OUTDOOR GROWS 2023 -ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE-

[laszlokovacs]

Thanks @revegeta666 @pipeline @Chuck Jägerschnitzel I really do appreciate the advice. Interesting responses.

Fabric row covers stop pollination of plants that are not self fertile- including stuff that needs wind pollination. I know people use them for some curcurbits and then uncover/hand pollinate the male and female flowers manually (q-tip, paint brush, flower fucking, etc..) when theyre breeding melons tomatoes and such. But I know cannabis growers tend to have somewhat different approaches and techniques than vegetable growers. I think its better to be more careful than not- i dont want 1000+ seeds.

I have 2 males with 2 females in separate spots I want to make seeds from- will probably borrow bunch of all you guys' techniques. Prune hard to delay pollen, cut a branch and store in water indoors, dig up and pot up, clone and also use row cover lol, just gonna learn whats best.

 

[Old Piney]

Another trick I use is to pick the earliest male flower buds off so that there is I big flush of flowers opening at once in the bouquet Also I'm not to concerned about a little stray pollen as long as I know what it was. A few seeds in neighboring plant no big deal

 

[pipeline]

Thanks @revegeta666 @pipeline @Chuck Jägerschnitzel I really do appreciate the advice. Interesting responses.

Fabric row covers stop pollination of plants that are not self fertile- including stuff that needs wind pollination. I know people use them for some curcurbits and then uncover/hand pollinate the male and female flowers manually (q-tip, paint brush, flower fucking, etc..) when theyre breeding melons tomatoes and such. But I know cannabis growers tend to have somewhat different approaches and techniques than vegetable growers. I think its better to be more careful than not- i dont want 1000+ seeds.

I have 2 males with 2 females in separate spots I want to make seeds from- will probably borrow bunch of all you guys' techniques. Prune hard to delay pollen, cut a branch and store in water indoors, dig up and pot up, clone and also use row cover lol, just gonna learn whats best.

From what I remember it takes about 4-6 weeks for the seed to mature once pollinated. Not sure of the cutoff time, but I think its best to pollinate early so there is time for it to mature in case you have to cut early. Also would prevent having too many seeds produced.

 

[Chuck Jägerschnitzel]

This is my tray of light deprivation plants about to go inside for the evening, its one Blue Jägerschnitzel in front and two South Africans behind. This might be the last night indoors for Blue Jägerschnitzel, its an early flowering plant and probably hasn't needed the dep treatment for the past week or so. I started bringing it in for the night on July 1.

Blue Jägerschnitzel closeup.

The South Africans will need to get light deprivation until Sept 1, they started getting it July 24

MadMac, that early O-Haze project is really impressive. Getting it to start flowering 1st week of August at 52º must be about as early as it can get for a photoperiod plant.

 

[pipeline]

I like that blue Jaggarschnitzel! Squat leafy indica with purple stems!

What is the background on the genetics?

 

[therevverend]

This is my tray of light deprivation plants about to go inside for the evening, its one Blue Jägerschnitzel in front and two South Africans behind. This might be the last night indoors for Blue Jägerschnitzel, its an early flowering plant and probably hasn't needed the dep treatment for the past week or so. I started bringing it in for the night on July 1.

Nice. Light dep is the only way I'm finishing a Haze here, unless it's a very early one. The one time I tried it I kept screwing up. Taking a nap, sleeping in the next day, etc., and the thing hermied on me. Didn't help it was a huge landrace sativa. Takes a lot of dedication. My friend in Mendo had a nice set up 20 years ago. He'd dug a pit to mess with the helicopters. He realized he could put a tarp over the pit and do a light dep crop.

the plan was 2 years ago to create a good yielding haze (close as possible to OHz) for outdoors here in the north at 52°N ... need to finish mid october latest...
so i'll was looking around some time and finally found what i'll was looking for...

Great project.

Just want to say that mine are taking forever to start flowering as well. Guess things are late for some of us.

Ironic, because I have two plants throwing a few hairs and I feel like my stuff is early this year. I have a few others that have between 2-5 hairs a tip, I feel like I'm a week ahead. Of course there's lots of others that are still in veg. It'll be another week or two before flowering really kicks in.

Last year my best plant was a Huckleberry Punch. I have a female this year, she's looking good.

My best one last year didn't have the tall upright form, it was more of a big bushy type I could tie over. It had a massive yield. This one probably won't yield as much but the structure should lend itself to better mold resistance.

After my success with the huckleberry punch I wanted to get another strain from dynasty Genetics. Looked over their catalog and decided I need to try their Lime Berry Mega. It's Megafauna x Huckleberry. Megafauna is Kali Snapple x SSH. I've been interested in the Kali Snapple, Bodhi's Snow Queen is one of my favorites and is related to it. So far so good, I'm liking what I'm seeing and smelling.

I've leaned her back to get her to bush out. Not as much as the huckleberry punch last year because she's more crowded, but enough to do the trick. The smell is great, for a long time it was fizzy 7-Up but now that she's closer to flowering she's developing deeper funkier notes. Along with some spicy herbiness. She should be top shelf.

The (critical 47 x Shishkaberry) X (GG#4 x C99) was one of my best last year. Hit her with huckleberry punch pollen. I like the results.

I don't consider myself an amazing breeder but I do breed amazing stuff. Because I have amazing stuff to start with. As long as you successfully cross your best stuff with your best stuff every year you'll always grow the best stuff. It makes genetics so much simpler to understand that way...

 

[pipeline]

Sounds like some very promising lines there! Ready to see what shows up! Garden is filling in! Thanks for the update!

Thats the trick cross the best stuff with the best stuff. Plant the ones you really enjoy, its really that simple. Also holds the possibility for even better combinations down the line at F2 usually.

Although for long term success of the line, its good to try to manage it as a population and rouge out outlier phenotypes that don't conform, and promote the good ones at planting. According to some breeders like Tom Hill, the crosses of 2 single polyhybrid plants can possibly fizzle out over several generations, due to bottlenecking and inbreeding depression or for whatever reason with the plants that are used, seeing a decrease in the desirable phenotypes as a ratio of the overall seedlot.

 

[Chuck Jägerschnitzel]

I like that blue Jaggarschnitzel! Squat leafy indica with purple stems!

What is the background on the genetics?

Thanks, the Blue Jägerschnitzel is Blueberry BX1 crossed with Bradley Danks' Jägerschnitzel. I got the Blueberry BX1 from a Chicago Deadhead who is a dedicated Blueberry grower, so I call those ones the Chicago Blues, he made the BX1 using Blue Dream. Jägerschnitzel is a mix of Jäger, G13, Mickey Kush & Obama, with an emphasis on Jäger, its an early flowering and fast finishing seed strain that Bradley Danks put together for outdoor growing in Oregon. I put the two together a few years ago when I went to Bradley to beg for some pollen to use on a group of Mickey Obama x NL F2 autos that had come up all female and he had some frozen Jägerschnitzel dust to spare. I used his pollen on the Chicago Blues and a bunch of other stuff as well as the autos and I've been getting great results from those seeds ever since.

 

[revegeta666]

Bon dia!
Zacatecas Tribute @Hombre del mont surprisingly columnar for a sativa.

(X18 x PTK) x Uzbek @Mustafunk the first one to start flowering.

Triple pakita @Mustafunk.

All of them in 25L pots.

 

[Hombre del mont]

Bon dia!
Zacatecas Tribute @Hombre del mont surprisingly columnar for a sativa.
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(X18 x PTK) x Uzbek @Mustafunk the first one to start flowering.
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Triple pakita @Mustafunk.
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All of them in 25L pots.

Looking good my friend.

Here's my Zac tribute from last year, one week further down the road. You can just see the pistils forming.

 

[revegeta666]

Here's my Zac tribute from last year, one week further down the road. You can just see the pistils forming.
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Which one of the plants you have this year looks like it will start flowering first?

 

[LBL]

This is my tray of light deprivation plants about to go inside for the evening, its one Blue Jägerschnitzel in front and two South Africans behind. This might be the last night indoors for Blue Jägerschnitzel, its an early flowering plant and probably hasn't needed the dep treatment for the past week or so. I started bringing it in for the night on July 1.

That is True Dedication !

I can handle bringing animals in at night.

But moving plants in too ...

 

[revegeta666]

That is True Dedication !

I can handle bringing animals in at night.

But moving plants in too ...

It's not that much of a hassle if you got the right tools

 

[Hombre del mont]

I think the destroyer of yesteryear; I'll try and update my diary over the weekend.

 

[LBL]

It's not that much of a hassle if you got the right tools
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Do the plants stay in the carts all the time - or do you have to lift them and put them in the cart every day ?

Either way - true dedication.

 

[revegeta666]

Do the plants stay in the carts all the time - or do you have to lift them and put them in the cart every day ?

Either way - true dedication.

They do stay in their carts for the most part. The point is to not lift them lol.

 

[pipeline]

September 2022

 

[pipeline]

Glad you have the destroyer going. Do you plan to make seed with it, or do you still have plenty. I think you said they were getting old. I remember it was a great cross what is Destroyer? Its a haze hybrid I think.

 

[Chuck Jägerschnitzel]

It's not that much of a hassle if you got the right tools
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Thats a great looking system, you can do much bigger containers that way, I've never dep'd anything bigger than a 2 gallon. Theres a photo which I think is somewhere on this website of someone growing in a wheelbarrow full of dirt which looked like another nifty option for people who are rolling them into a garage. My plants have to migrate up and down 3 flights of stairs to get their sleep so wheels are out of the question for me.

 

[Eltitoguay]

...Yesterday (a week later), Thai A5 Haze (Asociación de Cultivadores Españoles);
(Si que se está haciendo grande, El Mani: ya mide 1'65 m; 15 cms en una semana):
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Hasta la próxima vista; salud a espuertas para tod@s.

5-August:
A wasp devours a larva (of a fly?) in the curtains of the door of my house:

I go up to "The Dogs' House" to take a look at the plants, just before the sun goes down.

Thai A5 Haze fem:
1'70m tall. I begin to tilt it towards the East:
(Regarding your question about its harvest date, Pipeline; I have never grown it; I suppose that in my climate and region, between November 23 and December 1...)

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