- Opiated Thai Sticks: Myth or Truth? -

[chilliwilli]

the same day because the darker it becomes, the weaker the opium becomes.

Ah now its the later stuff thats getting weak, not the early water.

 

[@hempy]

I know they make cuts on the bulb and then collect the sap and going from the info I have seen on it so far it's collected the same day because the darker it becomes, the weaker the opium becomes.

If you're going to quote it, at lest quote it in full, mate, so it makes sense.

My sauce of info of information for that quote is here, go to 33m.



Any further complaints, please feel free to contact the village girl or film reporter.

 

[Cvh]

It would be great if someone could explain if this is even possible? Is there any point in the opium making process that has opium suspended in water, and is it even possible any meaningful quantity will then be infused in the cannabis by dipping or soaking?

I posted a recipe in one the starting pages of this thread and added my opinion too after looking into this process and if early water even can exist. But again that's my opinion on reading that recipe.

You can find the post here. (The recipe is in the quote in that post)

Post in thread '- Opiated Thai Sticks: Myth or Truth? -' https://www.icmag.com/threads/opiated-thai-sticks-myth-or-truth.374015/post-12234203

 

[Cvh]

In the following documentary they show the Opium production near the Thai, Burma and Laos border. They say that 80% of the Opium was produced in this area what's called the Golden Triangle.

Also they clearly say and also show that poppies isn't the only thing cultivated here in this region. They also grew cannabis (It's around past 30 mins into the video).

Isn't this region also know for Cannabis production? I read a lot in this thread about Laos cannabis production.

I think this documentary shows that poppies and cannabis have been grow side by side in the northern region in Thailand near the Burma and Laos border.

 

[Donald Mallard]

In the following documentary they show the Opium production near the Thai, Burma and Laos border. They say that 80% of the Opium was produced in this area what's called the Golden Triangle.

Also they clearly say and also show that poppies isn't the only thing cultivated here in this region. They also grew cannabis (It's around past 30 mins into the video).

Isn't this region also know for Cannabis production? I read a lot in this thread about Laos cannabis production.

I think this documentary shows that poppies and cannabis have been grow side by side in the northern region in Thailand near the Burma and Laos border.

I think it was a little misleading him calling what he showed a forest ,
it was likely a few plants , since he showed poppy fields , it wouldnt have been a problem to show a field of cannabis , so i dont think thats what it was there ,
having said that ,, sure they grow cannabis there , but they are not known for growing thai stick for export , thats what the north eastern area bordering on Laos is famous for ,
the northern part was famous for poppies ...
also , that cannabis was in Burma , not Thailand ...

 

[Cvh]

In the following documentary they show people smoking Opium that they mixed with some kind of tobacco like plant and smoke it into a (bamboo) pipe.

Strange, I didn't knew Opium could be smoked like that. I always thought that it would require some kind of special heating/vaporising process in a specific opium pipe.

 

[yesum]

When a country makes cannabis legal it is because they have exhausted the profit and/or control of it's illegality and now want to corner the market or profit with its legality. It has nothing to do with "for the people". In Canada they pseudo legalized and at the same time doubled the penalties. It still isn't truly legal,same as alcohol,you still need their permission.

When politicians do anything it is for their own self interest first of all, and maybe solely for that. The career politicians anyways. The others do not last.

 

[Rgd]

never had any of what people speak of as opiated

but

you just can’t add ANY shit [especially liquid] to [incredibly] nicely grown buds and not know something is up visually..

also..they were tiny individual perfect buds..perfectrly tied with some organic "thread"

 

[@hempy]

never had any of what people speak of as opiated

but

you just can’t add ANY shit [especially liquid] to [incredibly] nicely grown buds and not know something is up visually..

also..they were tiny individual perfect buds..perfectrly tied with some organic "thread"

Most of the Thai imports were not tied to a stick, the bulk of it was compressed.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Most of the Thai imports were not tied to a stick, the bulk of it was compressed.

That may depend on where you are or were perhaps, we had sticks then loose Golden bud and the only compressed stuff came in the early 90s and is the same as the modern Laos brick weed

 

[Donald Mallard]

That may depend on where you are or were perhaps, we had sticks then loose Golden bud and the only compressed stuff came in the early 90s and is the same as the modern Laos brick weed

That compressed stuff we got wasnt great
I sweated it a little and it brought some life back into it and was better and then it was a little similar to thai we had before but not on the same level.
Everyone called it wheat bix because an ounce looked the size and shape of a wheat box
.

 

[@hempy]

The first Thai I bought was tied to a stick in 79, after that prity much all of it until the imports stopped was compressed.

Even Steve DeAngelo says the last good Thai that he saw come in around 82 that they called Eagle Thai was not on a stick.

 

[Donald Mallard]

The last loose Golden thai we got was 85 and was even better than the Thai sticks, primo stuff indeed..

 

[LostTribe]

Just like old times! Some things never change but seems to me things are more civil these days good to see everyone getting along again. LOL Best LT

 

[mexcurandero420]

1977 no mention about Thai sticks being opiaten.

 

[@hempy]

Yet at the same time period, this guy that went to Thailand reported that slathering opium onto pot was standard Thai practice.

Have you heard of Yen Gao or Chandoo ?

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[Donald Mallard]

second hand at least experience ,
this guy doesnt know , and his friend did or didnt tell him this ,
either way , its bullshit ,
like i said , ive heard so many bullshit stories , they are rife in this industry,
i can smell them a mile away...
ive probably heard more of them than most , and i still hear them even today ...

do u hear some of the stories about australia from folks in foreign countries??
exotic places tend to attract wild stories from folks , who , i guess think others will believe ,
because they know no better ,
this was particularly true back in the days of early visitations by westerners to new places ...

dont believe anything you hear or read , and only half of what you see ,
seems to be a rule to live by ....

 

[@hempy]

Especially what is being posted on forums, right ?

These opiate Thai sticks were before your time, Wally, and just because you didn't see them don't mean they did not exist.

I saw and smoked them.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Especially what is being posted on forums, right ?

These opiate Thai sticks were before your time, Wally, and just because you didn't see them don't mean they did not exist.

I saw and smoked them.

sometimes especially ,
some folks dont know any better and are just telling stories they have heard ,
a bit like that one where nevil met the haze brothers etc etc ,

and it seems they were before the time of anyone i have spoken too with experience of the place (and despite their age) , the products etc , im drawing from not just my experiences, myself and a bunch of others have been interested enough to do some research and ask folks ,
folks who were there , folks who dealt with the product extensively ,
folks who asked around where thai stick was being grown ,
smugglers , dealers , hippies , u name it ... not just reading from google results ...

i definitely believe u believe this ,
i dont know what you were toking , but just the fact that they were not even the same size as thai sticks puts things into question ..

if you first saw thai sticks in 79 and i saw them in 81 ,
thats not a huge variance in time really ....

 

[Chi13]

Especially what is being posted on forums, right ?

These opiate Thai sticks were before your time, Wally, and just because you didn't see them don't mean they did not exist.

I saw and smoked them.

Nothing you've posted has changed my mind at all. Thanks for the opium vids you and cvh posted though. They were interesting.

Just because opium and cannabis were produced in the same country does not mean that exported sticks were dipped in opium. Seeing the process makes me think this is even less likely.

Opium is and was more expensive so why waste some on sticks that are already the most marketable cannabis in the West.
None of the smugglers (who've come out) say this was happening, nor do the Thai's.
No evidence in seizures either.
No one has demonstrated if dipping sticks in this liquid would actually get you an opium high.

It's a cannabis myth. I know you think you smoked them, but you had no way of knowing other than your dealer told you.