Organic Fanatic Collective

[Nugz]

Yo! First of all, thanks for the great info provided in this thread.

I would like to know if anyone has any tips on the best way to use bone meal. I would rather be using high phosporous bat guano but even though I'm in South America, still haven't been able to find it for sale anywhere, even being in the largest country of the continent. So bone meal it is.

This round is my first try using it, and I applied some bone meal + local bokashi on top of the dirt a few weeks before flowering, then again at the start of flowering and once again at week 4. Using 8L bags, applied about 4 full spoons every time.

Other than that they've been fed fish fertilizer, liquid biocompost fertilizer, liquid humus and some veggie ashes that I prepared thanks to the post I read here. Also a few weeks before flowering I applied 50ml of this Bioactive fish & molasses compost in each container.

But I'm still unsure if I used the bone meal the most proper way and at the most appropriate times. Any suggestions and reports on past experiences on using bone meal as a source of P for flowering would be truly appreciated.

Thanks,

Nugz

 

[Pimpslapped]

Heya Nugz, welcome aboard!

The way I understand it, bone meal is best mixed into the medium itself. It's a slow release fert. Personally I've been using roughly 1 - 2 tblsp/gal of soil.

Using pots, perhaps best way would be to prepare your 'flowering soil' beforehand, mix in the ingredients (bone meal, etc..) and wet it, let it set/cook for a week or two before you transplant into the new medium. I just repot my plants up to a larger pot size when they go into flowering, the soil added having a higher content of bone meal than used for veg.

 

[Suby]

Hey Nugz,

basically bone meal has to break down by bacterial action but it needs a composting, it makes itself quickly available like 0-20-5, 20 is a higher release type P source much like guano but guano makes for a good tea as bone meal does not.
What that means is there will be a heat phase as the soil biology goes nuts and feeds and composts and this can cook the roots.

At least that's how I think it goes, I might be wrong.

Are you growing outdoors?
If they are in containers just use it in your flowering soil mix and compost it.

Other than that they've been fed fish fertilizer, liquid biocompost fertilizer, liquid humus and some veggie ashes that I prepared thanks to the post I read here. Also a few weeks before flowering I applied 50ml of this Bioactive fish & molasses compost in each container.

that sounds awesome, from what I have been reading fish meals and liquid humus make for great fungal food.

Peace
S

 

[Nugz]

Heya Nugz, welcome aboard!

The way I understand it, bone meal is best mixed into the medium itself. It's a slow release fert. Personally I've been using roughly 1 - 2 tblsp/gal of soil.

Using pots, perhaps best way would be to prepare your 'flowering soil' beforehand, mix in the ingredients (bone meal, etc..) and wet it, let it set/cook for a week or two before you transplant into the new medium. I just repot my plants up to a larger pot size when they go into flowering, the soil added having a higher content of bone meal than used for veg.

Thanks for your responses!

They are in 8L grow bags, INDOOR, week 5 into flower, done feeding with bone meal for this round.

Not going to strat a thread cuz it's already late into flowering, but here is a little additional description of the grow:

I started from seeds at the beginning of April, about 15 varieties, mostly 2-3 of each kind, there is DP MK, KC Brazil, a few OG kush & diesel crosses from egbc, some of mota's work like tekilla, and a few crossed from happygirl.ca like NLxJFxSK, Shiskaberry x buddha, white widow x buddha, fem SK #1, some Mr. Med Man & early girl, and some local primo strains as well.

Due to extreme lack of time and resources the plants kept growing and growing a lot before put to flower... and I do not feel that I maximized my use of the bone meal, so next round, now that I have selected clones to play with, I will do as you suggested, mix it all in the medium and let it do its work for 2-3 weeks before transplant.

BTW, they were also foliared with líquid Quitosan w/ molasses fertilizer, liquid humus, biodigestor fertilizer and regular fish fertilizer during veg and a little up to the end of week 2 into 12/12.

Here is how they were May 1:




May 20:



July 15:




Here they are now:







Cant wait to start burning these babies!

 

[Suby]

Those look PHAT Nugz

S

 

[Guest]

nice freakin grow nugs wut up OFC haven't been here in a while still lookin good! just got me some blockhead seeds will soon post the grow as soon as i pop the seeds and as ya'll know it will be organic! till then see ya

 

[Guest]

here go's pics of my current organic grow

 

[jaykush]

look good buttcrack those are some bushes. going to be some killer organic nugs right there.

 

[Suby]

HOLLY SHIT

great looking girls there BC, those will be monsters.

Peace
S

 

[billyba79]

Awesome thread going here. keep it growing

 

[Guest]

Jaykush- thanks for the kind words and yes it'll be one big organic grow!

Suby- thank you to, for the kind remark, i owe alot to this thread, just this thread alone i learned, teas, fungul teas, soil and all kinds of fun stuff!

The strains are Ak-47 (recently brought back) purple kush, and hyndu kush x skunk#1 all in 7 gal grow bags i will be posting finsh pic's soon

Thanks OFC

 

[vonforne]

I have been neglecting my duties to the OFC.....my apologies.

Here is their feeding schedule and ingredients.

Every 5 days they receive a good drink of about 1/2 gallon of solution. they are on about week 4 of flowering.


5 TBS Indo guano(P)
1 TBS of Mexi guano(N)
1 TBS of K-mag natural (Minerals)
3 TBS of Rich Earth or Activator Humic ore (minerals)
2 handfuls of EWC
5 TBS of Molasses (Tree of Life)
1 handful of Mushroom compost (fungi)

this was added to a 5 gallon bucket of water and bubbled for 2 to 3 days

It is possible this is one of my last updates. I have been asked to discontinue my grows in preparation for my departure.

But to the OFC I shall return.

V

 

[ThaiPhoon]

Beautiful shots of your plants V!!

A shot of my organically fed Goldfinger. I have posted these in my grow diary as well, but I thought I'd put just one up in here...

I use bat guano tea and diluted urine now. My homemade extracts were giving me problems. I bet Ph, as I haven't got a meter...

 

[Smurf]

Nugz, looks like you have the bone meal sussed out, nice job mate!

Awesome garden you have there Butcrack, I've been thinking about using the bags for a while now.

Yeah you're ladies look beautiful v-man, boy your enclosure must be jam packed!

Nice gardening also ThaiPhoon! - Looks fine from where I am. Must check out your diary.

ALL you guys make organic gardening such a pleasure, excellent work fellas.

keep up the hard work
smurf

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Hey there peeps

New to making teas and only on my second one. I have a few Q's maybe you can help me with.

Once the tea has been bubbled for a few days and is nice and foamy how long will it store for?

Will the aerobic microbes die off if i stop bubbling?

Will the NPK of guanos, kelp liquid etc be increased by making a tea or is it just the chelating effect?

How diluted should i use for a foliar spray on seedlings?

This is my recipe for my current batch:

10 litres water
2 spades of homemade compost / mushroom compost
4 tbls spoons mollasses
150 mls liquid worm castings
150 mls liquid kelp (seasol)
100 mls fish emulsion (powerfeed)
50 mls liquid bat guano (P)

I plan on using this for clones just into flower for a good dose of N and for my other vegging plants.

 

[jaykush]

Once the tea has been bubbled for a few days and is nice and foamy how long will it store for? --- the quicker its used the better. you can store in the fridge for 24 hours.

Will the aerobic microbes die off if i stop bubbling? --- yes

Will the NPK of guanos, kelp liquid etc be increased by making a tea or is it just the chelating effect? --- they will not increase, what you put in is what you get.

How diluted should i use for a foliar spray on seedlings? --- dilute very low. specially for clones and seedlings.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Cool thanx jaykush.

I have also added some soy milk, raspberry cordial and urine for fun and removed the compost.

How long is it viable to keep the microbes alive and well ?

Awesome thread and soooo much to read

 

[Nugz]

Very nice bushes there, organic all the way!

 

[vonforne]

Keep it alive gang until I return.

See ya Suby, take care of the family.

V-man

 

[Suby]

Great looking plants Von,

I'll be watching for you brother

Suby

PS sorry I have been scarce lately, I've been taking a break and trying to get outside and enjoy what little remains of my summer.

Be well gang.