Dude. The recipe is in cups per cubic foot.
Trust me, it's so easy even I can do it.
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Dude. The recipe is in cups per cubic foot.
Trust me, it's so easy even I can do it.
Burn1
RiddleMeThis
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Don't think I'm explaining myself well.
I am saying, I am unsure how many cups of, for example blood meal, come in a pound. Trying to figure out how many pounds of each amendment I'll need for 12.5 cu ft. Organic soil amendments are not commonly sold where I live, so I will have to buy online. I don't want to buy too little.
Sorry for the confusion. thank you for all of the information you have provided.
Picked up the pro mix and perlite this afternoon, castings should arrive within the week.
I am saying, I am unsure how many cups of, for example blood meal, come in a pound. Trying to figure out how many pounds of each amendment I'll need for 12.5 cu ft. Organic soil amendments are not commonly sold where I live, so I will have to buy online. I don't want to buy too little.
Sorry for the confusion. thank you for all of the information you have provided.
Picked up the pro mix and perlite this afternoon, castings should arrive within the week.
RiddleMeThis
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just trying to figure out if a 5# back of the various amendments will do for 12 cu ft, or if I'll need more...
RiddleMeThis
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B1, you were right about the pro mix... 1 bag (3.8 cu. ft.) fluffed up to over 9 cu ft of of soiless mix 2
You're trying to compare volume to weight (apples to oranges). All the recipes I posted and the way I have always used them is volume.
If I were in your position, I'd buy only what I could afford then see how much complete mix with food you can make. Then base your garden size on what you have.
I would start on the LC's Mix. If you make too much you can save it for years. Just stir it up a little every month or so to give it some air and keep it active.
Use the 12"X12"X12" box I told you about. Get a box of LC's Mix (one cubic foot) and mix the blood/bone/kelp into it. Pour that into a storage bin or trash can. You can also store that for years as long as it's kept dry.
When you see you're getting low on blood/bone/kelp then that's all you can make.
You can grow a shit load of weed in a 4'X4'X8' space. One 400 watt HPS lamp and four 4 gallon restaurant sized mayonnaise buckets with 1/2" holes drilled in the bottom of them can easily yield plenty for personal use. I never show, sell or tell. That will keep you put of jail.
This shit is easy, but you have to start. The more you grow, the more you'll know. But don't make this more complicated that it is. It's easy.
Burn1
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Used a 1 qt yogurt container, 18 scoops pro mix, 6 perlite, 6 worm castings = 1 cu ft. Mixed up about 10 cu. ft.
Grabbed 8# bone meal, 5# blood meal, 10# kelp meal, 10# Dolomite lime, 5# jersey greensand. thinking that should be plenty for first flower. Following the recipe exactly, with the exception of the ewc tea you suggested.
Sorry for the confusion, I understand that it's an impossible comparison. Appreciate all the help!
Grabbed 8# bone meal, 5# blood meal, 10# kelp meal, 10# Dolomite lime, 5# jersey greensand. thinking that should be plenty for first flower. Following the recipe exactly, with the exception of the ewc tea you suggested.
Sorry for the confusion, I understand that it's an impossible comparison. Appreciate all the help!
Good. 30 liquid quarts is about one cubic foot.
Question... Is your dolomite lime powdered? Don't use pelletized dolomite. It won't work.
If it is pelletized, then dump one cup into the mix. That is your completed LC's mix.
At the same time you can dump in 1/2 cup dried blood, 1 cup bone meal and 1/2 cup kelp meal. Dump in a cup of Jersey Greensand too.
Wet the mix and food and give it about two to three weeks above 60 degrees F to get the bacteria started and thriving. Then plant two to four week old seedlings in the mix until harvest.
The worm casting tea is one cup worm casting to 5 gallons of water. Use a queen size knee high stocking for a tea bag and steep it for 24 hours. Also add a couple tablespoons of black strap molasses.
That's about as advanced as I would get the first go. If you have any problems, it's easy to correct. But I think you'll be fine.
Remember to set aside some plain LC's Mix to germinate your seeds in.
Burn1
Question... Is your dolomite lime powdered? Don't use pelletized dolomite. It won't work.
If it is pelletized, then dump one cup into the mix. That is your completed LC's mix.
At the same time you can dump in 1/2 cup dried blood, 1 cup bone meal and 1/2 cup kelp meal. Dump in a cup of Jersey Greensand too.
Wet the mix and food and give it about two to three weeks above 60 degrees F to get the bacteria started and thriving. Then plant two to four week old seedlings in the mix until harvest.
The worm casting tea is one cup worm casting to 5 gallons of water. Use a queen size knee high stocking for a tea bag and steep it for 24 hours. Also add a couple tablespoons of black strap molasses.
That's about as advanced as I would get the first go. If you have any problems, it's easy to correct. But I think you'll be fine.
Remember to set aside some plain LC's Mix to germinate your seeds in.
Burn1
Riddleme; I'm hoping I'm not contradicting anyone's instructions here. You mentioned that in your area, finding organic ingredients is difficult. I don't feel that there is any advantage in acquiring brands of the ingredients you mentioned which are certified/labeled organic.
I could buy all of those ingredients at the local feed & garden supply in a one horse town, except for the greensand.
I've never heard of kelp which is not organic. It is just harvested from the sea. At the feed store, it is sold as a supplement for horses and cattle so generally is much cheaper. I bought it by the 50 lb bag. There is no such thing as dolomite which is not organic. It is mined rock.
I suppose that it would be nice having organic blood & bone meal but there is not going to be much difference, if any, in your results.
Anyway, perhaps you can find ingredients locally.
If I can give you one tip, it would to be to mix in some oyster shell. This is also available at the feed supply and is called poultry grit It provides extra drainage and calcium in balance with the dolomite. (IME)
I could buy all of those ingredients at the local feed & garden supply in a one horse town, except for the greensand.
I've never heard of kelp which is not organic. It is just harvested from the sea. At the feed store, it is sold as a supplement for horses and cattle so generally is much cheaper. I bought it by the 50 lb bag. There is no such thing as dolomite which is not organic. It is mined rock.
I suppose that it would be nice having organic blood & bone meal but there is not going to be much difference, if any, in your results.
Anyway, perhaps you can find ingredients locally.
If I can give you one tip, it would to be to mix in some oyster shell. This is also available at the feed supply and is called poultry grit It provides extra drainage and calcium in balance with the dolomite. (IME)
RiddleMeThis
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Will definitely look into local sources. I live in a fairly major city so I may need to venture out a bit further. Ultimately I would like to reduce my overhead as much as possible.
At this point, like B1 said, just trying to get the ball rolling. Last of the ingredients will arrive in about a week, and seedlings won't be ready for transplant until mid January (hopefully... still finalizing some room renovations).
At this point, like B1 said, just trying to get the ball rolling. Last of the ingredients will arrive in about a week, and seedlings won't be ready for transplant until mid January (hopefully... still finalizing some room renovations).
RiddleMeThis
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And burn1, I purchased the fine powdered dolomite lime.
RiddleMeThis
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LC's Soilless Mix #2
Pro Mix BX (Mycocorrihizae + Biofungicide) 6 parts
Sunleaves Chunky Perlite 2 parts
Root Organics Big Worm Castings 2 parts
Greenway Biotech Powdered Dolomite Lime 1 cup/cu. ft.
Recipe #1
FF Happy Frog Steamed Bone Meal 1 cup/cu. ft.
Down to Earth Blood Meal ½ cup/cu. ft.
Neptune's Harvest Kelp Meal ½ cup/cu. ft.
Soil Mender Texas Greensand ½ cup/cu. ft.
Botanicare Liquid Karma 1 tbs./gal.
This is what I have/or have ordered,and is on the way.
Already mixed the PM and perlite, 3 bins containing 80% of the LC mix 2. The remaining 20% will be the EWC that will be added when they arrive next week(and dolomite lime). Three bins will contain 3 cubic feet of mix, that will be amended, and a 4th bin containing only the soilless mix, will be used for seedlings, and clones.
How am I doing?
I really hope I dont f this up... It literally seems too easy, too good to be true. Especially once I get the blumats set up.
Thank you Burn1 and everyone else who made these amazing resources available.
I plan on producing my own vermicompost to support the need for EWCs. Still researching the setups available. Kind of need something aesthetically pleasing, since the bin will be indoors, and likely around the kitchen. Have been thinking Worm Factory, layered trays. Seems easy enough... Any suggestions are most welcome.
Pro Mix BX (Mycocorrihizae + Biofungicide) 6 parts
Sunleaves Chunky Perlite 2 parts
Root Organics Big Worm Castings 2 parts
Greenway Biotech Powdered Dolomite Lime 1 cup/cu. ft.
Recipe #1
FF Happy Frog Steamed Bone Meal 1 cup/cu. ft.
Down to Earth Blood Meal ½ cup/cu. ft.
Neptune's Harvest Kelp Meal ½ cup/cu. ft.
Soil Mender Texas Greensand ½ cup/cu. ft.
Botanicare Liquid Karma 1 tbs./gal.
This is what I have/or have ordered,and is on the way.
Already mixed the PM and perlite, 3 bins containing 80% of the LC mix 2. The remaining 20% will be the EWC that will be added when they arrive next week(and dolomite lime). Three bins will contain 3 cubic feet of mix, that will be amended, and a 4th bin containing only the soilless mix, will be used for seedlings, and clones.
How am I doing?
I really hope I dont f this up... It literally seems too easy, too good to be true. Especially once I get the blumats set up.
Thank you Burn1 and everyone else who made these amazing resources available.
I plan on producing my own vermicompost to support the need for EWCs. Still researching the setups available. Kind of need something aesthetically pleasing, since the bin will be indoors, and likely around the kitchen. Have been thinking Worm Factory, layered trays. Seems easy enough... Any suggestions are most welcome.
Quick question is there magnesium in bat guano? I have a magnesium deficiency on one of my cheese plants I foliar fed epsom salts at 1 tspn per gallon. The new growth looks good but the effected leaves are getting worse it started with yellowing veins and now with brown spotting in the veins. Had the problem on two strains the kush cleared up but the affected leaves on the cheese are getting worse but hasn't spread to new growth. I'm using lc's mix 1 and recipe 3 just flipped to flower like 5 days ago. I'm using agricultural lime 30% calcium 3% magnesium it's what the hydro store had. So I wanted to know if their is magnesium in guano because I'm about to start the flower tea wich is every watering. Is their a sufficient amount of magnesium in the flowering guano tea or should I supplement with 1/4-1/2 tspn epsom salt per gallon? I think I'm lacking magnesium because of the agricultural lime only being 3% magnesium. I don't want to over apply magnesium and cause more problems either. Sorry for the long post.... Any suggestions appreciated
Did you mean "yellowing veins" or yellowing interveining? If yellowing veins it is more likely iron or N deficiency. This is more seen in other species. I believe yellowing veins in cannabis is rare but I stand to be corrected.
I would try watering with a slurry of 'good' EWC/vermicompost with black strap molasses. Here is a chart I found on Cannabis Knowledge which could help.
I would try watering with a slurry of 'good' EWC/vermicompost with black strap molasses. Here is a chart I found on Cannabis Knowledge which could help.
Yellow interveining. Is there enough magnesium in molasses that I could use it every water as a preventative measure for magnesium deficiency after I fix the problem? Im using earth juice hibrix molasses at 1tspn per gallon in my tea. As of right now in between my guano veg tea I'm using just plain water. So I do guano tea water water guano tea but will be switching to the flower guano tea every water here soon.
RiddleMeThis
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Well, I have LCS mix 2 with Recipe one composting now for about a week. Will not be transplanting for another 2.5 weeks minimum.
Few questions...
Am i OK letting this mix compost for more than 2 weeks?
I currently have 4-5 cu ft in 55 gal rubbermaids. Should I drill air holes for ventilation? I am getting in there and fluffing the mix up every few days, and ensuring it maintains moisture. Just not sure if the airflow is needed in the bin when its closed.
Few questions...
Am i OK letting this mix compost for more than 2 weeks?
I currently have 4-5 cu ft in 55 gal rubbermaids. Should I drill air holes for ventilation? I am getting in there and fluffing the mix up every few days, and ensuring it maintains moisture. Just not sure if the airflow is needed in the bin when its closed.
Biggobelly
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Waiting is good for me
Waiting is good for me
That's the way I have been doing it and my mix has no issues being in there for longer than 4 months. I throw in some ACT every now and again and fluff it up (4" bulb auger on my drill). It smells nice and rich. I do not have any air holes in my rubbermaid containers and I keep them covered unless I am mixing them around.
Waiting is good for me
That's the way I have been doing it and my mix has no issues being in there for longer than 4 months. I throw in some ACT every now and again and fluff it up (4" bulb auger on my drill). It smells nice and rich. I do not have any air holes in my rubbermaid containers and I keep them covered unless I am mixing them around.
Yes.
No. If you can, get another bin, just switch the mix from one bin to the other every few days. This gives the microherd oxygen. Oxygen dissolved in water will supply oxygen to the microherd after your plants are planted. I like to bubble my water. For me "water" is water, worm castings and black strap molasses.
Burn1
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Excellent suggestion, thank you! I have 6 37 gal bins, will work perfect
RiddleMeThis
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Also just started vermicomposting, so hopefully I'll have some nice castings to use by mid year. Diet rich in coffee and banana peels
Biggobelly
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My worms don't care much for banana peels, but go ape-shit for the banana itself. I put the peels in my long term compost pile.
