Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

[MAHA KALA]

I think it is against TOU to offer seeds openly... remove it...

I didn't say skunkhaze is bad. skunkhaze is what it is... it has its limitation - like lower ceilling, heaviness of effect, shorter lasting effect, come down etc. - and I try to create something different.

I didn't say diesel/haze is bad... I said it is out my concept.
I dont contradict myself - thats bullshit. I like all those cultivars, even Nevilles haze, amnesia or jack. but every of those dutch hybrids has its minuses when I compare it to pure haze. something was lost in the process of hybridization. that's why I am making my own hybrids and reasons why I dont use sour diesel I mentioned... if you want to use it, do that and I dont understand why are you offended? haha. also why do you think your diesel/haze is better than current diesel/haze or better than OSH or titans haze cuts? how can you know it? shouldnt you grow some other diesel hazes to see?

diesel haze has same minuses as skunkhaze....

yes, sour diesel is too indica for my concept.

I grow sour diesel for euphoric effect, which is longer than its psychoactive effect... its psychoactive effect is like 20 minutes long...

no, I dont care about your skunkhaze or kushhaze.... at all... yes, I heard your opinion on karmas diesel, so many times, it is not funny anymore.... my opinion is that diesel cant come close to haze effect at all. I dont care about average phenos. when I put the best phenos of toms haze next to real cut of ECSD, it is clear to me...

I dont have to grow anybodys bx of sour diesel, as I made my own and worked it for years LOL long before karma did any... so I know genetics very intimately and know what phenos are appearing there... not everybody is karmas fan LOL but I got special sour diesel backcross from very great astralian breeder, which I am fan of and I am looking forward to it. it is backcrossed with zamal which can help with its psychoactivity for sure. let see....

you dont know skunkhaze at all... first grow it and then we can discuss what skunk is doing to haze... it is apparent that you are very under educated about it....

I didn't say sd x nh is the same as sdxthh, I said that I know how sour diesel GENETICS works with haze GENETICS generally LOL

it really doesnt matter if you grow skunkhaze or dieselhaze, effect is very similar, only terps are slightly different... I am not interested to make something what was done already, why to do that, it is easier to grab skunkmans hazeskunks instead of breeding it again, nonsense to me... or I can grab OSH cut from Sammy to have it even more easy...

rezdog really didnt invent anything new with his SSSDH as he advertised... it is just more indica kind of super silver haze and nothing more... overall we can say diesel doesnt work with haze so good in crossing to create something new and innovative... diesel is just skunkweed.

this thread is opened to anybody who has experience with psychoactive phenotype of haze hybrid... which can be even phenotype of diesel/haze... I just tried to explain why it is out my interest, as you asked why not.. so I answered why not...

as I am interested in line which puts real haziness out in every other pheno, not that I have to look for it in dozens of phenos like in case of skunkhaze or dieselhaze or kushhaze... which all are too heavy in effect...

and dont offer your seeds in this thread anymore. solve it in pms like gentleman..

 

[MAHA KALA]

TOU:

7. Solicitations: Threads or posts soliciting or offering the buying/selling/trading/swapping/testing/giving of seeds, clones, pollen, cannabis, hash, or any other substance or article is not permitted and will be deleted, with the member subjected to banning without warning. Threads or posts pertaining to the recreational use of narcotic substances is not permitted and will be deleted.

so @elanius dont act like that, I dont want my thread to be deleted.. thank you very much....

and to anybody... dont offer your seeds in this thread, whatever your intention is... thanks for understanding.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I got echo from ACE, that guy from LT was not working with them and even abused their trust... so I apologize for that misinformation. I am sorry.

 

[MAHA KALA]

back to the theme...

I am testing juicy woo here. and every pheno is sooo long lasting... 4 hours + easily... even without any curing!

this juicy woo is completely MUSICAL weed!!! cant remember if I ever have heard so well... literally every little sound and more I hear... it opens element of HEARING to the max in my mind... just wonderful...

I am not definitely type of guy who would listen to wind LOL but after smoking juicy woo, it gives sense hahaha.

 

[GreenAndFast]

What is the lineage of your juicy woo @MAHA KALA? 4 hours? Wow I can only dream of effects lasting that long. Vaped a sample of AB yesterday afternoon. Immediate pressure behind the eyes and the need to get up and do things. Taste is wonderful, that meaty funk smell comes through leaving my mouth coated. Had pretty red eyes from it which doesn't really happen to me anymore. Think another branch will be chopped off today, I noticed a fair few bananas. Then again I may just leave it as it means more seeds for me to grow haha really happy with the way this plant is turning out. To me this is exactly how cannabis needs to be. Would like to dry soft it for some hash but the bud structure is so beautiful I don't know if I can do it

 

[GreenAndFast]

Look at the structure of this clone of AB. Delightful.

 

[MAHA KALA]

What is the lineage of your juicy woo @MAHA KALA? 4 hours? Wow I can only dream of effects lasting that long.

I use Mr. Shine... @Limeygreen reported 5 hours at grandfunk... it is the male who prolongs duration of effect... but well grown AB should provide long lasting effect too.

Vaped a sample of AB yesterday afternoon. Immediate pressure behind the eyes and the need to get up and do things. Taste is wonderful, that meaty funk smell comes through leaving my mouth coated. Had pretty red eyes from it which doesn't really happen to me anymore. Think another branch will be chopped off today, I noticed a fair few bananas. Then again I may just leave it as it means more seeds for me to grow haha really happy with the way this plant is turning out. To me this is exactly how cannabis needs to be. Would like to dry soft it for some hash but the bud structure is so beautiful I don't know if I can do it

great to hear you like it. mouth coated sounds good. yes, she is very sensitive to any kind of stress, like I said Mr. Shine crosses are much better in it... unfortunately... but that's the challenge for you. nobody says you have to grow it perfectly for first time, she is special jungle lady, produces true ganja and indoors is not her home... nanners just mean it can be grown better.

 

[Limeygreen]

It is true I had 5 hours on a pheno and if I had larger amounts in the vaporizer there would be time I needed to remind myself to breath type of feelings, tight in the chest, drink cool drink like water or orange juice and walk, run or be active. I did notice though tolerance built up so not everytime was it 5 hours for me, once tolerance built up, wait 4-5 days and it was back to baseline.

 

[MAHA KALA]

It is true I had 5 hours on a pheno and if I had larger amounts in the vaporizer there would be time I needed to remind myself to breath type of feelings, tight in the chest, drink cool drink like water or orange juice and walk, run or be active. I did notice though tolerance built up so not everytime was it 5 hours for me, once tolerance built up, wait 4-5 days and it was back to baseline.

thanks and duration of AB for you?

 

[Limeygreen]

AB, I don't have any notes for so I am relying on my memory but I think somewhere from 2.5-3 hours was common. I didn't have such a pearly pheno, the thai structured pheno I believe was around 3 hours.

 

[GreenAndFast]

Yes totally agree on the growing it properly. It's in a new tent in a new area of my house. I've had the door to the tent open alot due to how humid it's been so, light leaks are highly likely. Also have deliberately fed as little as possible to see where she stands, next run I'll up the feed and see how she goes. How I would love to grow it massive outdoors under tropical sun.

 

[GreenAndFast]

I actually have that little grand funk plant drying now

 

[MAHA KALA]

3 hours from smoking JW, and I am still very high, very clear high... it is kind of centered back in the head... unusual. it is nervous only first 10 minutes. then it is very warm and happy, but also extremely elevating... but still I am talking only about shorter flowering ones, those longer ones are still going in its 13th week...

also acid beauties are in its 13th week and it looks like it will need like 18 weeks LOL

 

[MAHA KALA]

Yes totally agree on the growing it properly. It's in a new tent in a new area of my house. I've had the door to the tent open alot due to how humid it's been so, light leaks are highly likely. Also have deliberately fed as little as possible to see where she stands, next run I'll up the feed and see how she goes. How I would love to grow it massive outdoors under tropical sun.

your AB is beautiful. I am sure that next time it will be even better..

we all wish to grow under tropical sun LOL

anyway I am very curious about your comparison mango thai vs. AB...

 

[GreenAndFast]

I can give you a little review now as yesterday I began my day with 3 bags off the volcano with mango Thai. Racy, hard edge for 30 mins, can't keep still, thoughts buzzing round the head. Kept having more bags throughout the morning and afternoon. Then had 2 bags of the AB and instantly felt the difference. Brighter colours, very active also. The need for a cure is pretty apparent but I'm very happy with it and it's definitely going to be a jar that I grab along with the MT. Fighting the urge to cut it down as I like it so much haha

 

[GreenAndFast]

Acid beauty. Wow just smoked a 1G joint - no tobacco. This is some heavy gear. Super euphoric and I almost feel light on my feet. Twinkle toes haha a twinge of a psychedelic edge. Maybe two joints would do it

 

[Jahaze]

but still I am talking only about shorter flowering ones, those longer ones are still going in its 13th week...

Hey Maha, I pulled a couple of buds from 11 week clone plant of juicy woo and after was dry enough to smoke I got very good duration of effect even without cure. The buds were from the part of the plant that was burned with the lights that fell and had amber resin but I dont think it was because it was mature but because of stress of lights on top of them. The effect was clear and warm but felt a bit stony after an hour...but again doesn't mean anything as these were from a part of plant that did not grow stress free. I cut about 1/3 of the top (damaged part) and the bottom is still in flower along with the other plant which will be a better representation of this particular pheno. Without saying too much at the moment the smoke has very strong haze characteristics but the blue line is showing up in the smoke quite nicely. I am curious as to the flowering time of the flootm mom you used in cross. Even though my plant looks very hazy I think 11-12 weeks for my particular plant is a good harvest window.

 

[Digger102]

Good evening @MAHA KALA !! Hope all is well and you're having a good day. I'm getting ready to pop a few beans and I was thinking about some Asian Beauty's in the line up but I had a couple questions. Do you think its a bad idea to run them indoors? How many weeks do you think they need? and what is the LH in the cross?

 

[MAHA KALA]

Hey Maha, I pulled a couple of buds from 11 week clone plant of juicy woo and after was dry enough to smoke I got very good duration of effect even without cure. The buds were from the part of the plant that was burned with the lights that fell and had amber resin but I dont think it was because it was mature but because of stress of lights on top of them. The effect was clear and warm but felt a bit stony after an hour...but again doesn't mean anything as these were from a part of plant that did not grow stress free. I cut about 1/3 of the top (damaged part) and the bottom is still in flower along with the other plant which will be a better representation of this particular pheno. Without saying too much at the moment the smoke has very strong haze characteristics but the blue line is showing up in the smoke quite nicely. I am curious as to the flowering time of the flootm mom you used in cross. Even though my plant looks very hazy I think 11-12 weeks for my particular plant is a good harvest window.

thanks for sharing your first impressions. yeah it seems that you got shorter flowering pheno. good maturity is the key, so take it there. dont be afraid to push it to edge of maturity, you cant loose like with indica doms...

to me all phenos seem to have very strong haze characteristics... wish blue genes were more pronounced in taste, on the other hand I am happy it is so hazy...

flowering time for mother was 10 weeks...

Good evening @MAHA KALA !! Hope all is well and you're having a good day. I'm getting ready to pop a few beans and I was thinking about some Asian Beauty's in the line up but I had a couple questions. Do you think its a bad idea to run them indoors? How many weeks do you think they need? and what is the LH in the cross?

Hi, it depends on your skillz bro it needs 15 weeks + so patience is the key... ideal is to flower it from cut, it is more manageable then... columnar phenos are more easy, but when you get that octopuss pheno, it can stretch and stretch and stretch... hopefully you have intense lights, red spectrum helps with sativas a lot...

LH is nevilles haze caramel pheno x black vietnamese made by Australians

 

[MAHA KALA]

Acid beauty. Wow just smoked a 1G joint - no tobacco. This is some heavy gear. Super euphoric and I almost feel light on my feet. Twinkle toes haha a twinge of a psychedelic edge. Maybe two joints would do it

great to hear that. because you have only one pheno I am glad you got good one, it sounds like good one... you know that like any tropical cultivar it needs some cure, some sweating in jars...

I cant have much weed at home for obvious reason, so yeah I had one bigger jar of acid beauty in fridge for like year and half, and the rest of jars I had to dig under ground, where is higher temperature and it is more sweating there than in fridge, so I let it there over year too. herb from fridge was still lime green and tasted great, its effect was strong. but herb which was sweating under ground, changed color to dark yellow, and taste was not so good LOL kind of dirty chocolate tasting more than citric... but the effect! was stronger than from fridge, super strong! and even more psychedelic.... I mean it was quite difference...

I think ideal temperature for its curing is around 15 °C +... buds have to have some moist in jars, so it can sweat...