"NYH" New York Haze(Piff)

[shishkaboy]

It was grown at many locations up and down east coast n even in PA... mostly large residential grows few buildings were blown up... the longevity and success were do to the right ppl getting paid by the right ppl .. even the corners operated openly... traffic on 178 n autobon at 3 am car lined up around the corner .. was nice when it lasted and lasted for hella long ..

As a high times reader and noob grower I always thought it was super lemon haze. This was when arjan was going back to back so it made sense to me. Lmao

What about dykeman? What they called haze was unrelated to the piff wasnt it?

I had only been to autobon a handfull of times. My piff experience mostly came from 119

 

[englishrick]

I'm cracking some of SAMs stuff now to find something similar to piff,,,this is what I've got to search trough,,,I was guessing the piff is an nl5xhaze from Nevs stock or something along the lines of SAMs haze work,,unless it's a big sur holly type,,,

since Nevs nl5xhaze is gone now ,,an luckily SAMs still being available and the original source of Nevs stock ,,I thought SAMs stock might be the best place to start for hardcore haze sensation,,,

Check this out for a source of piff type weed

30 seeds of,,,,Haze5 (aka X5) x o haze/sk
10 seeds of Haze/Mexican x OHaze/Skunk

I'm thinking of buying some more Haze/Mexican x OHaze/Skunk ,,,,if you take out the Mexican this looks like shanties super silver haze work without the nl,,,wonder what ssh would look like without the nl and using a Mexican instead,,,hmm,,,I should really buy some more now

 

[Lesnah]

As a high times reader and noob grower I always thought it was super lemon haze. This was when arjan was going back to back so it made sense to me. Lmao

What about dykeman? What they called haze was unrelated to the piff wasnt it?

I had only been to autobon a handfull of times. My piff experience mostly came from 119

Piff is "Haze/Puray" rebranded in the mid 2000's when dipset was popular. Dominicans will always call it Puray or Haze, piff is more of a black/english speaking term.

Just like how we still say "Haraka" when referring to regs while the rest of NYC call regs "reggie".

In my experience, Dyckman had Haze before the rest of uptown. Just like Dyckman were the first to make Nut crackers/nemos popular then the heights followed.

 

[Heightslife]

Piff

Piff

I'm got some piff right now that I got in Boston.. deff that NY haze smells like a church or a basement ..that taste is unlike anything ..there deff been sativa indica hybrids of the haze too purple colors denser nugs...but the true haze that the Dominicans be pumping is what I'm
Smoking right now . I feel every time I visit NY all they have is sour hopefully me seeing it out here means a resurgence..all the Asian bud and depth light cali shit getting played out.. would love Haze to pop off again like 03-09

 

[englishrick]

Looks like nl5 X haze or afghan X haze to me

 

[R.A.W]

Hm... I've said it before and I'll say it again. From the Haze crosses I've grown the inscense is not that uncommun. The Titans Haze being the clear winner bar none when compared to northern african frankinscense burning on coal, with a penetraiting smell post drying. Almost funk like. It's dark haze stink. The dried buds smell like burning frankinscense. That is before lighting up. But the plants only got this character after the second round. Had I not done the rerun I wouldn't have been impressed. The flowering time the second time was alot faster to. A pain in the as strain from seed to flower, but after that pure joy. Put in a cutting a couple inches high and harvest a plant that would've demanded a couple of weeks veg. compared to the
domesticade sat/ind crosses. But if going for finding an easy haze like plant, Chimeras Simply Ir. is the clear winner. Flowering time 10-14 weeks, some types are your nl/hz types, some sweet skunk, and some hm crystal ship ssh/slh like. Some with light frank smell, some with a more tropical touch. But every plant has that haze thing. Every plant is a winner in it's own way . Never exp. that in the two decades. You will find plants that have all the best features of the the plants involved. If you don't find a haze high you like in Simply Ir. ten pack. then haze is not for you. Don't waste your time to keep on chasing. Is it the best haze ever made? No clue. But this is a masterpiece. This is the best attempt sofar. Mango Haze,NL/HZ, SSH, Nebula,Purple Haze/Panama ,Titans Haze, Mango Inbr, Dolce Sativa, Sweet Skunk S1's etc...If you're only going to grow haze once, this is it. The best compromise sofar. That said, the closest to Catholic Church Inscense that I've had is the Titan. It's a rawer, untamed plant and it's going to be harder to grow. But from cutting it's going to be easy.

 

[HOVA]

Csg old school haze
A good friend sent me another seed of these
Gonna see if i find that puday pheno

I have 2 phenos of chimerma simply irresistible
In veg
The person nice enough to send these said one is incense with lemon and the other is straight on incence

 

[englishrick]

nobody interested in sams new stuff?,,,im lookin for my own ultimate haze clones in som ohaze x ohaze sk now,,,some peoples plants are lookin stocky too,,hopefully its a blast from the past,,,,nobody into it?

 

[stoney917]

nobody interested in sams new stuff?,,,im lookin for my own ultimate haze clones in som ohaze x ohaze sk now,,,some peoples plants are lookin stocky too,,hopefully its a blast from the past,,,,nobody into it?

Shit I'm interested... got pics?, how old were these seed ? Where u gotten? , does Sam have fresh seeds being released??? How did I not know this???

 

[ECtraveler]

oops wrong thread. lol

 

[englishrick]

That's got a be a mistake,,lol,,,

Check the thread about Cultivators Choice in the breeders retail / chimera subforum

Yeh chimera just started selling some fresh new seeds from Sam,,, if you want to see some oldschool haze then I'd say this new set of haze seeds from Sam is something to be seriously looked at,,,

I got this lot below to pheno hunt through,,hoping for a classic haze,,,

it's weird,,I've not seen really good haze since 2001,,,,I really miss good haze,,nobody wants to flower for 14 weeks any more ,,even Amsterdam haven't seen good haze since 01,,,I'm bringing that shit I remember back on the scene

30,,,, original haze X original haze / sk1 ,,,
10,,,,,, original haze / Mexican X original haze / sk1
10 ,,,, pot of gold X the original Hindu Kush mother .....(fems) so that's a reversed backcross.
10 ,,,, white rhino X Sk1,,,

If people who crave piff clones don't buy 30 an have a go I'd say they don't really want or know anything about real haze

 

[Dirt Life]

Im interested in Sams new stuff, looking forward to seeing what you get with those, englishrick!

 

[R.A.W]

Hova don't judge or choose Simply Ir. by looks or smell. I thought the winner was going to be an easy pick...I'm just saying you might want some bass to that treble after all. The mixed types might be the winners in this cross, not neccesarly the sativa extremes.

 

[HOVA]

Hova don't judge or choose Simply Ir. by looks or smell. I thought the winner was going to be an easy pick...I'm just saying you might want some bass to that treble after all. The mixed types might be the winners in this cross, not neccesarly the sativa extremes.

Im just looking for that straight incense haze smell and up high
I what strain it is as long i as i find it
That nyc haze cant be impossible to find
I know i can find it
And will find it
Mark my words to the fellas horading her i will find it
The cannibus community has too much love in it for it to be held forever by a few greedy people

 

[R.A.W]

The Inscence, it's there. All the plants have it to some degree.... sofar . But some plant's are just too clear and up, while some have just enough body and a little bit more "head action" to be interesting .

 

[Thcvhunter]

Who's got the A5 Haze line?
I'd say that's your best bet to find Piff

Otherwise, try and find Silver Haze.

Lastly, you may find something congruent in some Colombians. Cannabiogen sells pure Colombians.

 

[Dirt Life]

When ppl refer to incense and piffy traits, is it in the aromas of the plants while alive and flowering, or is it in the end cured product, or both? What if you have a plant that has numerous different aromas while flowering, but cures to incense, and vise versa? Would these be considered "piffy"?

 

[Thcvhunter]

Shipping in product into port is way riskier than domestic grows.
Just look at all the trouble the Mafia went through to get heroin in in the French Connection and the Pizza Connection.

LEO always gets lubed up by those who keep working. Those who dont grease the gears get fixed. A big opperation like Piff, thats one that is smart and well lubed.

As to strain selection....
How many people are out there chasing Big Bud? Now how many people are chasing old Haze, BlueBerry, Central/South American sativas?
The people running Piff are smart as fuck. Its all about branding. They have something thats hard to find and so people go through a lot to find their Piff.
People in this thread payed top dollar for a small bag of Piff and were happy to do it each time.
OG Kush goes for 5k a pound back in the glory days and thats comparatively a low yielder.
Not too many threads looking for the Big Buds.

As far as risk for the cops....
....what risk?
Remember those NYC cops who shot a man trying to get into his apartment? They told him to show his ID and when he reached for his wallet they shot him. Each officer used 2 or more clips in their guns.
Afterwards, they celebrated at a restaurant.
Cood blooded murder and they still got their pensions.
And its not the cops that are growing the plants, they are just part of the bigger system. So they arent in any risk by deciding to never knock on a few doors while busting competition.
As they say, there's nothing new in the drug game.
Aint no different than any other criminal enterprise thats been running smoothly for generations.

Ahhhh, I miss New York
I could go for a couple slices, an Italien Ice, a Chinese Cookie, Carvel Icecream Cake(extra ants), and then a stop onto Arthur Ave for some pasta sauce and sausages.

Thankyou stoney, interesting and has a ring of truth about it

You are alluding to LEO playing a part in the distribution ?

My question really was, why did they grow a (long flowering, low yielding by comparison) Sativa when they could have earned more $$ growing a hybrid/indica. Yes, sure people clearly loved the PIFF, but I cannot recall another time or place during this prohibition where connoisseur headstash was grown and sold commercially, in the face of massive financial incentives to maximise the rewards for a life threatening criminality.

Are members of the NYDP and assosciates so into their smoke that they happily run a 100s of million $$$$ operation at 30% of possible return, risking life without parole in the Penitentiary, for great weed ?

This is the anomaly that has never added up for me. I always guessed it was some tight as fuck crew of old heads with a laaarge farm on the islands, central america or S america who had a solid route in.. it was the only answer that made any sense to me.

 

[HOVA]

Shipping in product into port is way riskier than domestic grows.
Just look at all the trouble the Mafia went through to get heroin in in the French Connection and the Pizza Connection.

LEO always gets lubed up by those who keep working. Those who dont grease the gears get fixed. A big opperation like Piff, thats one that is smart and well lubed.

As to strain selection....
How many people are out there chasing Big Bud? Now how many people are chasing old Haze, BlueBerry, Central/South American sativas?
The people running Piff are smart as fuck. Its all about branding. They have something thats hard to find and so people go through a lot to find their Piff.
People in this thread payed top dollar for a small bag of Piff and were happy to do it each time.
OG Kush goes for 5k a pound back in the glory days and thats comparatively a low yielder.
Not too many threads looking for the Big Buds.

As far as risk for the cops....
....what risk?
Remember those NYC cops who shot a man trying to get into his apartment? They told him to show his ID and when he reached for his wallet they shot him. Each officer used 2 or more clips in their guns.
Afterwards, they celebrated at a restaurant.
Cood blooded murder and they still got their pensions.
And its not the cops that are growing the plants, they are just part of the bigger system. So they arent in any risk by deciding to never knock on a few doors while busting competition.
As they say, there's nothing new in the drug game.
Aint no different than any other criminal enterprise thats been running smoothly for generations.

Ahhhh, I miss New York
I could go for a couple slices, an Italien Ice, a Chinese Cookie, Carvel Icecream Cake(extra ants), and then a stop onto Arthur Ave for some pasta sauce and sausages.

You lost me bro

 

[HOVA]

When ppl refer to incense and piffy traits, is it in the aromas of the plants while alive and flowering, or is it in the end cured product, or both? What if you have a plant that has numerous different aromas while flowering, but cures to incense, and vise versa? Would these be considered "piffy"?

The cure , taste and aroma while burning and scent that it leaves the room
After being lit
Its really smells like you lit a frankincense
Its really Amazing stuff dirt life