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LostTribe

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Today is day 53 of 11/13 and the Purple Haze is looking better the pistils are fat and nice looking. They have a sort of flat end to them they are so fat! They are coming on nicely too and better than was expected.

My POTH male is dropping pollen on 10/14 now so I need to figure out how I am going to try to collect pollen off of him. I think I am going to get a rubber maid and put the pot inside of it and then shake him down good once a bunch of flowers open up then try to collect from there.

Didnt have time to get more pics yet during lights on so maybe tomorrow or this weekend. The zamaldelica is bulking up now too noticeably and the scent is a bit different now hard to say but sweeter still earthy and hint of pistachios still but different than before and its looking like it will be done in a few weeks or so but probably around the end of the year!

I kept a cut off the Zam but might let it go as I still have most of a pack left. I have been thinking about the Panama and maybe another PH#5 as the cutting is progressing nicely and is dark green. Not sure I will have time to finish another PH#5 before the warm summer though.....
 

seeded

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Sounds like the garden is doing great. I can't wait for the pics :)

One word of advice though, never let go of a cut until you're forced to. That zamaldelica could be a 1/1000 plant that only reveals its true potential a month into curing and fistful of seed or not if it's a special plant you're gonna kick yourself daily for letting it go.
 

3rdEye

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I think your plant looks decent for the first run and your relative inexperience with soil. Sativas can be pushed by lots of nitrogen, but that does can prolong flowering by a significant amount and end up with lots of "clawing".
Nice work. :)
 

LostTribe

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I think your plant looks decent for the first run and your relative inexperience with soil. Sativas can be pushed by lots of nitrogen, but that does can prolong flowering by a significant amount and end up with lots of "clawing".
Nice work. :)

Thanks for the kind words brother! I am experiencing a bit of clawing at the moment also. The mix is definitely hot. I am also guilty of overwatering. The cutting looks nice and dark green however. Next time I will run these in peat/perlite with just a wee bit of amendments. Then I can slowly add some if they start to show problems.

I have grown veggies outdoors with little to no problems but no MJ except seedlings prior to transplant for over a decade. Overwatering seems to be my main fault combined with a hot mix.....still only water but none today. Will update pics by saturday just really swamped the last week or so....but there is progress with the pistils showing rapidly now so I am stoked and this PH#5 will come thru....

The zamaldelica was messed up early on too but is showing nice tall trichomes and a delicious aroma which is turning to sweet carrot away from the pistachio smell I was getting 2 weeks ago.
 

LostTribe

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Purple Haze #5

Day 55 of 11/13
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was hard to focus will try better next time....
LT
 

LostTribe

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DAY 59 Dudes! on 11/13!
Watered with the following today as plants pots were light.

1 gallon RO
8 drops Superthrive
5ml/gallon cal mag+ (upped ro from 0 to 220ppm)
5ml/gallon Liquid karma
1/2 tsp EJ high brix molasses
Ph 6.9
PPM 330

Runoff is much better now 600ppm and ph was 6.4 on this one. Plant looks worse overall since I started flushing. I feel the need to give light to mild bloom fertilizer 1 time this week probably around 6-800 ppm and higher ph probably like 7.2 to get it up a bit more.

LT
 

dubi

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Hi LostTribe,

Your haze is showing nutrient deficiencies in the lower part and overfeeding in the upper (leaf clawing). As we comment in the growing tips of the Oldtimer's Haze description, we don't recommend to force the pure hazes too much up and down with liquid fertilizers, especially if you are not experienced with growing tropical sativas indoors in soil.

The best way to mature properly Haze indoors is from clone, to avoid the typical excessive stretching when growing tropical sativas indoors from seed.

Secondly, it's better to grow them in soil (with correct ph between 6.5-6.8, correct aireation, and not heavily overfeeded) and let them grow at their own rhythm without pushing them too much with liquid ferts. Use high quality water with correct ph and if you add nutrients then make sure they are in the correct ph range.

Thirdly, we recommend to start to flower Haze indoor plants/clones in small pots until the early flowering stretching is over, only then transplant to final pot. That's a good way to control their size, and the plants will have plenty of nutrients after the transplant to face the rest of the flowering, with good health, with their size under control and without nutrient block outs.

If i was in your case, i would transplant your haze to a bigger pot with high quality soil mix and only water her with rain/destiled water (maybe add only a bit of rhizotonic in the first 2 waterings after the transplant) until the plant naturally recovers the health.
 

LostTribe

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Hi LostTribe,

Your haze is showing nutrient deficiencies in the lower part and overfeeding in the upper (leaf clawing). As we comment in the growing tips of the Oldtimer's Haze description, we don't recommend to force the pure hazes too much up and down with liquid fertilizers, especially if you are not experienced with growing tropical sativas indoors in soil.

The best way to mature properly Haze indoors is from clone, to avoid the typical excessive stretching when growing tropical sativas indoors from seed.

Secondly, it's better to grow them in soil (with correct ph between 6.5-6.8, correct aireation, and not heavily overfeeded) and let them grow at their own rhythm without pushing them too much with liquid ferts. Use high quality water with correct ph and if you add nutrients then make sure they are in the correct ph range.

Thirdly, we recommend to start to flower Haze indoor plants/clones in small pots until the early flowering stretching is over, only then transplant to final pot. That's a good way to control their size, and the plants will have plenty of nutrients after the transplant to face the rest of the flowering, with good health, with their size under control and without nutrient block outs.

If i was in your case, i would transplant your haze to a bigger pot with high quality soil mix and only water her with rain/destiled water (maybe add only a bit of rhizotonic in the first 2 waterings after the transplant) until the plant naturally recovers the health.

I have FF ocean forest and peat moss. I also have EWC, perlite, bone meal, blood meal and lime. Suggestions?
 
D

Dr.Suess

Why don't you give them the water/feed at the correct pH? Have I missed something?
 

LostTribe

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Up potted my PH#5 clone today 40/60 Ocean forest/peat moss and a handful of perlite. Watered everything with a tad bit of RO at 6.5 ph.

The Zamaldelica is full of seed. Most probably hit with my Purple Haze male pollen. oh well atleast I have some Purple Zam-Hazadelic! I also snipped a joints worth off the Zamaldelica for a test puff. 63 days 11/13 on the sativa's.
 

stoney917

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I had it long enough ... Finally did it... Pulled these out the vault today ... I can't really justify lettin them take up to much real estate here so I only popped 4 of them now.., I'll probably get 3other seed runs in in the room with these guys still going.. Lol...


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LostTribe

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Day 67 of 11/13.....

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A few hairs are red indicating they were pollinated by the PHaze male.
 

SGS

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Nice thread! I have 2 seeds of Oldtimer's Purple Haze ,, the originals not from ACE seeds... the seeds are at least 5 yrs old that's when I got them.. I have no idea how old they were before that... I need to plant them soon and see whats there. I will post in here if you don't mind.. I will start them soon and post up if they sprout or not.

SGS
 

LostTribe

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Nice thread! I have 2 seeds of Oldtimer's Purple Haze ,, the originals not from ACE seeds... the seeds are at least 5 yrs old that's when I got them.. I have no idea how old they were before that... I need to plant them soon and see whats there. I will post in here if you don't mind.. I will start them soon and post up if they sprout or not.

SGS

Once they pop they can't stop!

Was checking my day count which began last day of october so that puts the Old-timers Purple Haze at 74 days of 11/13 today. I have a lot of white hairs going strong now but not much in the way of calyx growth other than the few that are pollinated.

I am however beginning to get purple in some of the seeded calyxes around the edges. There are tiny trichomes on the seeded calyx's also but no apparent detectable terpene content yet. I have been feeding ec .63 and ph of 6.6 for the past 2 weeks.

At this point I dont expect that they will go as long as 19 weeks but sort of seems like they will go 16 or so at this point. The colas are filling in a lot more since the last pics. I have been very busy recently but will try to update with pics soon.

I am enjoying the GT leaning Zamaldelica right now though but know I need to let it cure for a bit. Its only been about a week since dried but the Zam turned out better than expected although I hope to find a Zamal leaning pheno once I get a chance to pop more beans. For now the experience with these Pure Sativa's has turned out to be a nice re introduction to growing in soil.

Thanks for stopping in!
LT
 

LostTribe

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I believe today is day 77 actually of 11/13 on the OT Purple Haze. Today I was happy to finally find a very nice spicy incense smell coming from her! It smells exactly like some kali mist a good friend gave me a while back. He took his 100 days or so. It was much denser and larger yielding than this. I am hoping that she will really get moving who knows maybe that cutting was actually OTH.

I dont plan on taking her down anywhere near day 100 though as I am just barely getting resin production and expect this one to go minimum 120.....only time will tell. Still feeding only .6ec and 6.6ph. Lower calyxes are showing dark purple tips! Love the smell and enjoying following her progress.

The Zamaldelica is very strong. Going to have to cure it a lot more. Its sort of cloudy and defiantly need of a warning for operating heavy machinery!
 

GoatCheese

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I believe today is day 77 actually of 11/13 on the OT Purple Haze. Today I was happy to finally find a very nice spicy incense smell coming from her! It smells exactly like some kali mist a good friend gave me a while back. He took his 100 days or so. It was much denser and larger yielding than this. I am hoping that she will really get moving who knows maybe that cutting was actually OTH.

I dont plan on taking her down anywhere near day 100 though as I am just barely getting resin production and expect this one to go minimum 120.....only time will tell. Still feeding only .6ec and 6.6ph. Lower calyxes are showing dark purple tips! Love the smell and enjoying following her progress.

The Zamaldelica is very strong. Going to have to cure it a lot more. Its sort of cloudy and defiantly need of a warning for operating heavy machinery!


You got to make seeds with that incensey girl. I hope i find similar Haze from my seeds, only a male ..but few nice incensey girls wouldn't do any harm either.


Since you have those C99 seeds going,and i read you're thinkng about buying soo more, how about finding a nice male and mating C99 with this Haze lady. But yuo were prolly alraedy planing this, ay.:)


Lets see some more Haze pics!
 

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