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dubi

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Sure OfCourse! Finish them first from seed if you have the chance.

If the space in your greenhouse allows it, i would recommend you to repot them when the stretching is over, or at least full up their current pots with soil.

Moved 5 OTH into the greenhouse a few weeks ago. They aren't sexually stable yet but the clones took and I only have so much space. I know Dubi recommends culling the seedlings and growing from clone in order to shave 2-3 weeks off of the flowering time but I always finish out my seeds.

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Sure OfCourse! Finish them first from seed if you have the chance.

If the space in your greenhouse allows it, i would recommend you to repot them when the stretching is over, or at least full up their current pots with soil.


Thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it. I am expecting quite a learning curve with this run and want to do whatever I can to give the strain what it needs to express itself fully.



The plan is to move them into 2 gallon or 3.5 gallon pots depending on size during transplant. Do you think that is enough or should I shoot for 5 gallon pots?
 

rizraz

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My first indoor Oldtimer's haze run with the purple type we found a couple years back. Normally we get one a year in the greenhouse but I finally have enough space and ceiling height to let one do whatever it wanted indoors. Just wanted to share my results.

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My first indoor Oldtimer's haze run with the purple type we found a couple years back. Normally we get one a year in the greenhouse but I finally have enough space and ceiling height to let one do whatever it wanted indoors. Just wanted to share my results.

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What do you feed a thin bladed haze like that?

I always seem to have a lot of trouble with narrow leaf strains. It's always either too much or too little with them.
 

acespicoli

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equally impressed by panama red & ot haze, lemon zamal

maybe even more so that your san pedro flowered :) impressive old album
 

rizraz

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Hey thanks for the questions. I grew her under a Next Light Mega. I use a living soil, in this case I did have to add some Roots uprising grow as a top dressing with an additional couple of scoops of compost.
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Hey thanks for the questions. I grew her under a Next Light Mega. I use a living soil, in this case I did have to add some Roots uprising grow as a top dressing with an additional couple of scoops of compost.

Looks like a cool light. I’ve got an older school 600w LED that I’ve never tried. Maybe I can put it to use this winter while I go seed hunting for next years outdoor crops. Whatever you’ve done...she looks fully mature and happy for indoors.
 

rizraz

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I love Next Light. I think they're really cool people. I must admit I think the HLG v600 is likely a better light for cheaper but I already had four Next Lights so here we are. I intend to replace all my lights with LEDs over the next year or so.

The 600 repecs are on sale right now down from 850 to 720 (assuming dollars as the currency.)
 
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nepalnt21

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from skimming this thread again, it seems that although the purple expressions add a tiny bit of introspection, this may add a level of trippiness?

is that accurate? and is this also true of the purple vs green honduras hazes?

and are the trippy selections of oth and hond. haze more psychedelic than other ace sativas?

i think dubi mentioned the panama hazes can get pretty deeply introspective and psychedelic (compared to purple oth), but what makes oth different than some of the more discussed psychedelic varieties (gt, zam, malawi, etc.) ?

and how does the high from the clear green selections of oth compare to the clear expressions of like bangi haze, ethiopia, congo, etc (or other ace sativas that are considered "clear" highs)

thanks for any and all info, i like to take detailed notes in my head and build an effects map of the different strains
 

rizraz

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from skimming this thread again, it seems that although the purple expressions add a tiny bit of introspection, this may add a level of trippiness?

is that accurate? and is this also true of the purple vs green honduras hazes?

and are the trippy selections of oth and hond. haze more psychedelic than other ace sativas?

i think dubi mentioned the panama hazes can get pretty deeply introspective and psychedelic (compared to purple oth), but what makes oth different than some of the more discussed psychedelic varieties (gt, zam, malawi, etc.) ?

and how does the high from the clear green selections of oth compare to the clear expressions of like bangi haze, ethiopia, congo, etc (or other ace sativas that are considered "clear" highs)

thanks for any and all info, i like to take detailed notes in my head and build an effects map of the different strains

Hey thanks for the interesting question. I'm not sure if the purple is linked to trippy highs. I think on the little bit of work I've done with Honduras seems like my greens are less trippy than my purples. I don't think trippy effect is actually linked to color displays however just coincidence. If you're looking for the most trippy strain I think something like "Malawi x PCK # 47 purple pheno x New Killer Malawi fem' from Ace's RnD will be killer. That Malawi in general is stupid strong with a heavy side of visual type effects.
 
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nepalnt21

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i remember reading somewhere about one of the malawi pck crosses being very strong, was it violeta?

anyway, thanks for the reply. some ppl apparently don't like the purple varieties of some strains, like it might add a bit of unwanted heaviness to clear-minded sativas, i think.
 

dubi

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Lovely Purple Haze pheno rizraz :smoke: Excellent results for indoor growing, perfectly healthy and expressed, she speaks about your understanding of the plant and your gardening skills ;)


My first indoor Oldtimer's haze run with the purple type we found a couple years back. Normally we get one a year in the greenhouse but I finally have enough space and ceiling height to let one do whatever it wanted indoors. Just wanted to share my results.

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dubi

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Hi nepalnt21,

I'm not sure psychedelic is the right word to describe Oldtimer's Haze effects, i find it very uplifting, energetic, expands your senses but not in a psychedelic way, more like 'feeling more alive', the green ones are pure euphoria, purple ones more inwards psychologically speaking ... but they are not dark like Nevil's Haze hybrids can be for many .... the high is non ceiling with a complete clean after-effect.

Panama Haze is indeed the Oldtimer's Haze hybrid i find more psychedelic, the rest we currently offer: Haze x Kali China, Green Honduras Haze, Purple Honduras Haze, Purple Pakistani Haze and even Purple Haze x Malawi are very Oldtimer's Haze dominant, also for the effect, but much stronger.
 

JockBudman

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Just had to say that ah tried a quick dried tester of the OT Haze I just chopped about an hour ago, an so far this is just brilliant. It's what weed is meant to be like - euphoric, gentle on the mind and just making me love cleaning and cooking, like vapeable MDMA.

Praise be to ace :biglaugh: ah thought the zamaldelica was the pinnacle - an the trippy element is definitely great fun - but this is something else.

No cure, not fully dry and still hitting like the best I've ever had. Rest of the pack is gettin open pollinated asap.
 

dubi

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Glad you liked so much your first experience with Oldimer's Haze JockBudman :) It can only improve after a good curing.

Just read in another thread that you rate Oldtimer's Haze, Panama and Zamaldelica as your favorite strains from this year ;)
Very happy to hear that, your feedback is much appreciated!
 

Dr.King

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Very nice purple haze OTH indeed. I think that's the big difference that most people don't understand about the OTH line is that there is so many different lines within that strain you can find but it just takes so long to grow out. The trippy pheno I got over 10 years ago was the golden pheno people look for which is a more Colombian pheno. After a 6 month cure that thing is straight fire. I've heard people say it's about 10% or less find rate. I was very lucky and was not keeping clones at the time. Probably just like the purple haze there is more than likely a special gem that's less than 10% within it's genetics pool. Seems like the first of the genetic pools have the rare gems which is where all the base genetics all come from. Which is why only growing 5 or 10 only shows a very small amount of the pool and not what one may be looking for in there high. Just my opinion. Happy growing all.
 

JockBudman

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Glad you liked so much your first experience with Oldimer's Haze JockBudman :) It can only improve after a good curing.

Just read in another thread that you rate Oldtimer's Haze, Panama and Zamaldelica as your favorite strains from this year ;)
Very happy to hear that, your feedback is much appreciated!

Nae bother mate :smoke: it's all your work so thanks to you guys at ace.

It's clear from this year, that landrace or heirloom pure sativas are the best high for ma tastes so no doubt ah'll be pickin up more in future. So far ah have Honduras, Panama, zamaldelica f2s ah made myself OT Haze an tropical mix which will likely be next year's sativa summer grow.

Other than you guys, the only other place for these things are the real seed company guys. Which is why ah appreciate that you still stock regs of most lines - let's folk chuck an f2 hack from a pack or two an keep the lines goin in a pureish form. God forbid anything happens to Ace seeds but we need tae be keepin these sats pure.

The importance was highlighted the other night when ah vaped a wee bit of female seeds grapefruit after the haze. Grapefruit was ma go to sativa for years but now it's mud in comparison - the high isn't as clear or as motivatin an there's too many stoners out there who will be like I was an think grapefruit, c99 etc are sativas when they're not even close tae the haze.

Haze is haze an old timers is the best of the haze - everythin else is just weed :moon::laughing:
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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I can tell you emphatically that the POTH x Malawi is the real deal!

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Smoked one toke of the non cured sample. Wow! This shit is going to be stellar with a good cure. And, thanks dubi. Even though I’ve got most of that monster plant in jars (3 x 1 gallon). There’s a tiny bud here or there in my living room and all I can smell is rotten and fermented blackberries. It’s actually ridiculous. My gal smelled it in my car. So did my kids. It’s like everywhere.
 
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