones.
Ras.
That red male is astonishing Ras Pablo!
I know how much you cherish PCK after working with her for 15 years ... feels like it was yesterday when we met for the first time
Best wishes on the new selections of the strain and thanks for widen up the PCK family by germinating those old seeds from different parental plants
I know how much you cherish PCK after working with her for 15 years ... feels like it was yesterday when we met for the first time
Best wishes on the new selections of the strain and thanks for widen up the PCK family by germinating those old seeds from different parental plants
That red male is astonishing Ras Pablo!
I know how much you cherish PCK after working with her for 15 years ... feels like it was yesterday when we met for the first time
Best wishes on the new selections of the strain and thanks for widen up the PCK family by germinating those old seeds from different parental plants
I still remember bro! Thai 79, VB, Orient Express, those long nights of Panama until 4 am and then going back home riding my bike holy sh*t hehe.
Ras.
