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Occupy Wall Street: Not on major media but worth watching!

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zor

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zor, you can keep using words like 'olygarcs' all you want; no one will take you seriously except for the kids wearing the che guevara t-shirts.
just LOL.

and my discussion relates to the thread's topic because what I've been obviously doing is comparing, lets say 'chaviztas' with the crowd at wall-street.
yes, you are trying to make the comparison by accusing anyone who protests of laziness. Just because you've seen lazy people all around the world, doesn't mean every protest is about asking for handouts. I know plenty of people that work there ass off that are fed up the govt corruption and corporate socialism. just because you don't see a legit reason for the protest, doesn't mean there isn't one.

So if you wanna claim the protest is about handouts, go ahead and make your case. But again, explain why a protest is illegitimate because some blood suckers latch on and use it as an opportunity to ask for handouts.

like I said, why not take a different route to change the goverment? start a corporation, a political party, work hard; because wearing che t-shirts and shitting on flags won't get you anywhere.

what makes you think some protestors are not doing this already? Instead of stating your conclusion over and over. Connect the dots here, dr. masters degree.

(BTW, i've met many high level education people that are idiots, but guess what ? that doesnt mean YOU are one! imagine that? My experience is not all encompassing jsut like yours isn't)
 

InJoy

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At least a few understand what's goin on...


To all you people who want to blame the people who overextented their credit for all the woes of the world.

I ask you why aren't you pissed about every government sector corporations that did the same.

The peoples intentions were to live better...

Those other cats had far more damaging and sinister plans yet you all act as if they're not GUILTY of anything.

Some even tout these criminals were only providing a service.


The problem is, the housing bubble isn't the REAL PROBLEM

But that's what you're all focused on.

Imagine, no you don't need to imagine, we all know every sector of government is run overbudget.

With less jobs, less people paying taxes because of a crushed economy that the government can't "WON'T" fix how can they expect to support these wars?

http://costofwar.com/en/

$1,266,717,000,000 since 2001 and rising


now that is real debt imposed on even the most frugal Americans.

So tell me again how somebody defaulting on their mortgage has created the meltdown that's about to happen.

Oh don't worry they have a solution to rebuild, to serve and protect once again no need to worry...
 

Zen Master

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PROTEST CORPORATE GREED!

sent from my iPhone

:laughing:

I wonder how long till the pigs use some real force and rocks start to get thrown around, then something might actually come of this.

I'm all for reform, but I almost guarantee 99% of the 99% shop at wal mart, buy chinese, and facebook through their iPhones half the day.

I remember watching a Livestream of when they were in Times Square and they got a group to chant "we want ice cream! we want ice cream!" yeah, that'll have TPTB take you seriously....
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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lets just wait and see if the protesters accomplish anything; if the ones using terms like "olygarcs" manage to land themselves into any position where they can make decisions, many people, probably including zor, will be labelled 'olygarcs' and their property will be confiscated for being an 'olygarc'.

like I said, I have the experience of having lived through Venezuela's so-called "revolution", have seen its "fruits" first-hand. unlike zor and the rest.

just wait until one of these resented anti-'olygarcs' start invading even national parks to build shanty towns; or simply taking by force property and industries.

then we'll talk again. then you'll see why for me the subject can fire me up.

anyway, time to open that wine up.

later
 

Dislexus

the shit spoon
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Guess what bombadil, its a different country, a different agenda, that will have a different outcome... durrrrrrr.

How did you get a doctorate lol. Somewhere in Africa?
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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Guess what bombadil, its a different country, a different time, and a different agenda, durrrrr.


that's exactly what I said myself when the "revolution" in Venezuela started and the people who knew way better than I did told me: "this is how Cuba started, this will become Cuba".

although you are partly right in this case; I have a special place for the U.S in my heart, having lived there and gotten two of my degrees there btw. I doubt the well-educated portion of american society will let the che-guevara 'olygarc' hating crowd get into power. if they do though, you can aptly say good-bye U.S
 

Headbandf1

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Dislexus

the shit spoon
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bombadil just take a pic of your doctorate thats hanging on your office wall and use MSPaint to block out all the compromising info.

shut me up already dammit, I'm just as tired of my doctorate doubting as I am of you typing 'olygarcs' over and over and over and over and over

Wait I think I understand, someone mispelled oligarchs and you're making a big deal out of it. You realize its lame to correct spelling or typos in a discussion as it doesn't pertain to the content.

I don't know what it is to point out the same mispelling over and over and over and over and over and over and over.... pathetic?
 

Zen Master

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bombadil just take a pic of your doctorate thats hanging on your office wall and use MSPaint to block out all the compromising info.

whofuckingcares


so whats more effective in a molotov?, fuel or high proof alcohol? drink the booze then siphon gas from a LEO vehicle? win win?
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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oligarca is in my mother-tongue, hence my mis-spelling. and no, my doctorate is not in english nor spelling lol...

I have a doctorate in music if you must know.
 
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greenmatter

I said you were in denial over this "friend". And you still are in denial.

You fault consumers for getting stuck with ARMs but your "friend" in the industry who KNEW BETTER instead pushed an ARM on you, and you don't fault him.

When someone presents themself as trustworthy and then attempts to screw you, that is a confidence game, grift, scam, bamboozle, flimflam.

That was the business, con-men at the top, con-men at the bottom.

You are in denial, and your definition of friend is twisted. Its common for trusting people to be manipulated by "friends". I wonder what other "friends" you have in your life that have a user-dynamic with you? Moochers hanging around for free smoke I bet.

Also don't you understand that people can fill out applications all day, but factchecking, risk analysis, and saying No are the lender's responsibility. They had no interest in doing that though, because they only worried about scamming as many suckers as possible.

:laughing:

how far south can you take one word?

my friend (who does not smoke, so he must have some other evil plans for me) did not twist my arm in any way. he actually made it pretty clear that there was a really good chance of getting told no if i insisted on a fixed rate ...... and that an ARM would be no problem to get. made it clear what the differences between the two were and the whole Q&A that i did with him was free. and then he did what i wanted because i asked him to

i am not saying that the banks or the sales guys are not out to make money (read: fuck you coming and going) but when was the last time someone who was out to screw you told you that was their intention? i think that the general public took to much time to realize that whenever money is involved there are gonna be sharks in the pond ...... no matter what gets changed there always will be.
 

Dislexus

the shit spoon
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oligarca is in my mother-tongue, hence my mis-spelling. and no, my doctorate is not in english nor spelling lol...

I have a doctorate in music if you must know.

Oh I thought you were mocking someone else's mispelling. Okay music, that makes more sense.

I was suspicious because the process of getting most other doctorates would have molded your mind so that you based your arguments from an intellectual standpoint rather than your emotional standpoint. A doctorate in music shapes your mind in a totally different way.
 

Dislexus

the shit spoon
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By greenmatter's logic, if your girlfriend cheats on you, that's your fault because you should've expected she was a deceitful slut and turned that drunk wet pussy down when it was first offered.
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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You're talking two separate, but related issues here.Bill Clinton and Barney Frank, two individuals(among others) I hold highly accountable for as you say, lowered lending requirements...

Can you point out where lending requirements were lowered? Here's a hint, there's nothing in the FH Act that absolves lenders of due diligence. No idiot would back loans under the assumption that lenders would stop doing their jobs. We have evidence of mortgage fraud but the overwhelming evidence shows lender fraud.

http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/FHLaws/yourrights

Then crooked bankers and lenders took the ball and colluded to create funds comprised of 85-95% of these high-risk loans, and in some instances loans that they knew would flat out fail.Over simplification of course.
That's a fair assessment.
 

dagnabit

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well if you met her at a whore house being shat upon by Japanese tourists for blow and you brought her home to mom is it the whore house owners fault she gave your step dad crabs?
 

InJoy

Member
How bout a few numbers...

How bout a few numbers...

the gov claims this is what they spent on welfare

i took the year 2005 @ $408billion

with todays population of 312mil

put EVERYBODY on welfare and gave em each their share...

$1,307,692

they claim this year is $700bil

YE HA so this year EVERYBODY gets a wopping $2,243,589

how come h20 only gets $900 a month?


Stay in denial...

You can bet the war numbers are cooked in the other direction only a fool would believe otherwise.
 
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