the final proof will be in the smoking... def interesting, please keep updating...
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Osmocote, my favorite plant food - easy peasy, complete
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Old Uncle Ben
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Nice shots, nice plants.
Used Osmocote 15-9-12 on Cannacopia Lapis Mtn. indica. Bud was 3.3 oz dry. Harvest was about 5 months after I threw in a light handful on the top of the backfill when I upcanned from the germ pots. Notice lots of healthy green leaves left? Buds were nice on this little plant and the high is so potent.
Cost of feeding 8 little, pure indica plants? About 50 cents.
All were males but the Lapis and Monkey Balls (Deep Chunk backcross).
Uncle Ben
Used Osmocote 15-9-12 on Cannacopia Lapis Mtn. indica. Bud was 3.3 oz dry. Harvest was about 5 months after I threw in a light handful on the top of the backfill when I upcanned from the germ pots. Notice lots of healthy green leaves left? Buds were nice on this little plant and the high is so potent.
Cost of feeding 8 little, pure indica plants? About 50 cents.
All were males but the Lapis and Monkey Balls (Deep Chunk backcross).
Uncle Ben
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islandpreservation
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damn that looks great, nice cross with the monkey balls! deep chunk coming thru strong. I use osmocote on all my nursery plants, never thought about using it on the herbs. might have to give it a go after seeing thisNice shots, nice plants.
Used Osmocote 15-9-12 on Cannacopia Lapis Mtn. indica. Bud was 3.3 oz dry. Harvest was about 5 months after I threw in a light handful on the top of the backfill when I upcanned from the germ pots. Notice lots of healthy green leaves left? Buds were nice on this little plant and the high is so potent.
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Cost of feeding 8 little, pure indica plants? About 50 cents.
All were males but the Lapis and Monkey Balls (Deep Chunk backcross).
Uncle Ben
islandpreservation
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thats interesting stoked to check out your link, strange how most ag scientists dog on compost tea. I too believe in peer reviewed science. Ted radovich at UH hawaii had a 150 k grant to research compost tea and started of a disbeliever, he changed his tune after. https://www2.hawaii.edu/~theodore/Compost_tea.html
islandpreservation
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curious ben do you do anything for pest control or foliars?
Old Uncle Ben
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My only problem is mites. I sometimes stick my plants in the greenhouse and often give them full sun. A blast of water a couple of times gets the mites. They hate moisture with populations ramping up during hot and dry or low RH periods. Mealybugs and mites are epidemic in my greenhouse, hard to control mostly my fault for not acting. I might foliar spray with Forbid 4F which takes care of all family of mites in every one of their stages. Whiteflies too.
Here's a severe mite attack on my old C99 backcross in the greenhouse few years ago. See the fine whitish mottling of the leaves? It totally fouled up the crop. Potency sucked because they rendered the leaves pretty lame and contrary to popular forum "leafing" hype, it's leaves that make good bud.
As an aside my C99 backcross and the progeny I did about 21 years ago looked like clones. That's how stable it is. All seeds germinated too. Cold storage, dry.
Uncle Ben
islandpreservation
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Wow thats brutal, thats funny I was just out spraying down my C99's that are getting slammed by mites and flies.
I also have these tiny white flies that are smaller than whitefly I don't know what they are, but they suckle leaves, seems cindy is super vulnerable, she will get strong out here or shes wont make the cut. sounds like you got a good old cindy, you getting that pineapple from her?
ps I also graft and plant much rare exotic tropical fruit, and use osmocote strictly in my nursery. We are on similar pages it seems
normally i will bomb my tent in veg, and sometimes rite b4 12/12 again - i have also used various sprays from neem, safersoap, also with clove,teatreeoil, rosemary oil- this is for mites, but knock-on-wood last few grows i have been spared, but... PM seems tobe be a problem... so this grow, i sprayed em down with water, and coated the leaves with sulphur... and then sprinkled the soil with DE... we will see...
Old Uncle Ben
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We are on the same page, too cool.
I have the original C99. Bought the seeds from Ron owner of Heaven's Stairway. It has the fruity taste on your palate.
Tropical fruits? Now you have my heart. I have been grafting and producing avocados, mangos, citrus, pitaya, annonas, pineapple, maters and such in a large greenhouse for many years. That's where my passion is. I tip trees to keep them around 14' or so. I've grafted 4 varieties of oranges on my key lime tree. They are sugar sweet. Osmocote is all I use. My citrus trees get about 12-14 oz in Feb. of each year.
Screwed up the formatting on this one LOL. Here's Moro blood orange and Reed avocado in your quote. .
T-bud citrus graft.
Grow hard,
Uncle Ben
I have the original C99. Bought the seeds from Ron owner of Heaven's Stairway. It has the fruity taste on your palate.
Tropical fruits? Now you have my heart. I have been grafting and producing avocados, mangos, citrus, pitaya, annonas, pineapple, maters and such in a large greenhouse for many years. That's where my passion is. I tip trees to keep them around 14' or so. I've grafted 4 varieties of oranges on my key lime tree. They are sugar sweet. Osmocote is all I use. My citrus trees get about 12-14 oz in Feb. of each year.
Screwed up the formatting on this one LOL. Here's Moro blood orange and Reed avocado in your quote. .
T-bud citrus graft.
Grow hard,
Uncle Ben
marwachine
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How much osmocote do you feed your trees? And how do you take care of them aside from pruning?
Old Uncle Ben
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"My citrus trees get about 12-14 oz in Feb. of each year."
Citrus are heavy feeders. The others get less, like 4-10 oz/year depending on their age and such. I try to remember to spray them with Bonide All Season Hort. Oil late winter. If pests really get bad I'll add 1 tsp. of bifenthrin to that oil mix. Both are very low toxic with a very short half life.
UB
Old Uncle Ben
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You don't get leaf burn (phytotoxicity) with Safer's or sulfur?
I don't do tents so I don't have a problem with PM but if I did I'd use one of my copper fungicides, Magnabon CS2005. It's very broad spectrum, even controlling most blights.
My (pure) indicas were so leafy it looked like someone took their boot and squished them. Internodes were about non existent!
No PM or any disease issues.
Uncle Ben
so far, no burn , or bad effects- i dusted em when i transplanted from small pots to their final 5gallon resting place... its been 2 weeks... so far, so good... only problem is getting the temp up... i read under led's u want 80+ F... i'm barely at 75F... i guess if i turn off the fans, the temp will rise, but i want the airflow, and changing of air....
islandpreservation
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nice haul
Will have to send you some pics. And wow that cindy 99 sounds legit. Im growing old peak seeds stock hoping to find some tropical tastes. Thanks for sharing
nice haul man. thats awesome what you are doing it. takes a lot of dedication and learning. I collect wierd fruits from all over the place too. Not a lot of people growing anonnas in greenhouses! Our island has a crazy diversity. For annonas I got poshte, illama, rollinia, atemoya, cherimoya, custard apple, junglesop, soursop, mountain soursop, spinescens (tastes like pumpkin), I could go on haha. Got over 20 eugenias too
Will have to send you some pics. And wow that cindy 99 sounds legit. Im growing old peak seeds stock hoping to find some tropical tastes. Thanks for sharing
Old Uncle Ben
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nice haul
nice haul man. thats awesome what you are doing it. takes a lot of dedication and learning. I collect wierd fruits from all over the place too. Not a lot of people growing anonnas in greenhouses! Our island has a crazy diversity. For annonas I got poshte, illama, rollinia, atemoya, cherimoya, custard apple, junglesop, soursop, mountain soursop, spinescens (tastes like pumpkin), I could go on haha. Got over 20 eugenias too
Too cool. I grafted 5 cherimoya varieties on a rootstock. Think I got one measly fruit on it. Gonna pull it for another Gary Zill mango, probably Rosigold. BTW, I've had 2 bad freezes due to heater failure, running out of fuel etc. and bounced back. Had Rollinia too. Here's the source, was from Hawaii, 2016:
That's a lot of Eugnias! Peak19? I did a lot of crosses with that one 20 or so years ago. Still have some of those seeds. One of my best was a male Peak19 X C99 cross. Sure wish I had those seeds now! I gave most away for an auction to help out some grower who got busted years ago. Damn if the Canadian Royal Police didn't confiscate them at customs.
2002 crosses:
C99 X Peak19 ready for harvest
3.5 week flowering.
C99 @ 6.5 weeks. C99 had a rep for being done around 7 weeks.
Uncle Ben
marwachine
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how do you measure how much feed to use per plant/tree?
Old Uncle Ben
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scale, sometimes guessing, by feel.
do u feed your citrus year round? ... i have 1/2 dozen small trees, in pots which i take in to my greenhouse room in late fall, and bring back outside in late spring... mine are small, in 1, 2, 3 gallon pots... meyer lemon,limes, etc
islandpreservation
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wow those ladies look lovely ben! Yeah I was able to track down some increases of peak seed stock at justahandful seeds. Can't say it was the most perfect experience but I have high hopes for them. Hunting for hawaiian punch Sorry you lost that cross man looks like she was quite a yielder.
good to see rollina making it around, seems like everyone loves that fruit. We have tons of seeds most of year if you ever need it again and one of the best culitvars ive had. .
Man never heard of multi grafted cherimoya, high level.. That one can be finicky. I do atemoya double graft side veneer onto pond apple with atemoya cleft onto cherimoya interstock. making it work. Seems to be the best way for the rains out here. Grafting durian though always feel like brain surgery such high stakes!! and always low success epicotyl graft. sorry to hijack thread with grafting geekinees, I will stop hehe..one last thing kasturi mango is the best fruit I ever tasted
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marwachine
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I see. What I meant was your decision making process on how much osmocote to feed your trees.
