I found smoke report on JH, which is close to my experience, and I grew a lot of it till 2008 or so, it was tad better thank NL5skunk1 aka shiva skunk, everybody is growing it here till now, as it is productive and strong... the taste is average.. not the most tasty weed.
"my man who i trust and have been dealing with almost 10 years hooked me up w/ some jack. i've been burnin sour d for about past 3 months daily, so i didn't think the jack would effect me that much. i was wrong. i took 4 pulls from a blunt and am wacked out of my skull, almost to the point of too much. my knees were even shaking. i felt like a bitch. i burned about an hour ago, the shakes are gone thank god but i am hiiiiiiigh!"
yeah that is exact if you smoke it for first time, heavier than sour diesel, but because of nl1sk1 dominance in it, you get tolerance pretty quickly, comment from @Limeygreen is funny in this context, that he is building tolerance to grandfunk, okay then try jack, dude ahaha... and you will see what building tolerance means...
so yeah if you are smoking kushes and diesels, and then you smoke NL5haze or even more indica hazy hybrid like NL1/haze with skunk in it aka Jack, it seems to you like some perfect haze. if you are smoking thaihazes like me, NL5haze seems to you totally differently...
I said feeling like piece of abused punk after the two hours high is gone - at better phenos, then it is only about stone and going down and not high - not typical for haze right? to get wasted this way, and you feel like that. guy from NYC said feeling like bitch. yeah.
when I smoke haze, I want to get high, not to feel like bitch and devastated... no desire for selfdestruction like junkies or heavy drinkers... I want to open the doors of perception, not to close it LOL
and cant help, when you feel like bitch, you behave like that, as we see at haze trolls...
another one:
"I went through some of the clone offerings and the shorter one with the round buds wasn't the best high wise. But it was heavy as hell, still had that one of a kind taste and smell while giving cash crop status . Different strokes I guess.."
did he say "HEAVY"??? oh yes, he is talking the truth.
JackHerrer is very well known weed here, maybe not in North America, but here it is one of the most usual weed, you can get... so if somebody tries to convince you it has clear, not narcotic effect, effect like haze, it is clear to us that somebody is not talking the truth. jack herrer is narcotic smoke.
what traditional growers of Jack complain, when they are buying seeds of JH, that it is not what it used to be before 2006, it is more about stone than it was originally... so everybody is chasing old cuts of it, instead of buying seeds. it is not so hard to get cut of it here...
and yeah we had 13weeker pheno of JH here till 2010 or so, then it disappeared... it cant stand next to other commercial hazes like nebula or ghost train haze, mainly better taste of it wins...
honey pheno of nebula:
and to choose jack herrer for haze pheno hunt instead of let say nevilles haze, is complete nonsense. as you would need a lot of seeds for it... sensi seeds have NL5haze for it... which also you would need like 20 - 30 seeds to find haze pheno, with jack much more.
and that is the truth, one hazy pheno in many seeds cant change anything on it, and the most phenos of JH are heavy, narcotic and stony. so exactly what real haze is not. so logical... so you get one hazy pheno in many seeds, it is called selection? no.. you would need more hazy phenos to select from. so logically you will grab nevilles haze or skunkhaze as you get more hazy phenos to choose from than from JH...
I dont have anything against JH lovers. there is stronger weed, there is more fun weed, there is more psychoactive weed, but okay. you guys like it, no problem. just dont say it is haze.. sure it contains hints of haze LOL but it is not haze.
if it would be so easy to find haze pheno in dutch hazes, pheno that would satisfy me, I buy it now! but well after smoking these thaihazes, it is almost impossible. from all those dutch hazes, rare 18weeker pheno of NH(bohemps cut) was the closest to good thaihaze, but still it lacks on energetic level for example... unfortunately the most of them are lumbo dominant, and for example even colombian gold, without any NL or skunk, some phenos of it can be heavy and sleepy... thats the fact. when I grew Macs 90s haze cross, I was surprised that some phenos are stony, it is cerebral stone, dreamy and floaty, not like when NL is mixed in, but still kind of stony.
thats why I started to make thaihaze hybrids. and it works. I am very satisfied with my posiheavythai haze male, as well as other growers, like you can see in this thread.
I hope we are done with all haze trolls for now, at least here in this thread.
"my man who i trust and have been dealing with almost 10 years hooked me up w/ some jack. i've been burnin sour d for about past 3 months daily, so i didn't think the jack would effect me that much. i was wrong. i took 4 pulls from a blunt and am wacked out of my skull, almost to the point of too much. my knees were even shaking. i felt like a bitch. i burned about an hour ago, the shakes are gone thank god but i am hiiiiiiigh!"
yeah that is exact if you smoke it for first time, heavier than sour diesel, but because of nl1sk1 dominance in it, you get tolerance pretty quickly, comment from @Limeygreen is funny in this context, that he is building tolerance to grandfunk, okay then try jack, dude ahaha... and you will see what building tolerance means...
so yeah if you are smoking kushes and diesels, and then you smoke NL5haze or even more indica hazy hybrid like NL1/haze with skunk in it aka Jack, it seems to you like some perfect haze. if you are smoking thaihazes like me, NL5haze seems to you totally differently...
I said feeling like piece of abused punk after the two hours high is gone - at better phenos, then it is only about stone and going down and not high - not typical for haze right? to get wasted this way, and you feel like that. guy from NYC said feeling like bitch. yeah.
when I smoke haze, I want to get high, not to feel like bitch and devastated... no desire for selfdestruction like junkies or heavy drinkers... I want to open the doors of perception, not to close it LOL
and cant help, when you feel like bitch, you behave like that, as we see at haze trolls...
another one:
"I went through some of the clone offerings and the shorter one with the round buds wasn't the best high wise. But it was heavy as hell, still had that one of a kind taste and smell while giving cash crop status . Different strokes I guess.."
did he say "HEAVY"??? oh yes, he is talking the truth.
JackHerrer is very well known weed here, maybe not in North America, but here it is one of the most usual weed, you can get... so if somebody tries to convince you it has clear, not narcotic effect, effect like haze, it is clear to us that somebody is not talking the truth. jack herrer is narcotic smoke.
what traditional growers of Jack complain, when they are buying seeds of JH, that it is not what it used to be before 2006, it is more about stone than it was originally... so everybody is chasing old cuts of it, instead of buying seeds. it is not so hard to get cut of it here...
and yeah we had 13weeker pheno of JH here till 2010 or so, then it disappeared... it cant stand next to other commercial hazes like nebula or ghost train haze, mainly better taste of it wins...
honey pheno of nebula:
and to choose jack herrer for haze pheno hunt instead of let say nevilles haze, is complete nonsense. as you would need a lot of seeds for it... sensi seeds have NL5haze for it... which also you would need like 20 - 30 seeds to find haze pheno, with jack much more.
and that is the truth, one hazy pheno in many seeds cant change anything on it, and the most phenos of JH are heavy, narcotic and stony. so exactly what real haze is not. so logical... so you get one hazy pheno in many seeds, it is called selection? no.. you would need more hazy phenos to select from. so logically you will grab nevilles haze or skunkhaze as you get more hazy phenos to choose from than from JH...
I dont have anything against JH lovers. there is stronger weed, there is more fun weed, there is more psychoactive weed, but okay. you guys like it, no problem. just dont say it is haze.. sure it contains hints of haze LOL but it is not haze.
if it would be so easy to find haze pheno in dutch hazes, pheno that would satisfy me, I buy it now! but well after smoking these thaihazes, it is almost impossible. from all those dutch hazes, rare 18weeker pheno of NH(bohemps cut) was the closest to good thaihaze, but still it lacks on energetic level for example... unfortunately the most of them are lumbo dominant, and for example even colombian gold, without any NL or skunk, some phenos of it can be heavy and sleepy... thats the fact. when I grew Macs 90s haze cross, I was surprised that some phenos are stony, it is cerebral stone, dreamy and floaty, not like when NL is mixed in, but still kind of stony.
thats why I started to make thaihaze hybrids. and it works. I am very satisfied with my posiheavythai haze male, as well as other growers, like you can see in this thread.
I hope we are done with all haze trolls for now, at least here in this thread.
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, constant dis Nevil and his inferior Haze but churn out seeds with his famous strains ? That doesnt sound like straight clown moves ?
