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Genghis Kush.
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In his book “The King of Nepal”, Joe PietriI talks about a load of hash that he had stashed in Nepal to be smuggled out at a later date. The hash dried out too much to be worth shipping. He says he mixed it with opium to soften it up and make it sellable. He claims this was most likely the only suitcase of Opiated Hash to be ever shipped to the US
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tstick
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Opiated Thai Sticks were real.
I heard the process to make them involved the rinse water used to clean out the pots that opium paste was made in....don't know how it was applied/dipped/sprayed/etc.....no idea. I know it takes a special opium pipe to smoke opium properly, but I can tell you that the effect of an opiated Thai Stick smoked in a joint was an unforgettable experience for me and I've been at it since 1975. And some might suggest that the best Thai weed would have that kind of effect, too....no. Thai weed was the best weed I've ever smoked....but an opiated Thai stick wasn't like weed....not by a long shot.
Anyone who says that they are a myth obviously never got in on any of them. They weren't an everyday thing. Just because you might have been a pot smoker back then, didn't have anything to do with getting opiated Thai sticks. They were very rare and you almost had to know someone who was in the Vietnam War to find them. I managed to get two of them in my entire life back in 1975. I've never had anything like them since.
I can't say that the method was "correct" in order for the opium to be vaporized or whatever, but it certainly worked to smoke some of it in a joint, regardless. You'd only know IF you had it. I did and I also know a few others who did and will tell you the same thing.
Nothing mythical about it. Opiated Thai Sticks were real.
I heard the process to make them involved the rinse water used to clean out the pots that opium paste was made in....don't know how it was applied/dipped/sprayed/etc.....no idea. I know it takes a special opium pipe to smoke opium properly, but I can tell you that the effect of an opiated Thai Stick smoked in a joint was an unforgettable experience for me and I've been at it since 1975. And some might suggest that the best Thai weed would have that kind of effect, too....no. Thai weed was the best weed I've ever smoked....but an opiated Thai stick wasn't like weed....not by a long shot.
Anyone who says that they are a myth obviously never got in on any of them. They weren't an everyday thing. Just because you might have been a pot smoker back then, didn't have anything to do with getting opiated Thai sticks. They were very rare and you almost had to know someone who was in the Vietnam War to find them. I managed to get two of them in my entire life back in 1975. I've never had anything like them since.
I can't say that the method was "correct" in order for the opium to be vaporized or whatever, but it certainly worked to smoke some of it in a joint, regardless. You'd only know IF you had it. I did and I also know a few others who did and will tell you the same thing.
Nothing mythical about it. Opiated Thai Sticks were real.
The meme of smoking opium and laying on the ground comes from Opium brokers adulterating the opium with opium ash which contains high levels of morphine .
Steven: The reasons for that stereotype are manifold, and, as with all stereotypes, they’re partly based on fact and partly on misunderstanding. During the heyday of the opium trade, raw opium exported by the British from India to China was purchased by Chinese brokers who then repackaged the product for sale to opium smokers within China. These brokers processed the raw opium into smoking opium, or chandu, and during this process they added impurities — the most common being opium ash — in the same way that drug cartels add nonessential ingredients to pure cocaine or heroin in order to boost their profits. Opium ash has a high morphine content, and adding it to pure opium not only increased the quantity of the product, it also made the high more numbing. So people with limited means who smoked low-quality opium cut with opium ash were more likely to lie around in a daze. And these were exactly the kind of smokers most often witnessed by Westerners living or traveling in China.
However, pure, good quality chandu smoked in moderation was energizing, both physically and mentally. So the effects really depended a lot on the kind of opium being smoked.
Steven: The reasons for that stereotype are manifold, and, as with all stereotypes, they’re partly based on fact and partly on misunderstanding. During the heyday of the opium trade, raw opium exported by the British from India to China was purchased by Chinese brokers who then repackaged the product for sale to opium smokers within China. These brokers processed the raw opium into smoking opium, or chandu, and during this process they added impurities — the most common being opium ash — in the same way that drug cartels add nonessential ingredients to pure cocaine or heroin in order to boost their profits. Opium ash has a high morphine content, and adding it to pure opium not only increased the quantity of the product, it also made the high more numbing. So people with limited means who smoked low-quality opium cut with opium ash were more likely to lie around in a daze. And these were exactly the kind of smokers most often witnessed by Westerners living or traveling in China.
However, pure, good quality chandu smoked in moderation was energizing, both physically and mentally. So the effects really depended a lot on the kind of opium being smoked.
BOEL brought that load in to maui "Papa Gradita Colitas", Came from Papanoa in Guerrero Mexico , also know as Acapulco gold or the Bolt in Hawaii , thats is also how Lightning Bolt Surfboards got there name Gerry Lopez was there when load came in held up a bud said it looked like a lighting bolt
they crossed an Afghan to it called it Maui Wowie to sell back it on mainland
tstick
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I can't really understand how people who never experienced opiated Thai sticks can argue that they were a myth or that is was a dream or whatever. While it's very true that not everyone got in on them, it doesn't mean that other people DID get in on them. Whatever stories or reasonings that have been attached to them, after the fact....like theories about HOW they were opiated...or WHY someone would want to opiate them...I've heard a few different ones. The validity of that stuff is somewhat questionable. However, I was there when opiated Thai Sticks showed up in my little town. I knew Vietnam War vets and Peace Corps workers who brought them back. They told us what the sticks were, but not the "how" or "why" about them. And nobody asked! It was just an opportunity to try a different type of high. We didn't care about any of the background information. There were no connoisseurs or anything like that. There were just some people who got lucky to be included on the rare experience.
It would be really cool to try and make some opiated Thai sticks.
It would be really cool to try and make some opiated Thai sticks.
Persianfarmer
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the issue is as you have said ,
its always second hand experience , told by someone else , to the person who posts about it , or third hand ,
there is no single person who was where thai sticks were being made , who says yes i saw this happening ,
no smuggler who said , yes i moved a lot of that stuff ,
no thai people who said , yes we made those ,
no busts of any thai sticks with opium on them ,
its almost like it never happened , lol ...
really if anyone who deals in facts read this thread ,
and saw the lack of evidence for opiated thai sticks ,
it would be clear which way they would sway to believing...
as has been said by many ,, some folks used opium and cannabis together ,
but the cannabis was just a vehicle in this combination , its potency , quality , etc would have been negated by the opium ,
so why use the very best, and thai sticks were the very best around ,
so strong in fact , that some people managed to convince others they were laced with opium , the proof of that is in this thread , its just there was no opium on them ... the reasons for that are also in these pages ,
no need to try to convince anyone of your second or third hand experiences , using no evidence , its not happening ....
