Lol, that's cool. You've might give me the finger, I linked an article from Krugman above.
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Occupy Wall Street: Not on major media but worth watching!
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Lol, that's cool. You've might give me the finger, I linked an article from Krugman above.
Definitely not my favorite economist lol.
I like and miss Glass Stegal (7 pages). I think D-F (2300 pages) is a corrupt piece of legislation that pays lip service to "fixing" problems while consolidating multinational banking corporate power even further. Smaller banks and especially credit unions will drown in regulatory costs. Leaving only TBTF standing. The more complicated the legislation the more corrupt it is IMO. Same thing with the tax code. Big boys pay nothing. We pay for everything.
Oligarchs write laws to benefit themselves. I mean seriously 2300 pages? What is the bureaucracy to implement this thing going to look like? Wow. Going to massive. Led by the SEC who destroyed evidence of big bank illegal activity during the 2008 heist. The regulators are owned by the banks. It's a joke.
SEC Destroys Evidence Against Banks And Hedge Funds, Whistleblower Alleges Forbes
It's all so corrupt that I really can't take it seriously anymore. And that's the underlying issue that all this global upheaval is coming from. It's just starting IMO. Cause when the truth comes out about how rotten this whole thing is then it might just blow up.
I like and miss Glass Stegal (7 pages). I think D-F (2300 pages) is a corrupt piece of legislation that pays lip service to "fixing" problems while consolidating multinational banking corporate power even further. Smaller banks and especially credit unions will drown in regulatory costs. Leaving only TBTF standing. The more complicated the legislation the more corrupt it is IMO. Same thing with the tax code. Big boys pay nothing. We pay for everything.
Oligarchs write laws to benefit themselves. I mean seriously 2300 pages? What is the bureaucracy to implement this thing going to look like? Wow. Going to massive. Led by the SEC who destroyed evidence of big bank illegal activity during the 2008 heist. The regulators are owned by the banks. It's a joke.
SEC Destroys Evidence Against Banks And Hedge Funds, Whistleblower Alleges Forbes
It's all so corrupt that I really can't take it seriously anymore. And that's the underlying issue that all this global upheaval is coming from. It's just starting IMO. Cause when the truth comes out about how rotten this whole thing is then it might just blow up.
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Well it looks like the biggest fuck wits are gathering at Occupy DC.
Youtube key word "Obama Supporters "Occupy" DC" EDIT: My comments below are for this specific video
After watching this Occupy DC vid I cant really say who disgusts me more, these so called protesters or the gov. Occupy DC is a pathetic face book party of whinny ass college kids wah wah wah....we love obama but we have student loans and we want a bail out too. When the fuck did it become the governments job to provide free college educations.
I didn't go to college because I couldn't afford it and instead of student loans I have a mortgage, maybe I should be crying in the streets asking for a bail out too. Fuck all these hipster stool pushing pussies.
I think these "protests" are going to bring more division to the population in the long run.
This should be a call to over turn the crooks that worked over a once great nation, not all american's in the streets asking for their own individual hand outs.
Youtube key word "Obama Supporters "Occupy" DC" EDIT: My comments below are for this specific video
After watching this Occupy DC vid I cant really say who disgusts me more, these so called protesters or the gov. Occupy DC is a pathetic face book party of whinny ass college kids wah wah wah....we love obama but we have student loans and we want a bail out too. When the fuck did it become the governments job to provide free college educations.
I didn't go to college because I couldn't afford it and instead of student loans I have a mortgage, maybe I should be crying in the streets asking for a bail out too. Fuck all these hipster stool pushing pussies.
I think these "protests" are going to bring more division to the population in the long run.
This should be a call to over turn the crooks that worked over a once great nation, not all american's in the streets asking for their own individual hand outs.
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......i really hope you arent letting a few hipsters in a park decide your view of this movement.
"[This should be a call to over turn the crooks that worked over a once great nation, not all american's in the streets asking for their own individual hand outs."
That is EXACTLY what the wall street occupation is about and contrary to dividing people is actualy bringing together these "hippys" that started it and local labor unions in NYC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/occupy-wall-street_n_999048.html
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No definitely not, I think I just clicked on the wrong video today when I came up with that piece of crap.... It's like they rounded up the biggest idiots they could for the interviews but later on after checking out a few more vids I realized there is much more credible arguments coming from other occupations in DC.
Just look at economics, Iron. My higher education was 10x higher than my dad's. My kid's college education was 100x higher than mine. Adjusted for inflation, me and the rest of the 99% haven't made 10x higher salaries to keep up with greed.
I saw the same video and didn't see the same thing you did. We need more higher education, not less. If we keep going in this direction your grand kids will quit school at 16 and work at Walmart all their lives.
I saw the same video and didn't see the same thing you did. We need more higher education, not less. If we keep going in this direction your grand kids will quit school at 16 and work at Walmart all their lives.
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First of all, I don't believe that the people that are part of this movement are really doing it for the right reasons, nor do I think they're armed with the knowledge they think they are. Regardless, I do think that it is time for Americans as a people to stand up together and abolish the single biggest problem in American society now - The Federal Reserve.
The "Federal" Reserve is and has been screwing the United States and other countries for years now. If you to ask,I bet 90% of US Citizens would tell you they thought the Federal Reserve was part of the government. In fact, it is owned by The Rothschilds, Lazard Brothers, Israel Moses Seif, Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg, the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs, and the Rockefeller family.
Woodrow Wilson was in part elected President because he got funding from the creators of the Federal Reserve,led by J.P.Morgan. - in exchange he would sign into law the Federal Reserve Act. He was worried about his chances at President and saw this as a way to better his campaign at no/little cost. He later was quoted saying "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
Another thing to consider is the only president to date who tried to eliminate the Federal Reserve, John F. Kennedy, through Executive Order 11110, was assassinated after trying to put silver-backed UNITED STATES currency into the system - immediately after his death the US notes he had issued were taken out of circulation.
The Federal Reserve has cost us along the lines of (I believe) $12 Trillion and counting.
Now, the "Good" news. The US can BUY BACK the Federal Reserve AT ANY TIME for $500,000,000 - about the amount we pay them EVERY DAY. Also, the Federal Reserve supposedly expires December 31, 2012 (99 Years).
The Mayans on to something?
A quote from Thomas Jefferson: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
FUN FACT: Estimated Net Worth of the Rothschilds is purported to be somewhere between $300-$600 Trillion, yes that's Trillion with a capital T - and you thought Bill Gates was rich.
I say "estimated" for good reason,they are able to hide that wealth through British Family Trusts which can't be taxed and consequently it is impossible to determine actual wealth.
Complete and total upheaval suits their cause, they're banking(literally) on the fact that most people are easily distracted and are so caught up to actually see what's going on.
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The "Federal" Reserve is and has been screwing the United States and other countries for years now. If you to ask,I bet 90% of US Citizens would tell you they thought the Federal Reserve was part of the government. In fact, it is owned by The Rothschilds, Lazard Brothers, Israel Moses Seif, Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg, the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs, and the Rockefeller family.
Woodrow Wilson was in part elected President because he got funding from the creators of the Federal Reserve,led by J.P.Morgan. - in exchange he would sign into law the Federal Reserve Act. He was worried about his chances at President and saw this as a way to better his campaign at no/little cost. He later was quoted saying "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
Another thing to consider is the only president to date who tried to eliminate the Federal Reserve, John F. Kennedy, through Executive Order 11110, was assassinated after trying to put silver-backed UNITED STATES currency into the system - immediately after his death the US notes he had issued were taken out of circulation.
The Federal Reserve has cost us along the lines of (I believe) $12 Trillion and counting.
Now, the "Good" news. The US can BUY BACK the Federal Reserve AT ANY TIME for $500,000,000 - about the amount we pay them EVERY DAY. Also, the Federal Reserve supposedly expires December 31, 2012 (99 Years).
The Mayans on to something?
A quote from Thomas Jefferson: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
FUN FACT: Estimated Net Worth of the Rothschilds is purported to be somewhere between $300-$600 Trillion, yes that's Trillion with a capital T - and you thought Bill Gates was rich.
I say "estimated" for good reason,they are able to hide that wealth through British Family Trusts which can't be taxed and consequently it is impossible to determine actual wealth.
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Obama finally took notice.
http://cnettv.cnet.com/turning-occupy-wall-street-reform/9742-1_53-50112893.html
http://cnettv.cnet.com/turning-occupy-wall-street-reform/9742-1_53-50112893.html
anyone thought about calling rage against the machine?
probably one of the best music videos ever when they played in front of the stock exchange
probably one of the best music videos ever when they played in front of the stock exchange
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Still managed to insert his "it's their fault" spiel...Bullshit Du Jour from this clown.
No credibility whatsoever,my faith is in my brother
No credibility whatsoever,my faith is in my brother
I imagine he noticed when it first started up.
He and his party will "turn" this movement into an establishment (D) movement.
Same thing that happened to the TP.
Each movement had Libertarian underpinnings. Libertarian's, progressive and right-wing, have taken part in both movements. They are the minority in both movements and understand the intellectual failures of the system. Mainly the power of money and who issues it.
In both cases they are marginalized and eventually their message is "turned" into the establishment message.
I like seeing people protest the system, but neither group can seem to keep from being hijacked by establishment narratives and propaganda.
Maybe when the economy gets a lot worse something productive will happen.
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We need the middle class protesters to keep showing up so this will stay mainstream news, the more organized and experienced protesters need to keep things cool and the money grubbing bastards on Wall Street and around the world can collectively pucker their assholes and take what's coming to them.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/reporter-incites-occupy-d-c-riot-write-180750896.html
A reporter for the American Spectator--who says he "infiltrated" a Washington, D.C., faction of the Occupy Wall Street protesters, "in order to mock and undermine" the demonstrators' "cause" in his magazine--claims he helped incite a riot at the National Air and Space Museum on Saturday afternoon and was pepper-sprayed in the process.
Patrick Howley, listed on Spectator's online masthead as an assistant editor, described the incident in a post ("Standoff in D.C.") on the publication's website. Howley claims that as the 100 or so protesters approached the museum, "all of a sudden liberal shoes started marching less forcefully"--but not him:
A reporter for the American Spectator--who says he "infiltrated" a Washington, D.C., faction of the Occupy Wall Street protesters, "in order to mock and undermine" the demonstrators' "cause" in his magazine--claims he helped incite a riot at the National Air and Space Museum on Saturday afternoon and was pepper-sprayed in the process.
Patrick Howley, listed on Spectator's online masthead as an assistant editor, described the incident in a post ("Standoff in D.C.") on the publication's website. Howley claims that as the 100 or so protesters approached the museum, "all of a sudden liberal shoes started marching less forcefully"--but not him:
I think those who want the banks and corporations to lessen the wealth gap between the richest and the poorest should get to grindin...
"Ain't nobody gonna front you.
There's money out here and you can get it if you want to
Or you can keep sittin around sayin what chu' gon' do....."
~Jada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcS7joJYyRk&feature=related
"Ain't nobody gonna front you.
There's money out here and you can get it if you want to
Or you can keep sittin around sayin what chu' gon' do....."
~Jada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcS7joJYyRk&feature=related
It's not a desire to limit the top. The top limits everybody else.
If you're not in the top 1%, you're averaged amongst the bottom lines.
Shouldn't your line trend more similar to the top? Not up in the nose-bleed section but trending upward nonetheless. Otherwise we risk faulting economies. We might trend upward during bubbles but our individual and collective worth sinks with each bust. Before Gramm Leach Bliley, we averaged one bust a decade. We're in the 4th bust since 2000.
We don't want their money. We want Citizens United repealed so unlimited campaign contributions are cured. At a minimum, require disclosure so voters know who's interests they're considering.
Saying we want what belongs to somebody else is intellectually dishonest. Supporting top-down economic policies work for the top. For everybody else it's like playing the lottery.
If you're not in the top 1%, you're averaged amongst the bottom lines.
Shouldn't your line trend more similar to the top? Not up in the nose-bleed section but trending upward nonetheless. Otherwise we risk faulting economies. We might trend upward during bubbles but our individual and collective worth sinks with each bust. Before Gramm Leach Bliley, we averaged one bust a decade. We're in the 4th bust since 2000.
We don't want their money. We want Citizens United repealed so unlimited campaign contributions are cured. At a minimum, require disclosure so voters know who's interests they're considering.
Saying we want what belongs to somebody else is intellectually dishonest. Supporting top-down economic policies work for the top. For everybody else it's like playing the lottery.
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