huh??Sure events in history have only one line ,, obviously
huh??Sure events in history have only one line ,, obviously
I'm sorry but I'm getting confused about your standpoint.im not sure you understand how production works ,
folks tend to produce lots ,
its like starting a factory , why start one and only produce a small portion ,
you go all out ,
im quite familiar with how this sort of stuff works as ive been a part of the trade most of my life ....
there are well respected members of the community claiming to have been there during the era of thai stick production ,
as i mentioned already ,, on asking the growers , they were told it was an urban myth ,
do you discount their first hand experience , with boots on the ground , on the spot , at the time , asking the folks doing it ????
sam skunkman , on this forum , said those very words ...
no , your interpretation is a little messed up mate ,I'm sorry but I'm getting confused about your standpoint.
Firstly you claimed that it was never produced.
Then you claimed that it was even impossible to produce because the regions were 100's of miles apart.
Then you claimed it was impossible to consume it that way.
This was all disproven.
Now you say that it was possible that it was produced but never exported.
This while respected community members claiming they actually scored some.
Don't know what you experienced first hand but swapping your standpoint around with every other post isn't contributing much.
Cheers
Nice, I learned what colitas are .i dunno why they refer to it as udorn ,
its udonthani , which translates to north town ...
sometimes its hard to hear quite what thai people say ,
they are often soft spoken , and some letters merge together ,
like k and g , t and s , its hard to hear exactly what they have said ,
i always try go get the spelling in english some how , then try to pronounce with their accent ,
if i dont hear it properly in the first place that is ...
i grow a thai/chinese root that is similar to ginger , lesser ginger ,
its spelt krachai , but its more a g at the beginning than a k , a little of both ,
takes a little to pronounce properly ,,
gunja , aka kuncha , is much the same sort of thing ...
Mike Ferguson first traveled to Udorn, Thailand during the Vietnam War. With a Thai dictionary and sign language, he told a cab driver that he was a tropical agriculture graduate student interested in seeing a ganja farm. In one village near Udorn, his driver put out the call and everyone scattered. Within minutes, villagers returned with bags and bags of Thai sticks. “It was a cottage industry. They all did it, and it cost about three dollars a kilo!” Ferguson put the load in custom-built boxes, labeled them scientific equipment, and shipped them back to Hawaii air freight. Although Ferguson thought he was playing “Moscow Rules,” surfer scammer Craig Williams heard through the grapevine that Ferguson had just put together another load, and contacted him. Ferguson knew of Williams because he’d a made a name for himself by successfully sailing the first load of Papa Grande’s colitas to Oahu. At the time, the seedless Mexican buds, made famous by the Eagles’ hit song “Hotel California” (1974), were so much stronger than any other pot in Hawaii that the Honolulu Advertiser warned that a new “superpot” had invaded the islands. #fergy#udorn#potpioneers
yea there is some good information in that book ,Nice, I learned what colitas are .
No need to apologise Cvh and I agree facts matter.Seeing the facts that were posted and everyone seems to be in agreeings in the thread that it could have existed on a (very) small scale.
I personally think then that your claims might be true Hempy that you had Opiated Thai Sticks in the past. You also said if I remember correctly that you only managed to score it a few times. This would also be in line with what everyone say's.
My apologies if I ever came across if I doubted you Hempy. I just wanted to get the facts first.
Cheers
they pushed the growers out of thailand at the request of the usa , i dont know if they paid them to do it via some economic benefits , or how they did , but its what they did ,Why didn't the Surfer smuggles continue to import Thai sticks in after 83 in the US and here if the bulk of it came through them ?
That tells me the Bulk of the imports came out of the Golden Triangle.