I think it's smoke. The flag is on fire, happened after a war protest in Portland.
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Occupy Wall Street: Not on major media but worth watching!
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maybe he was trying to extinguish.
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Is this what you mean by organic fresh shit?
why is there always one asshole in the crowd? and why is there always another asshole pointing a camera at him? i bet that guys mom is so proud ..... protest i am cool with, out and out stupid, not so much.
and yeah i understand he has rights and all that shit ..... but what is the point? does anyone think this tard did anything positive? one guy who was on the fence on the whole issue will see that pic and say fuck those guys out there protesting ........... or beavis and butthead will show up to join the movement. just sayin' the guy aint the best poster child
Damn you are in denial, I guess that explains why you put the onus on the consumer and not the conmen.
Your friend is not your friend, he knew a fixed rate was best yet he tried to fuck you over. Thats right even your "friend" tried to pull a fast one on you... That a fixed was harder for him to do shows you how the industry was a scam from the top down.
When the shit hit the fan in the mortgage industry I got some new coworkers. Some even had their own bizz before.
They were some of the biggest pieces of shit I have ever met, and I have known a lot of shit. Total fucking slimeballs. White collar criminals.
not really. It is more about ending their loopholes which allow them to pay nothing. Also ending the Bush Tax cuts, and going back to Clinton's Pay as you go, isn't really raising taxes, it is just ending a Bush Loophole he made for his Cronies.
Step 1. add term limits to all public offices, and end the reign of the career politician. aka the corporate puppet. when this happens the country can start to turn around. Until then public office will just be one more thing for sale.
It is more important to end loop holes, bad bureaucracies, bad regulations, and subsidization, than to raise taxes which would still have loop holes set up to avoid those taxes. Then to cut debt logical sacrifice must be made first. cutting the EPA and teachers unions isn't the answer, that's for sure. focus on the big spenders like the Pentagon, and the 8 federal police forces. It isn't that I love public education, it is just that education is a drop in the bucket compared to military, and paramilitary private contractors. the Pentagon has had Billions go missing with no one held accountable.
A small government that can do nothing for the business world is not something a crooked business man would want to buy control of, nor would the public servant be tempted to sell his small amount of power.
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i am in denial ? if you look at my posts i don't think i ever layed the blame at the consumers feet. is there anyone out there that actually trusted banks before the collapse? my point is proven out by simple math (i will type it slow this time) ....... if you can't afford something, you can't afford it and it is not anyone else's "civic duty" to explain to me or you what we can or can't afford. i went through the public education system back when they told you to live within your means. the message changed at some point to "more credit cards are good for you ... trust us", and i just kept running the math i had already learned. while a lot of good people i know were going into debt over their heads i was asking them "how the fuck can you afford this?" and they were all saying "ohhh dude the bank is my friend" ....... looks like they should have run the math.
as far as my friend goes ....... yes he did tell me i should do the ARM ( that is what every single broker out there was selling at the time) but when i asked him too he got me what i wanted. you sound like the guy bitching and moaning about the price of the car you just bought with money you don't have and blaming the salesman (who you know works on commission) for selling you the fully loaded model instead of saying to you "look fool you don't need or deserve this, so buy the base model" ............ you would report him to the manager laugh at him as he was packing his desk and bought that fully loaded ride from the next guy who was willing to tell you life owed you something ........... and of course it would be his fault for not being honest with you.
when you start borrowing money to buy shit you can't afford things go south ....... this country and the people who live here KNOW damn well that is a fact, but they still keep bustin out the credit card every time they see anything they think they want .
i AM NOT siding with the banks at all, but i will not lay the entire problem at their feet either. without US, THEY could not have fucked this up so badly. that may stick in your craw a little but it is 100% true.
I said you were in denial over this "friend". And you still are in denial.
You fault consumers for getting stuck with ARMs but your "friend" in the industry who KNEW BETTER instead pushed an ARM on you, and you don't fault him.
When someone presents themself as trustworthy and then attempts to screw you, that is a confidence game, grift, scam, bamboozle, flimflam.
That was the business, con-men at the top, con-men at the bottom.
You are in denial, and your definition of friend is twisted. Its common for trusting people to be manipulated by "friends". I wonder what other "friends" you have in your life that have a user-dynamic with you? Moochers hanging around for free smoke I bet.
Also don't you understand that people can fill out applications all day, but factchecking, risk analysis, and saying No are the lender's responsibility. They had no interest in doing that though, because they only worried about scamming as many suckers as possible.
You fault consumers for getting stuck with ARMs but your "friend" in the industry who KNEW BETTER instead pushed an ARM on you, and you don't fault him.
When someone presents themself as trustworthy and then attempts to screw you, that is a confidence game, grift, scam, bamboozle, flimflam.
That was the business, con-men at the top, con-men at the bottom.
You are in denial, and your definition of friend is twisted. Its common for trusting people to be manipulated by "friends". I wonder what other "friends" you have in your life that have a user-dynamic with you? Moochers hanging around for free smoke I bet.
Also don't you understand that people can fill out applications all day, but factchecking, risk analysis, and saying No are the lender's responsibility. They had no interest in doing that though, because they only worried about scamming as many suckers as possible.
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I'm not a political person, just an observer.The spokesperson for the Occupy Boston movement was on the radio this morning and his repeated use of the words like and ummm and yeah, having no idea what he was trying to say makes this whole thing foolish.The generation protesting is doing it on the back of the generation that kicked Hitlers ass.The money they made and passed down has produced too much liesure time, I mean how do you check your ph from a crummy seat on a smelly sidewalk in Boston.I could care less if they light themselves on fire, but with no point that would be pointless."The Starbucks Generation Protests!" I'm glad I have a hobby that keeps me from dissipation....and that guy shitting on the flag deserves a punch.
So CHACO just proved that this isn't some slick well financed Soros machinations, it really IS an organic movement, and truly populist.
Oh wait.. Sgt Stedanko you wanna chime in? So George Soros can make some phone calls and have the spokesperson of OccupyBoston removed for incompetence, right?
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Oh wait.. Sgt Stedanko you wanna chime in? So George Soros can make some phone calls and have the spokesperson of OccupyBoston removed for incompetence, right?
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This is a great point. The lending standards were intentionally LOWERED so that more people would qualify for these high yield loans, for the purpose of selling them to foreign investors, as AAA credit.
Then, when country wide /national city fell into a shit storm from having a bunch of bad loans, here comes BOA with fresh bailout money to buy the crap companies. We the taxpayers had to pay for our own mistakes as well as the mistakes of the banks, while having nothing to do with the ponzi scheme that was run.
zor, you have not lived in half the places I have. just search Petare, Caracas, then come back to me and tell us how much you know about these sort of places. lived there one year in the early 90s.
for the dumbass who thinks I have third-world education; I have three majors, one master and a doctorate; speak four languages too. and lets leave it at that.
the kid who thinks that his example of Tanzania shows anything good about the african idiosyncrasy, well, it shows the contrary; where else are people killing each other leaving schools full of children parentless?
this year I worked for seven months with political refugees from Sudan. don't even get me started on that one... always the good natured ones get fucked by the crazies who do not want to work or study, just steal.
obviously the truth hurts, keep discussing taxes and stay blind to the reality.
for the dumbass who thinks I have third-world education; I have three majors, one master and a doctorate; speak four languages too. and lets leave it at that.
the kid who thinks that his example of Tanzania shows anything good about the african idiosyncrasy, well, it shows the contrary; where else are people killing each other leaving schools full of children parentless?
this year I worked for seven months with political refugees from Sudan. don't even get me started on that one... always the good natured ones get fucked by the crazies who do not want to work or study, just steal.
obviously the truth hurts, keep discussing taxes and stay blind to the reality.
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You're talking two separate, but related issues here.Bill Clinton and Barney Frank, two individuals(among others) I hold highly accountable for as you say, lowered lending requirements...
Then crooked bankers and lenders took the ball and colluded to create funds comprised of 85-95% of these high-risk loans, and in some instances loans that they knew would flat out fail.Over simplification of course.
Everyone knows what's happened since, ad nauseum
Then crooked bankers and lenders took the ball and colluded to create funds comprised of 85-95% of these high-risk loans, and in some instances loans that they knew would flat out fail.Over simplification of course.
Everyone knows what's happened since, ad nauseum
all i gotta do is go down the street and I can see lots of lazy people, that don't wanna improve themselves or take advantage of the opportunities given to them. Blood suckers of society are everywhere and they piss anyone off that is productive. This does not mean that govt's do not play a part in quelling and enslaving entire populations.
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Since you are the authority of oppressive govts, can you share your 'official list'.
You keep reiterating that people are lazy and don't wanna work. People are like that everywhere and I think you'd be hard pressed to find someoen to disagree with you. But how does this relate to protesting corporate greed around the globe?
Lol, keep discussing your experience with lazy people as if no one has seen them, and stay blind to how govt's around the world are raping HARD WORKING people.
Oh yeah, while you're at it, please let me know if there are any other 'words' on your black list that i shouldn't use to describe the situation.
Yes, they are part of it. I assume you are refering to the 'fair housing act'. That is just the surface of the scam and it goes much deeper, much further , and crosses party lines and even countries.
zor, you can keep using words like 'olygarcs' all you want; no one will take you seriously except for the kids wearing the che guevara t-shirts.
and no, I will not post my degrees or any more personal info on the forums. I'm here because I'm a Cannabis Lover, not to post my cv.
and my discussion relates to the thread's topic because what I've been obviously doing is comparing, lets say 'chaviztas' with the crowd at wall-street.
like I said, why not take a different route to change the goverment? start a corporation, a political party, work hard; because wearing che t-shirts and shitting on flags won't get you anywhere.
and no, I will not post my degrees or any more personal info on the forums. I'm here because I'm a Cannabis Lover, not to post my cv.
and my discussion relates to the thread's topic because what I've been obviously doing is comparing, lets say 'chaviztas' with the crowd at wall-street.
like I said, why not take a different route to change the goverment? start a corporation, a political party, work hard; because wearing che t-shirts and shitting on flags won't get you anywhere.
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