Northern Lights types 1-11

[JohnnyChicago]

Hi Johnny

My skinny leaf contest brother.

Here my #28 clone. I believe the most Hindu Kush or NL#2 or so I came across.
Smells like mangos.

 

[GreenAndFast]

How do you follow that?

 

[GreenAndFast]

Here's my frankly inferior plants haha

 

[JohnnyChicago]

How do you follow that?

Because it is like time traveling. Not growing or breeding. Like sitting in a space shuttle and visiting the places I have been in my youth.

Here another one....

 

[Stocktont]

Beautiful guys!!

 

[Ttzoo]

It's variegation.
Good eye, Piff_cat.



Smells are lemony, skunky, gassy/fermentation with the dark green terps of the US NL5.
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To compare, dried buds of what I consider a pheno that should be very similar to the US NL5 clone. (the one I have posted in june).
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She's gorgeous, thanks for posting.

Listening to the Breeders Syndicate podcast Notsodog states that the NL5 seed line threw a lot of variation with Neville finding a very Afghan expression.

I'm growing NL5 from The Greenstash who picked it up late 90s from Indians on one of the islands off Seattle. I ran a pheno for two years that had an incredible citrus/ grapefruit terps that was very lanky in structure, low yield but best thing anyone had tried around here. Very euphoric with a stoney followup.

I've got a strong male and two females from their open pollination (for seed increase), one is identical to the lanky pheno (although the stem rub is almost menthol currently), the other is a beast, shown here 5 days into 12/12...

The two either side are two phenos of TKNL5H from AK BeanBrains from clone.

 

[Plookerkingjon]

Gosh I feel like I'm in a Twilight Zone episode because when I was growing up Northern New England Northern Lights look nothing like these nothing

 

[Ttzoo]

Gosh I feel like I'm in a Twilight Zone episode because when I was growing up Northern New England Northern Lights look nothing like these nothing

It's a minefield.

If the original US seed line for NL5 was not a stabilised line then its going to throw sativa leaning and indica leaning phenos whereas NL from The Seedbank back in the day will be very afghan dominant as Neville picked that in his seeds.

If Notsodog is to be believed then Seattle Greg described the NL5 seedline as 'a mess'.

I know that The Green Stash NL has nothing to do with Neville or the seedbank.

The search for me was about the high and the lanky pheno I found from Green Stash had, from memory, the same if not similar high to the 90s NL5 we used to get back then. It definitely put to shame any modern hybrids.

Just my two cents, but if you are searching for 'original NL5' I'm not sure if one consistent true breeding line is where it's at.

But I could of course be totally wrong and would be more than happy to be proven otherwise. I'm just an old bloke who's only been growing 3 years and has a geek level fondness for 90s weed and a love for this plant. Please don't take my word as gospel.

I'm still going to buy Todd's NL5 for comparison.

Below is the lanky pheno similar to the one I lost.. it was popped the same time as the beast pheno but is tiny in comparison. Still in veg and had to have a bunch of LST to tame her.

 

[Plookerkingjon]

I mean listen these are the type of people growing back then right that used to check their f****** motor oil by tasting it. No really, so you never know they may have been growing a derivative or an Afghani that they were calling Northern Lights just so that it didn't get unwanted attention because there was nothing legal about what we were doing back then. So it's weird how being old enough to see basically when I was growing up they had some cut up here that they were grow religiously and it looked just like Christmas trees and it was all called northern lights so I might be coming out of left field from a perspective that was how do I say this in the right vernacular that was introduced or I was like brought up around and it was not the actual cut

 

[Plookerkingjon]

Whatever happened to uniform Christmas tree cultivars, I'm not talking about two out of 10 I'm talking about like 20 out of 25

 

[Ttzoo]

Bear in mind that that these pictures are of topped and trained plants. I'm in a prohibition area and headroom is a premium, so I have to LST these to keep the height down.

That big pheno if left to it's own devices would probably look lovely in the lounge at Christmas time.

Whatever happened to uniform Christmas tree cultivars, I'm not talking about two out of 10 I'm talking about like 20 out of 25

 

[purpleplayer007]

 

[swampthing]

Anyone worth a snot knows N.L. #2 was the most sativa of the lot, N.L. #5 was the most indica. Everything else was in between these somewhere.

Actually NL2 is very indica.

 

[RoyalFlush]

NL2 x NL5

 

[flower~power]

Whatever happened to uniform Christmas tree cultivars, I'm not talking about two out of 10 I'm talking about like 20 out of 25

 

[Ttzoo]

One thing I've really struggled with is finding any smoke reports about Todd McCormicks NL2. Politics aside, I'd love to know what the smoke/phenos are like before I plan when to pop them.

Any help on that would be really appreciated.

 

[acespicoli]

NL5 just cant mellow orange sunshine I think if it weren't for that fact I would have appreciated it more...
I may need to try the best version out there again, so what would that be ?
@JohnnyChicago yours looks nice did you ever have it tested ? where would find that kinda pheno?
Not sure anyone has origional clones anymore I could be wrong...

 

[JohnnyChicago]

That I am rating that NL so high, as Original Haze breeder, at the same time all the others are hyping the Haze, should be test enough @acespicoli

Best place to find a plant like mine should be my seeds.

Which NL5 line is the best, I don't know.
Atomic NL was the very best NL line for me. And what Royalflush does show and report, what I like the most, after mine of course.

 

[Leadville Larry]

On another note, this plant is my child, found her in 2009, and will never part with her as long as I can help it. I'm germinating some Bx seeds I did of her now, only have one up, killed 2 other accidently.. looking forward to seeing how it turned out...

Northern Lights x Shiva
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She’s pretty

 

[Leadville Larry]

what a great description. got some info that could help on your quest for that shiny leaf one...... nld "hashplant" from xinijiang could be responsible for this line.

these nld/semi feral hashplants are where it all started with xinijiang and tibet housing most basal cannabis members. xinijiang in particular has a very cool set of ancient terpene synthases which they share with sandalwood. the terpenes built by these enzymes are alpha bisabolol and santalene. this group of metabolites is very rare and utilize cyto450 enzymes very specific substrates highly conserved in higher plants.
alpha bisabolol is a sequiterpene created by a monoterpene synthase enzyme. after one of several isomers of bisabolol is finished, it can be further modified into santalene using the cytochrome 450 enzyme. usually these types of complicated arrangments would be found in medecinal trees such as myrrh bosweliia(franky) agarwood etc. this particular bisabolol/santalene trait is catalyzed by the plant to deal with heavy metal content in media. the plant can create many many isomers of santalene allowing very specific niche integration.

heres the cool part... both cannabis and sandlewood got this trait from the same ancestor! meaning in some deep way these 2 types are entwined. xinjiang , is home to the ugyhurs an ethnic muslim group who has been famed for their hash since the beginning. areas like yarkand, turkestan, iran even parts of tibet. like the hmong the ughyurs have been driven to different areas by the han chinese and its posited that thee movements brought their nld hashplants to northern afghanistcan tashkurgan north east iran and even morroco.

there are rare snp thc synthases found only in afghan, morrocco and xinijijang. including a mutated thc synthase found in 2700 year old drug sample. the important distinct characteristics of these plants are cbc/cbl content, oxygenated sequiterpenes with alcohol subsitutions specifically- guiaol, eudesmol, alpha bisabolol, and santalene. heres some info

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indeed some CsTPS-b members contribute to sesquiterpene production in cannabis trichomes, although the TPS-b group has been previously described as including mostly mono-TPSs in other plant species (Chen et al., 2011). In sandalwood (Santalum spp.), a member of TPS-b also functions as a sesquiterpene synthase (Jones et al., 2011). It is striking that in both cannabis and sandalwood, these TPS-b members produce bisabolane-type sesquiterpenes, which may be due to similar routes of active site evolution from their respective monoterpene synthase ancestors (Gao et al., 2012)

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Was that direct from Clark’s ethnobotany book?