Pain Management thread

[armedoldhippy]

another bit i forgot...article today about cannabis mentioned that CBN in combination (not alone) with THC was effective as a pain relief from rheumatoid arthritis, as well as being a sleep aid. also looked to be effective on glaucoma, and is a possible treatment for ALS, or Lou Gehrigs disease. science marches on, whether you believe in it or not.

 

[Boo]

I tried those CBN gummy‘s, and I had to take 250 mg and still couldn’t feel anything. I’ve got multiple pain issues and we’re not talking about a bump on the toe. I’ve got a 50 staples scar in my belly and it feels like an electric fence has been lit up on certain parts of that scar all the time, my spine is junk so I keep on pushing on … I want to outlive all of my doctors just to spite them. Tomorrow I go back after 25 years of not wearing glasses to full-time glasses. I’m having a hard time seeing when I drive and reading is ridiculous. I had Lasix done 25 years ago and it was great, but I don’t know that I’d be comfortable with him doing it twice, thereby may be causing scarring. Insurance covers the glasses and the visit but they won’t touch the Lasix. That answers that.

 

[tobedetermined]

an x-ray showed that places on my spine were calcifying around the nerves

That sounds like spinal stenosis. Have you had an MRI? I have had 2 ops on my L4-L5 region for that. in the 1st he removed some bone and the 2nd was just a Dremel of the same area. Now I have it in L2-L3 - verified by MRI - and I have a meet with a surgeon in February since my regular one retired. At least the pain is different this time . . .

 

[Cuddles]

i'm going to my DR tomorrow. i WILL be asking him about this as a possible treatment for my shoulders. an x-ray showed that places on my spine were calcifying around the nerves, potentially causing my pain.

Try to ask him about physio (as in physio massage) too because it can really help a lot. Even better when insurance covers it

 

[armedoldhippy]

I tried those CBN gummy‘s, and I had to take 250 mg and still couldn’t feel anything.

article said that pure CBN didn't have an effect. the two together did, the old combination effect.

That sounds like spinal stenosis. Have you had an MRI?

doc that took x-ray said stenosis. we'll see what my doctor says today...

Even better when insurance covers it

EVERYTHING is better if covered! food, wine, health care...

 

[tobedetermined]

I don’t really consider stenosis pain to be real pain since it is your spinal cord rubbing on some nasty bone matter and telling you that you have pain in your legs or feet when there actually is none. That means that normal pain killers don’t really do squat. I have tried everything in my med supply with little to no success over the years.

My L4-L5 stenosis affected my lower legs and feet. Cramps in the lower legs and extreme pins and needles in my feet – to the point where it was difficult to walk any distance at all and even standing for longer than a minute was a problem – so quite debilitating. This time, the L2-L3 stenosis is affecting my upper legs and thighs with significant cramping. It feels as if I just walked 5 miles up a mountain path after only a minute or two on my feet. The doc prescribed a nerve drug – Pregabalin - usually used for epilepsy, fibromyalgia etc but after reading about it, I decided to do without it as long as I can. So the only thing I take is Robax – which is ibuprofen and methocarbamol – and it is the latter (a muscle relaxant) that seems to help a bit by relaxing me. I accompany that with lots of cannabis – the strongest that I have – and horizontal rest. For exercise, I load my brain up and walk my dog a mile or so every morning. The 1st half of the walk can be excruciating but the latter half is always much better – especially if I sit for a minute or two on a park bench. Good luck.

 

[OleReynard]

Pain definitely sucks. One of my bitches are the doctors. At least in my case every doc tells me I don’t make sense. I get what feels like (or what I imagine feels like) being stabbed repeatedly in two areas of my abdomen. It also burns like a son of a bitch. I can be sitting, walking, standing still.. and all the sudden I’m doubled over in pain. I also get shooting pain across the top of my chest. Right to left. Luckily this is a quick 10 second type. The stabbing one lasts long. Also there is a constant pain that does not go away. It always there at some level. Feels like Mike Tyson took his best shot and landed in my abs/ribs. On good days it’s only quite painful. My elbows are functional until some weight is applied. Constant soreness and stabbing when I use them. Docs tried telling me in my head until my elbows started failing. Now my hips have begun to follow suite. Also had a weak positive for chrons. I get the squats now and again. Sucks ass. Ha ha.

I’ve seemed to build up a huge tolerance and can vape constantly with little to no effect. I’ve found by accident one commercial cartridge removes elbow pain somewhat. I’m trying to figure what was in it. I’ll go broke buying 60$ cart every day. Plus it was in another state and not easy to get to.

Now looking at chemdawg or crosses.

@bigsur51 .. damnnn. Hopefully you are out of that bed by now. I’m working toward what you have going. Grow my own, make my own. What hard hitting indica strains do you grow?

I’ve made one salve that didn’t seem to work all that well. I was dropping edibles like m&m s. But.. turns out that was actually aggravating my chest pains somehow. Awful cycle. I hurt so would eat more, which made it worse, which made me eat more. I seldom eat edibles now and the pain is reduced from what it was. I figured this out when I ran out of gummies for a while. Maybe my strains? Don’t know.

Sounds like you need a neuro doc

 

[oldmaninbc]

I don’t really consider stenosis pain to be real pain since it is your spinal cord rubbing on some nasty bone matter and telling you that you have pain in your legs or feet when there actually is none. That means that normal pain killers don’t really do squat. I have tried everything in my med supply with little to no success over the years.

My L4-L5 stenosis affected my lower legs and feet. Cramps in the lower legs and extreme pins and needles in my feet – to the point where it was difficult to walk any distance at all and even standing for longer than a minute was a problem – so quite debilitating. This time, the L2-L3 stenosis is affecting my upper legs and thighs with significant cramping. It feels as if I just walked 5 miles up a mountain path after only a minute or two on my feet. The doc prescribed a nerve drug – Pregabalin - usually used for epilepsy, fibromyalgia etc but after reading about it, I decided to do without it as long as I can. So the only thing I take is Robax – which is ibuprofen and methocarbamol – and it is the latter (a muscle relaxant) that seems to help a bit by relaxing me. I accompany that with lots of cannabis – the strongest that I have – and horizontal rest. For exercise, I load my brain up and walk my dog a mile or so every morning. The 1st half of the walk can be excruciating but the latter half is always much better – especially if I sit for a minute or two on a park bench. Good luck.

I take Gabapentin for nerve pain, for me it works well in comparison to what I went through for 2 weeks prior to taking the medication. I thought I might lose my mind from the pain. Intense muscle cramps drove me crazy, almost.

I've lived with a different chronic pain since 2010, I'm no novice to pain. Have been on morphine since 2010, I could not live well without it.

 

[exoticrobotic]

I don’t really consider stenosis pain to be real pain since it is your spinal cord rubbing on some nasty bone matter and telling you that you have pain in your legs or feet when there actually is none. That means that normal pain killers don’t really do squat. I have tried everything in my med supply with little to no success over the years.

Stenosis can cause surrounding muscles to cramp up in an effort to try to compensate for the diminishing stability in the spine which causes problems in itself.

I have found my stiff cramping muscles can be relaxed quite a bit, along with also reducing associated nerve pain by taking Magnesium citrate 400mg tabs twice a day.

Magnesium Citrate is used along with VitC for when you go for a colonscopy to rinse your arsehole out. It draws water into the lower intestines which helps with motility and reduces trapped wind which i find further reduces lower back pain as regularity is very important in reducing general pain and discomfort, i find a full and non motile lower bowel exacerbates my lower back pain.

I think you need to be careful with Magnesium supplements as they can interefere with absorption of other medicines and also interact with heart medicines as it can change how the heart pumps ions but according to Google, 50% of Americans are deficient in this mineral and within our bodies, over 300 processes utilise Magnesium.

I have found it helps noticeably with muscle, nerve pain and ibs.

 

[Nannymouse]

@blondie, did you ever ask about the carisoprodol (soma)?

 

[Janborrego]

Stenosis can cause surrounding muscles to cramp up in an effort to try to compensate for the diminishing stability in the spine which causes problems in itself.

I have found my stiff cramping muscles can be relaxed quite a bit, along with also reducing associated nerve pain by taking Magnesium citrate 400mg tabs twice a day.

Magnesium Citrate is used along with VitC for when you go for a colonscopy to rinse your arsehole out. It draws water into the lower intestines which helps with motility and reduces trapped wind which i find further reduces lower back pain as regularity is very important in reducing general pain and discomfort, i find a full and non motile lower bowel exacerbates my lower back pain.

I think you need to be careful with Magnesium supplements as they can interefere with absorption of other medicines and also interact with heart medicines as it can change how the heart pumps ions but according to Google, 50% of Americans are deficient in this mineral and within our bodies, over 300 processes utilise Magnesium.

I have found it helps noticeably with muscle, nerve pain and ibs.

Have you tried making your own capsules?
I make them both with oil and with decarbed weed I finely grind in a mortar and pestle. Then I sift it out to remove any stems or seeds I missed prior to starting. The oil I use 2 caps I slept like a baby. I only need one of the weed caps. I use it for pain and sleep. For cramps I use salve it helps within 2 minutes of use.

 

[exoticrobotic]

Have you tried making your own capsules?
I make them both with oil and with decarbed weed I finely grind in a mortar and pestle. Then I sift it out to remove any stems or seeds I missed prior to starting. The oil I use 2 caps I slept like a baby. I only need one of the weed caps. I use it for pain and sleep. For cramps I use salve it helps within 2 minutes of use. View attachment 19126929

It's something i've tinkered with @Janborrego hash oil in alcohol or olive oil spray

 

[Cuddles]

Magnesium Citrate is used along with VitC for when you go for a colonscopy to rinse your arsehole out. It draws water into the lower intestines which

I thought it was epsom salt which is Magnesium Sulfate. It´s a laxative and also used for making so called magnesium oil.
Or do they mix the mag into it in order to relax the colon a little bit? I have to go in for those check ups soon. I must remember to ask them about it

But this said, too much of other magnesium types can also be too much to handle and can also make your run to the bathroom .

 

[exoticrobotic]

you can get many types of Magnesium.

Oxide, sulphate ( epsom salts ) , citrate and you can also get it chelated as glycinate.

i dunno the differences, how they are absorbed and how they affect the body different ways.

I figured citrate would be best as it may help buffer some acid in the stomach too.

So far my trapped wind has been released and bloatiness/indigestion after eating gone.

This damn wind in the intestines fuck with my back even more than the hernia, whiplash and torn hamstring.

 

[Janborrego]

It's something i've tinkered with @Janborrego hash oil in alcohol or olive oil spray

I just used my canna coconut oil and added sunflower lecithin. Then used an eye dropper to fill the caps. I added them to my gummy molds one at a time until I had what I wanted to try. Each cube holds 4 caps. Tonight I will try the ground decarbed bud and see if it works better or not. I decarbed 3 strains to try. Panama Red been curing since 5-2024, Sour Vengeance had been curing since 6-2024 and pineapple skunk which this is my first time breaking this out. I have plenty of all 3 seeds if it works out I will grow more. I have given the skunk out and it had rave reviews. I was hitting on maui the star of my garden this summer. All 3 strains were great. If my maui fems succeed I will grew these too. That was a great summer I had even though I lost a plant or 2 to kittens. Bad kittens. The year before, I lost 6 of my biggest trees to a bad doggy. Dog got banished kitten get the hose again And again until they figure out to stay off the weed plants. I am starting the pineapple skunk, now. I will try a different one each night to see what gives better rest, pain management

etc.SV is Sour Vengeance. I store them in a 4 ounce Tin

 

[oldmaninbc]

Stenosis can cause surrounding muscles to cramp up in an effort to try to compensate for the diminishing stability in the spine which causes problems in itself.

I have found my stiff cramping muscles can be relaxed quite a bit, along with also reducing associated nerve pain by taking Magnesium citrate 400mg tabs twice a day.

Magnesium Citrate is used along with VitC for when you go for a colonscopy to rinse your arsehole out. It draws water into the lower intestines which helps with motility and reduces trapped wind which i find further reduces lower back pain as regularity is very important in reducing general pain and discomfort, i find a full and non motile lower bowel exacerbates my lower back pain.

I think you need to be careful with Magnesium supplements as they can interefere with absorption of other medicines and also interact with heart medicines as it can change how the heart pumps ions but according to Google, 50% of Americans are deficient in this mineral and within our bodies, over 300 processes utilise Magnesium.

I have found it helps noticeably with muscle, nerve pain and ibs.

I've been using magnesium citrate since Dec of 2021, when my doctor suggested it for leg cramps because of a magnesium deficiency from taking a medication. I still will get leg cramps if I don't drink enough water. My family doc reminds me to drink water or I will suffer from cramps. These cramps are not associated with my sciatic nerve cramps or because of a medication related magnesium deficiency.
I've had to deal with muscle cramps from 3 different sources.

I take prescription morphine and get constipated, I like the magnesium for making a bowel movement easier.

 

[oldmaninbc]

oops

 

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[mr.brunch]

Stenosis is causing me a lot of pain at the moment. It was diagnosed as l4/l5 but I’m also getting a lot of sharp pain in my hips, plus groin and testicular pain with constant low back pain.
Seems these areas aren’t consistent with those nerves… would be good if the drs listened more