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JimMuscles

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Thanks for your feedback JimMuscles :tiphat:
Not sure why, but cannot see your picture.

No problema! Thanks for creating the strains lol.

Thats a shame you cant see the picture! It seems to be working fine to me. But that was the first pic I have ever posted on icmag. Can anyone else see it?

I have a Panama fem coming down soon. Same grow parameters, with an even bigger cup! Though fluffier.
 

kamyo

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No problema! Thanks for creating the strains lol.

Thats a shame you cant see the picture! It seems to be working fine to me. But that was the first pic I have ever posted on icmag. Can anyone else see it?

I have a Panama fem coming down soon. Same grow parameters, with an even bigger cup! Though fluffier.

Jim,

You could try making sure the album is public. When you're viewing your album, click "edit album." On that page, you can make the album public. Not sure if it's the issue, but might be worth a look.
 

dubi

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Hi Theorganicguy,

PCK is a traditional hashplant strain and therefore she is very suitable for hash production.

The differences between PCK's green vs purple phenos are considerable and well explained and shown in the description of the strain and in the growing experiences of several growers posting in this thread. Green phenos are better yielding, more resinous and powerful, and produce much lesser % of variegated plants, while the colorful phenos can produce plants with every color one could imagine, of milder effects, with a much more berry terpene profile, higher % of variegated plants and overall plants with better mold and drought resistance.

I never recommend to make selections at seedling stage, especially if you are not very familiarized with a line. My experience growing many cannabis lines tells me you can only start to identify the most desirable phenos/parental plants of a line in mid flowering when the resins and terpenes are starting to develop more evidently, and of course when the plants are correctly finished and their smoke is evaluated after proper drying and curing process.

Thanks for the feedback and infos, Solar :) I really enjoy processing buds into hash and I'm always happy to find a suitable strain for dry sift. What differences did you find between the green and the purple pheno? Because my apparently green pheno seems to be much more aromatic then the purple one. They are different as night and day!

That's a really good question.

Although we use mainly colorful PCK parental plants to produce our pure PCK releases and therefore they produce a high prevalence of colorful phenos, pure PCK still has moderate genetic variability, this means the line has not been inbred enough towards one or other pheno (regarding pigmentation traits) to make the line produce only one type of color. The selfing (S1) of purple PCK 2002 parental plant produced colorful and green offspring almost with the same frequency. It's a proof of what i'm saying when you are working with PCK in pure form.

But if you are doing PCK outcrosses is a different thing.
Based on my experience and the experience of many growers, when you cross a colorful PCK with any other strain, the colors are usually very dominant in the outcrosses. And the green PCK outcrosses also produces mainly green offspring like it was the case of the green PCK x Panama very limited release we produced a few years ago.

Not sure whether my reply was helpful or added more doubts, but this is how it is :)

A little question for whoever used the green pheno for breeding: Does the offsprings of the green pheno inherits some purple pheno characteristics as well or do they behave more like the father?
 

kamyo

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I've noticed the smell thing with my green one versus the pink (although still pretty green) one. The green has a sweet/sour smell with a slight "weed" smell if that makes sense. Like lemon candy, while the other one is a more muted dark berry smell.
 

JimMuscles

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Jim,

You could try making sure the album is public. When you're viewing your album, click "edit album." On that page, you can make the album public. Not sure if it's the issue, but might be worth a look.

Yup it was on private. Thanks for the tip! Can you see it now?
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kamyo

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Here's my girl at almost 7 weeks. Probably 2 weeks max left. I'm guessing around 60 days is when I'll take her. The younger one (not pictured) will go longer. Considering 10 weeks just to see what happens. She looks more sativa-ish in bud structure (more foxtailing) than this one.

Started the flush today

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Theorganicguy

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Hi Theorganicguy,

Based on my experience and the experience of many growers, when you cross a colorful PCK with any other strain, the colors are usually very dominant in the outcrosses. And the green PCK outcrosses also produces mainly green offspring like it was the case of the green PCK x Panama very limited release we produced a few years ago.

Thanks for chiming in, Dubi. Your help is indeed valuable and much appreciated :) I was considering the idea of working with different lines in order to value the different offsprings and test them for important characteristics: mold and cold resistance, flowering onset, cannabinoid content et-cetera. Now I'm definitely going to use both my plants to breed. You almost won't believe it but color is the only feature of PCK that I'm not looking forward to in my hybrids ahahaha

You have some really snowy peaks going on, Kamyio!

Here's my humble try at plant porn:

Green pheno
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Can I top it already or do you guys think is still too early?

Purple pheno:
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SolarLogos

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Thanks for chiming in, Dubi. Your help is indeed valuable and much appreciated :) I was considering the idea of working with different lines in order to value the different offsprings and test them for important characteristics: mold and cold resistance, flowering onset, cannabinoid content et-cetera. Now I'm definitely going to use both my plants to breed. You almost won't believe it but color is the only feature of PCK that I'm not looking forward to in my hybrids ahahaha

You have some really snowy peaks going on, Kamyio!

Here's my humble try at plant porn:

Green pheno
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Can I top it already or do you guys think is still too early?

Purple pheno:
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Great plants, you got the purple and the green pheno. I would top them all. I prefer to top my Indica's that size unless I'm taking the top for a clone. All of them have good branching structure and symmetry, no mutants, runts, or difficult branching PCK it seems. I had one that grew straight up, even after pinching. Every time I pinched, only one branch would grow straight up, taking over for the main stem. I had a runt and a mutant. Are those fem seeds? I think you'll be happy with both pheno's. The purple, if you get the dark berry flavor, makes mellow, but very tasty hash.
I apologize I did not see your question earlier about the purple/green pheno's. Thank you Dubi for answering that for me.
I'll tag along if you don't mind:biggrin:
Peace, God bless
 

kamyo

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Here's the latest of mine.
First up is the one a little behind the other. 12/12 from seed, about 12-14" tall, single stem. Lighting in the room is one of those smart led bulbs and it's pretty warm light, so hard to get a decent shot without flash. Should show more color once the calyxes start popping up more & more. Leaves are green, but buds really want to show color. Small calyxes, compared to the other.
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And this one a couple days ago. Today marks 8 weeks exactly.
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Theorganicguy

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Great plants, you got the purple and the green pheno. I would top them all. I prefer to top my Indica's that size unless I'm taking the top for a clone. All of them have good branching structure and symmetry, no mutants, runts, or difficult branching PCK it seems. I had one that grew straight up, even after pinching. Every time I pinched, only one branch would grow straight up, taking over for the main stem. I had a runt and a mutant. Are those fem seeds? I think you'll be happy with both pheno's. The purple, if you get the dark berry flavor, makes mellow, but very tasty hash.
I apologize I did not see your question earlier about the purple/green pheno's. Thank you Dubi for answering that for me.
I'll tag along if you don't mind:biggrin:
Peace, God bless

Thanks for the good energy Solarlogos :) You are welcome to follow the developments. I hope I can give these plants justice.

Glamorous plants, Kamyo. I especially like the first one with kind of a sativish look to it. Good luck with the remaining weeks!


The green, vigorous pheno was moved in the final 10L pot. Soil is a mixture of fresh stinging nettles, old trim that was sifted and AVB.
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The purple pheno is in a 5L pot and still recovering from the transplant.

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Mountainkush

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Nice plants guys
I topped this one a while back and took a couple cuts. Branched out nicely and now just waiting for it gain some size. Might try making some hash with this one.

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Starting to get some purple on the stems
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dubi

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Really nice outcome kamyo bravo! :)

Those more sativa pink/purple PCK phenos coming from purple PCK 2002 parental plant, with better leaf ratio, smaller calyxes, slightly foxtailed flower structure and bubblegum strawberry/blackberry terpenes are my favorite phenos among colorful PCK expressions.

Hashplant indicas like PCK prefer at least 4 weeks of veg from seed prior to flowering stage to have enough time to produce a decent structure and a good final yield.

Here's the latest of mine.
First up is the one a little behind the other. 12/12 from seed, about 12-14" tall, single stem. Lighting in the room is one of those smart led bulbs and it's pretty warm light, so hard to get a decent shot without flash. Should show more color once the calyxes start popping up more & more. Leaves are green, but buds really want to show color. Small calyxes, compared to the other.
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And this one a couple days ago. Today marks 8 weeks exactly.
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dubi

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Hi Theorganicguy,

Glad my reply was helpful. :)

I would recommend you wait a bit until your purple PCK seedling reaches sexual maturity before topping her.

Thanks for chiming in, Dubi. Your help is indeed valuable and much appreciated :)
Can I top it already or do you guys think is still too early?

Purple pheno:
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kamyo

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Really nice outcome kamyo bravo! :)

Those more sativa pink/purple PCK phenos coming from purple PCK 2002 parental plant, with better leaf ratio, smaller calyxes, slightly foxtailed flower structure and bubblegum strawberry/blackberry terpenes are my favorite phenos among colorful PCK expressions.

Hashplant indicas like PCK prefer at least 4 weeks of veg from seed prior to flowering stage to have enough time to produce a decent structure and a good final yield.

That describes her perfectly. I definitely wasn't expecting much going into 12/12 considering it wouldn't have the vigor of some hybrids. Should have a mother cab setup in time to reveg her. Hopefully I'll be able to do that. This would be a very good plant to have around.

Only downside to this one (aside from no veg) is that I'm already flushing her. All the plants drink out of the same bucket of GH nutes, and I'm flushing her sister, so she gets flushed about 2 weeks too early. Doubt the micro herd exist in that peat/ewc anymore, so she isn't being fed very well right now.
 

kamyo

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Cut the oldest one down a couple days ago. Could have gone longer, up to a week, but I think she'll be just fine. Still plan on taking the pink-ish pheno to full maturity and maybe a little past. Will manicure this one some more once she dries a bit

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kamyo

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Here's the younger PCK around 7 weeks from showing pistils. Again, 12/12 from seed so actual flowering time is hard to pinpoint. As I expected, as the calyxes push out more, the color is showing up a bit. Once she really blooms, should have good color. Also just replaced my Amazon special Viparspectra LED with a qb288 (not HLG - probably Chinese). The blurples certainly aren't useless, but *if* you're able to, the upgrade is worth it.

At least 2 more weeks for this one. Considering she's had only water for close to 2 weeks, perhaps the micro herd exists after all. Leafs aren't looking great, but not showing a ton of deficiencies, so that's good. Going to let her go another 2 unless she's just too ripe.

God, I hope I can reveg her. She'll make a good mom for sure. A colorful PCK is basically a license to breed color into your crosses. The green pheno was probably more frosty (and is *very* effective and relaxing), but let's be honest - people grow PCK for color. She doesn't disappoint, and this isn't even as colorful as she gets.
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Beautiful buddage Kamyo. Inspiring stuff!

I’m gonna have to give this strain a go at some point. Are you getting the sweet berry terps?
 

kamyo

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Beautiful buddage Kamyo. Inspiring stuff!

I’m gonna have to give this strain a go at some point. Are you getting the sweet berry terps?

Yes, definitely. The green pheno was much more sweet/sour. This is much more fruit/berry with a hint of something else - maybe rotten fruit?

It reminds me of some weed I had in Austin, Texas a little over 15 years ago.
 

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