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"NYH" New York Haze(Piff)

bigherb

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Bro if i find it im handing it out
Love is love

I feel you

But it's not that simple , there is a reason why she was / is held soo tight . We will never find her but possibly gifted her

Btw it's seems S1's are being made of that uptown cut for the community . Time will tell

1luvbigherb
 

HOVA

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I feel you

But it's not that simple , there is a reason why she was / is held soo tight . We will never find her but possibly gifted her

Btw it's seems S1's are being made of that uptown cut for the community . Time will tell

1luvbigherb

Lol im still searching
I may even get it and reinvent it
Who's knows a person can dream right
 
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bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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Sup brother

I understand your thought process, I'm not implying the genetics are Cuban either

But do you think the penalty is more harsh for cannabis then cocaine?
The Cubans have smuggled coke for years it is / was a major route in the US distribution

Point is criminals don't care , neither does someone who is both poor and starving

The Cuban connection is in relation to Florida

1luvbigherb

Hola brother bigherb,

My reply was for the question the poster biesel asked, wondering if the plants where the cutting in question came from were from cuba; I was lazy and did not quote him.

Cuba is heavy into cocaine trafficking, along side Venezuela and Bolivia, Haiti too and a few others. But keep in mind that's a business very exclusive to the elites and also as a moving point, not as an end point to sale to consumers in the island. Also, cannabis growing and cannabis use is shunned by cuban idiosyncrasy in the island. If you know any cubans fresh out of cuba and who left old enough to know about drugs in the island, ask and they'll tell you the same thing. Maybe there's a handful of people risking life itself to grow a few plants here and there, but beyond that I have yet to hear any credible info from a credible source.

Peace!
 

Chunkypigs

passing the gas
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I smoked some piff last week. no way for me to tell if it was the original but I'm getting a bag of it next time I meet up with the guy.

I have some cuts he wants so we'll see.... apparently everyone with a cut here was threatened with death if they share it.

the taste and smoke reminded me of super silver haze with some orange in the mix.

really nice buzz but I'm pretty certain I don't want a 100 day strain if that's what it takes.

I'll try to get some pictures next time.
 

Lesnah

Active member
I smoked some piff last week. no way for me to tell if it was the original but I'm getting a bag of it next time I meet up with the guy.

I have some cuts he wants so we'll see.... apparently everyone with a cut here was threatened with death if they share it.

the taste and smoke reminded me of super silver haze with some orange in the mix.

really nice buzz but I'm pretty certain I don't want a 100 day strain if that's what it takes.

I'll try to get some pictures next time.

You're thoughts are pretty much what most ppl are assuming. It has to be a great pheno found within the first few seed batches or early clones of Nevil/SSH/Silver Haze/Purple Haze etc....

Someone will find it eventually. If He/she will bring it back into public circulation....that's another story.
 

rolandomota

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I heard oldtimers haze has frankincense phenos. Lost tribes purple haze came out with a strong incense flavor wich renews my love for purple haze and green haze from ace. I want the purple haze still i have to get it when its released again probably in the next year or two from ace. The oldtimers. Haze is fresh i think but the malawi and malawi x panama are my next buys right now. Anyway im rambling good luck with the search for a nice flavor
 

HOVA

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I smoked some piff last week. no way for me to tell if it was the original but I'm getting a bag of it next time I meet up with the guy.

I have some cuts he wants so we'll see.... apparently everyone with a cut here was threatened with death if they share it.

the taste and smoke reminded me of super silver haze with some orange in the mix.

really nice buzz but I'm pretty certain I don't want a 100 day strain if that's what it takes.

I'll try to get some pictures next time.


Chunky sign me up
 

silverhazefiend

"Aint no love in the heart of the city"
Veteran
Lol this "piff" situation has gone too far ..

"Piff" isn't just one cut or super strain its a name to describe a type of weed ..

If u smoked any type of frankincense weed with a piney taste or sweet taste u basically smoked piff ..the best type was subjective..i liked the stringy look some people liked the skunky nugget form ..yes the same piff in florida was the same as nyc ..think of florida as the California for nyc before legalization combined with major profit it was just logistics stopping u from making alot of money

U kno whats more crazy as even tho im being as honest as possible and live and grew up in that era of nyc people are gonna disregard what im saying and continue to search for this mysterious "piff" lol ..and some one is gonna just capitalize from it ..some breeder is gonna label his o haze skunk cut or nvs haze cross ...90s black/piff/cuban/etc haze and make a killing

Weed smuggled from cuba ? Lol are u serious cuba couldn't/cant even get legal items like cars much less genetics to make it out ..i like folklore but some of it is ridiculous
 

biesel

Member
I agree the Dominicans gave me a cut of "pif" aka haze aka good ass weed. All i know is what i grew was some kind of inscense smelling crazy branchy giant of a plant. Had utra thin leaves with few serations but extremly long leaves. I called it haze as it took over 12weeks and just about filled my whoke entire room by the end of the flowering. Had super incense with spice smell to the entire plant. Quite pleasent just a touch of skunk at the end of the wiff. Serious self reflective bud made you think a lot about your situation in life. Not in a negative way like reflecting on past mistakes
 

biesel

Member
I believe that clone is in upstate ny somewhere. Maybe when it turns legal well find it. He crossed it out to a bunch of plants. The crazy thing was they alk turned a way eorse that usual wich i wierd for a suposed land race
 

biesel

Member
It seems it only responded well to sativas so big bale bill...his real name lol crossed it to his catskill purp haze. Which was seeds he brought back from nam and inbred them for the cold of the catskills and selected out of large groups. The cross was the called good ol delightful which was and acronym for alot of people got so introspective they would say ot like seeing god lol
 

eyes

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Although I havent had the chance to try any of ace's offerings, I've read there's similar highs in many of his genetic offerings. I wish a seed vendor in the U.S. carried his genetics.
 

biesel

Member
I wish a breeder from ny would collect strains from here and not just the citys in the noreast because of the strict laws and greed strains dont get passed like they used to.
 

biesel

Member
@silverhazefiend yo cubans got made weed here from cuba. If you lived in NY and copped nicks and dimes from them. I guarentee it was cuban bud or Colombian brought to cuba. I have a cuba friend that showed me the pics of the shit the grow there still to this day. Find a cuban homie on insta...and learn espanol pop
 

earthwyrms

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It seems it only responded well to sativas so big bale bill...his real name lol crossed it to his catskill purp haze. Which was seeds he brought back from nam and inbred them for the cold of the catskills and selected out of large groups. The cross was the called good ol delightful which was and acronym for alot of people got so introspective they would say ot like seeing god lol

i missed it, what did he breed to the catskill purple haze? also ace panama, zamaldelica, and golden tiger look like they could maybe be bred to make it up in new york, outdoors. the panama, atually looks like it does, already, with the right plant, also i believe i saw an outdoor plant from ny.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Panama from ACE might be a good choice.
Flowering outdoors 3rd week of October
Resistance against powder mildew: Average
Resistance against botrytis: High
Resistance against cold: Average-High
Latitude 0º-45º


Zamaldelica as well.
Flowering outdoors End of October / November

Resistance against powder mildew: High
Resistance against botrytis: Very High
Resistance against cold: Average
Latitude 0º-43º

Golden tiger
Flowering outdoors End of October / November
Resistance against powder mildew: Average

Resistance against botrytis: Very High
Resistance against cold: Average-High
Latitude 0º-43º


Panama
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Tipo: F8-F10 SEMI STABILIZED HYBRID
Format: Standard
Sativa / Indica ratio: 100 % sativa
THC: 18-23 %
CBD: Below 1 %
Flowering indoors 9-12 weeks
 
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earthwyrms

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PANAMA

Tipo F8-F10 SEMI STABILIZED HYBRID
Format Standard
Sativa / Indica ratio 100 % sativa
THC 18-23 %
CBD Below 1 %
Flowering indoors 9-12 weeks
Flowering outdoors 3rd week of October
Yield High
Resistance against spider mites Average-High
Resistance against powder mildew Average
Resistance against botrytis High
Resistance against white fly Average
Resistance against cold Average-High
Resistance against heat High
Latitude 0º-45º
Genetics Hybrid between 3 panamanian sativa strains.
Structure Tall and branched sativa of great strength.
Bouquet Penetrating organic aroma, mainly lemon, vanilla and incense. In some phenos sweeter, with strawberry aromas.
High Very powerful, psychedelic and long lasting effect. The red pheno usually has a denser and heavier effect, while the green ones provide a much cleaner and energetic experience.
Growing Tips Excellent adaptability to indoor growing.

Outdoors, it is also a very adaptable plant that has been successfully grown for years in temperate latitudes, and even in cold climates such as in southern France or Eastern Europe.

Panama is one of the best sativas available to develop powerful, resinous and high yielding hybrids.

It accepts high levels of nutrients, producing an enormous harvest when the conditions are adequate.


ZAMALDELICA

Tipo POLY HYBRID
Format Standard
Sativa / Indica ratio 100 % sativa
THC 18-24 %
CBD Below 1 %
Flowering indoors 11-14 weeks
Flowering outdoors End of October / November
Yield Average-High
Resistance against spider mites Average-High
Resistance against powder mildew High
Resistance against botrytis Very high
Resistance against white fly Average-High
Resistance against cold Average
Resistance against heat High
Latitude 0º-43º
Genetics Zamal x Malawi/Thai.
Structure Extremely bushy sativa of medium height.
Bouquet Sweet carrot, mango, orange, flowers and resins.
High Very powerful, refined effect of premium quality. Clear, euphoric, stimulating and soaring. Very psychedelic in certain cases.
Growing Tips It can be grown indoors without problems, although we recommend high light intensity to achieve its best potential.

Outdoors it can be grown at latitudes until 43º in a coastal climate with warm autumn. When grown in the mountains or in continental climates, it can ripen at latitudes until 38º.

We recommend low-average fertilizer levels for the whole cycle, especially Nitrogen.


GOLDEN TIGER

Tipo F3 SEMI STABILIZED HYBRID
Format Standard
Sativa / Indica ratio 100 % sativa
THC 20-25 %
CBD Below 1%
Flowering indoors 11-14 weeks
Flowering outdoors End of October / November
Yield High
Resistance against spider mites Average
Resistance against powder mildew Average
Resistance against botrytis Very high
Resistance against white fly Average-High
Resistance against cold Average-High
Resistance against heat High
Latitude 0º-43º
Genetics Old Malawi killer, Koh Chang Thai, Hmong Thai and a 3er generation Malawi male (brother of the New Malawi killer).
Structure Very branchy and elegant sativa of thin leaves and medium-long node length.
Bouquet Floral, spicy and lemony thai aromas, with the organic and resinous Malawi background.
High Extreme effect of psychedelic sativa: dense, stimulant and very long lasting. It may be devastating for beginners. Recommended only for the harder and most experienced sativa users.
Growing Tips Although this sativa shows all its potential in tropical/subtropical climates, it has also been grown with very good results even in latitudes 43º.

For indoor growing for small columnar plants or SOG, start straight from clones to 12/12 just a couple of days after the rooting.

This sativa is adequate for SCROG, horizontal or network growing due to its excellent yield in the lateral branches and its vigorous reaction to pruning.

We recommend low-average fertilizer levels for the whole cycle, especially Nitrogen.


GOLDEN TIGER F1

Tipo F1 HYBRID
Format Standard
Sativa / Indica ratio 100 % sativa
THC 20-25 %
CBD Below 1%
Flowering indoors 11-14 weeks
Flowering outdoors End of October / November
Yield High
Resistance against spider mites Average
Resistance against powder mildew Average
Resistance against botrytis Very high
Resistance against white fly Average-High
Resistance against cold Average-High
Resistance against heat High
Latitude 0º-43º
Genetics Old Malawi killer x Hmong Thai
Structure Very branchy and elegant sativa of thin leaves and medium-long node length.
Bouquet Floral, spicy and lemony thai aromas, with the organic and resinous Malawi background.
High Extreme effect of psychedelic sativa: dense, stimulant and very long lasting. It may be devastating for beginners. Recommended only for the harder and most experienced sativa users.
Growing Tips Although this sativa shows all its potential in tropical/subtropical climates, it has also been grown with very good results even in latitudes 43º.

For indoor growing for small columnar plants or SOG, start straight from clones to 12/12 just a couple of days after the rooting.

This sativa is adequate for SCROG, horizontal or network growing due to its excellent yield in the lateral branches and its vigorous reaction to pruning.

We recommend low-average fertilizer levels for the whole cycle, especially Nitrogen.

ALL STANDARD SEEDS
 

stoney917

i Am SoFaKiNg WeTod DiD
Veteran
Lol this "piff" situation has gone too far ..

"Piff" isn't just one cut or super strain its a name to describe a type of weed ..

If u smoked any type of frankincense weed with a piney taste or sweet taste u basically smoked piff ..the best type was subjective..i liked the stringy look some people liked the skunky nugget form ..yes the same piff in florida was the same as nyc ..think of florida as the California for nyc before legalization combined with major profit it was just logistics stopping u from making alot of money

U kno whats more crazy as even tho im being as honest as possible and live and grew up in that era of nyc people are gonna disregard what im saying and continue to search for this mysterious "piff" lol ..and some one is gonna just capitalize from it ..some breeder is gonna label his o haze skunk cut or nvs haze cross ...90s black/piff/cuban/etc haze and make a killing

Weed smuggled from cuba ? Lol are u serious cuba couldn't/cant even get legal items like cars much less genetics to make it out ..i like folklore but some of it is ridiculous

The piff looked different cuz they had 3 versions... the stringy bomb bomb basement church that was the first to hit the scene n most ppls favorite def was mine... this was the only one around at first from late mid 90s to 2003 this cut is supposedly didn't survive the busts... the green one puday chunkier I guess you can say tropical not fruity still piff but definitely different... then the silver golden haze probably the strongest most intense not as stringy as the first but not as chunky as green it's what most ppl who started smoking after 2002 know as piff the later 2 finish much quicker n grow much more manageable... but Ya 3 different cuts and all the piffs came from the same ppl... no one else was is could be growing it... only ppl who got the cuts were the feds ripping shit out... the green n silver survived:dance013:
 

earthwyrms

Active member
lol, if anything sets of NSA scanners, it's the words, bomb bomb basement church, rofl, like the worst combo of words for a strain. hoah boy! i'm guessing stringy means that it had more pure sativa in it. if you grow your own, ACE green haze is a pure haze, it has a 140 day flowering period, and from all accounts, it is legit, and a good yielder.
 

stoney917

i Am SoFaKiNg WeTod DiD
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Ace oltimers first release
 

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