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cooterbrown420
Trump talked to Kim about hotels and golf courses during meeting. His whole objective is to open real estate in NOKO he doesn't care about nukes. Sorry I know you guys hate facts.
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Trump talked to Kim about hotels and golf courses during meeting. His whole objective is to open real estate in NOKO he doesn't care about nukes. Sorry I know you guys hate facts.
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cooterbrown420
He lied for 35 minutes again today
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-president-trumps-nato-summit-news-co/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-president-trumps-nato-summit-news-co/
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Rubber Chicken
When people so rabidly defend someone who is so incompetent, it says more about their character (or intelligence.... or maybe both) than anything they type.
Ignorance, Demands Recognition.
well, if he opened his mouth (or tweeted), he was lying. stupid fucker. he thinks we are as stupid as he is; in some cases, he is right...
HuffnPufferfish
Member
argh the liberals? aargh get all that liberty away from me, i dont need no stinkin facts, hail trumps no matter what!
he does make what seems to be a valid point, if nato is to defend against Russia, then why is any nato member doing business with Russia? either they are not seriously afraid of Russia attacking them, or they are paying for their future invasion? if they are not afraid of Russia invading them, then get rid of nato completely, or invite Russia to join.
so while it's totally unprecedented for a US president to speak like that, it's what we europeans have been thinking for a while now, why do we need US troops in Germany? can you tell me? are they to protect against Germany being invaded by Russia? if yes why would Germany spend billions on Russian gas? it's not logical.
now personally i don't see a threat of invasion by Russia, so i'd be happy to see US troops get out of there. maybe there is justification for stationing nato at the eastern block side near Russia, but why should germany be occupied by US troops? it's plain silly and has actually curtailed German sovereignty since the end of WW2. up till today the US has always been the one that wants to stay in Germany, so Trumps speeches on nato are thought provoking, to say the least.
Totally agree with your post #391 gaiusmarius. It also explains any looks as meaning, "I can't believe Trump is keeping it real telling them just how it is. He has big balls".
I don't know what you could find to disagree with what he said. So subrob IMHO your guarantee is wrong.
I don't know what you could find to disagree with what he said. So subrob IMHO your guarantee is wrong.
HuffnPufferfish
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doing business with the other guy is good way to not get into a fight with them... money rules the world
if europe doesnt buy gas from russia, how will it warm its residents? burn wood?!
doing business with the other guy is good way to not get into a fight with them... money rules the world
if europe doesnt buy gas from russia, how will it warm its residents? burn wood?!
don't misunderstand me, i agree, it's in Germany's interest to buy Russian gas, it's cheaper and a direct pipeline is more secure then relying on the crazy right wingers in Kiev to let the gas through their pipes again without crazy conditions and threats of turning it off every time there is a bumb in the road for their nutwing government.
but IF, Germany really saw the risk of being invaded by Russia, then it would be madness to spend billions annually on Russian gas. but because everyone knows Russia has no intention of invading Germany, it's actually the best option for Germany as a whole. both industry and private sector benefit from the Russian gas supply, it's cheaper by a third then US supplied LNG would be, so if no risk of war, then it's obvious.
it's also true to say that trading makes wars less likely, which is why i always hated the way the US declares unilateral sanctions on other nations trading with each other.
anyway him saying this stuff has opened a subject that was previously sacrosanct doctrine, no one questioned the US spending more on nato, as nato has always been led and dominated by the US, but Trump has turned the tables, it's quite a good tactic, he will get nato members to increase spending on nato short term, which basically benefits no one more then the US. most of the money spent will likely be on US weapons too, so it's a double win. IF IT WORKS!
the thing is, it can back fire, the EU public will now realize that actually paying for US troops in Germany, England, Belgium, Holland and so on is ridiculous. this might start discussions on a political level internally that will end up coming back to haunt nato. the public might really say, we don't even need nato, specially not in western Europe, specially if we have to pay even more tax payer money, only to see nato being abused for US military adventurism and regime change. nato was supposed to be a defensive organisation, meanwhile it's become a US led aggressor, in places like ex Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya, we see clearly that nato has nothing to do with defending Europe anymore, which is why Trumps demands for more money will back fire in the long run, even if spending is increased short term, it will cost politicians agreeing to spend more, to lose elections in future.
my my, we certainly are living in "interesting times".
i have to say it's a weird situation and you never know what he will do next to break with long standing US policy's both good and bad ones, lmao.
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Interesting link to an article about the war is Syria being about gas pipelines to Europe to circumvent the Russians supplying gas thru their pipeline in the Baltic....true or not?
Pipelinistan;
The first pipeline is allegedly backed by the US and runs from Qatar through Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Syria. The second is a supposedly Russia-backed pipeline that goes from Iran, via Iraq, to Syria.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, it is claimed, rejected the Qatari pipeline in 2009, at the request of Moscow, to ensure that European reliance on Russian gas would not be undermined.
As a result, some commentators claim, the US and its European and Gulf allies, including Qatar, decided to orchestrate a rebellion against Assad to ensure that their pipe dreams became a reality rather than the Iranian option. Russia, in turn, backed Syria to ensure its own energy interests prevailed. Iran is also an ally of the current regime in Damascus.
These claims have been promoted in several quarters: the Qatari-based Al Jazeera first floated the concept of a "Pipelineistan war" in 2012.
Even US establishment journal Foreign Affairs and the Guardian newspaper picked up on the theory, which gained further traction in 2016 in an article by Robert Kennedy Jr, and was flagged by, among others, Jill Stein of the Green Party, a former US presidential candidate.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/essays...y-why-war-syria-was-never-about-gas-144022537
Pipelinistan;
The first pipeline is allegedly backed by the US and runs from Qatar through Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Syria. The second is a supposedly Russia-backed pipeline that goes from Iran, via Iraq, to Syria.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, it is claimed, rejected the Qatari pipeline in 2009, at the request of Moscow, to ensure that European reliance on Russian gas would not be undermined.
As a result, some commentators claim, the US and its European and Gulf allies, including Qatar, decided to orchestrate a rebellion against Assad to ensure that their pipe dreams became a reality rather than the Iranian option. Russia, in turn, backed Syria to ensure its own energy interests prevailed. Iran is also an ally of the current regime in Damascus.
These claims have been promoted in several quarters: the Qatari-based Al Jazeera first floated the concept of a "Pipelineistan war" in 2012.
Even US establishment journal Foreign Affairs and the Guardian newspaper picked up on the theory, which gained further traction in 2016 in an article by Robert Kennedy Jr, and was flagged by, among others, Jill Stein of the Green Party, a former US presidential candidate.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/essays...y-why-war-syria-was-never-about-gas-144022537
CaptainDankness
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I'm sure England is all for us being in Germany they are responsible for both World Wars. They could also do it again if we leave and allowed them to mass produce weapons. We couldn't really nuke them without hurting the rest of Europe.
Same reason we are in Japan, Italy and South Korea we lost a lot of soldiers to save Europeans and Asians. Even if they hate us, we are the ones who let them govern themselves. It's not like we forced anyone to adopt the American Constitution.
Most of our wars ain't really as bad as some people act. Bosnia would be run by Islamic dictators without out us and they would continue their caliphate like the Muslims tried and tried again, even just before the Crusades. We've been fighting Islam since Muhammad, they want the world.
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cooterbrown420
Yeah who wants to live under Sharia law. Oh wait Christian conservatives want us to live under Christian Sharia law here in the U.S. They seem to think being Christian is the best requirement for governing. It is hilarious how they love to point to Muslim countries but don't mind living in a theocracy themselves.
Well Cooter, you found us out. Our plan has been foiled by the magnificent Cooter. Damn, now we can't throw gays off buildings. No honor killings. No acid attacks, no roadside bombs. How will we recover. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
To compare America to Sharia law is showing how unbelievable uneducated you are. How many gallons of leftist koolaid are drinking today?
Sharia Law.
Islam's Sharia law is cast from the words of Muhammad, called "hadith," his actions, called "sunnah," and the Quran, which he dictated. The Sharia law itself cannot be altered but its interpretation, called "fiqh," by muftis (Islamic jurists) is given some latitude.
As a legal system, the Sharia law is exceptionally broad. While other legal codes regulate public behavior, Sharia regulates public behavior, private behavior, and even private beliefs.
Compared to other legal codes, the Sharia law also prioritizes punishment over rehabilitation and favors corporal and capital punishments over incarceration. Of all legal systems in the world today, the Sharia law is the most intrusive and restrictive, especially against women.
According to the Sharia law -
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death.
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Which countries use the Sharia law?
Muslims' aspired Sharia state is the birthplace of Muhammad that has no legal code other than the Sharia law and enforces it without mercy: Saudi Arabia. But as detailed below, the Sharia law is also used in full or in part, nationally or regionally in:
Afghanistan (89%) France Lebanon Spain
Algeria Gambia Malaysia (86%) Sudan
Austria Germany Maldives Sri Lanka
Bahrain Ghana Mauritania Syria
Bangladesh (82%) India Morocco (83%) Tanzania
Brunei Indonesia (72%) The Netherlands Thailand
Canada Iran Nigeria Uganda
Comoros Iraq (91%) Oman United Arab Emirates
Djibouti (82%) Jordan (71%) Pakistan (84%) United States (USA)
Egypt (74%) Kenya Qatar United Kingdom (UK)
Eritrea Kuwait Saudi Arabia W. Bank & Gaza (89%)
Ethiopia Libya Somalia Yemen
* In the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, and other European countries that resist the Sharia law, it has proven adept at infiltrating elements of the society that are left vulnerable.
In many countries where an official secular legal system exists alongside the Sharia law, the majority of their Muslim citizens favor making Sharia the official law.
For example, while Egypt's military blocked the Muslim Brotherhood's efforts in this direction in 2013, 74% of Egypt's Muslims still favor it.
Even in Jordan, Indonesia and Malaysia - Muslim countries with progressive images - the relatively secular ruling elite sit atop Muslim masses, 71%, 72% and 86% respectively of whom want their countries to be ruled by Sharia. And in Iraq, where the United States has been propping up democracy since 2003, 91% of its Muslims want to live under the Sharia law.
The number of countries penetrated by Sharia law continues to grow, as does the depth of its penetration in the countries already affected.
Islam's Sharia law is cast from the words of Muhammad, called "hadith," his actions, called "sunnah," and the Quran, which he dictated. The Sharia law itself cannot be altered but its interpretation, called "fiqh," by muftis (Islamic jurists) is given some latitude.
As a legal system, the Sharia law is exceptionally broad. While other legal codes regulate public behavior, Sharia regulates public behavior, private behavior, and even private beliefs.
Compared to other legal codes, the Sharia law also prioritizes punishment over rehabilitation and favors corporal and capital punishments over incarceration. Of all legal systems in the world today, the Sharia law is the most intrusive and restrictive, especially against women.
According to the Sharia law -
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death.
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Which countries use the Sharia law?
Muslims' aspired Sharia state is the birthplace of Muhammad that has no legal code other than the Sharia law and enforces it without mercy: Saudi Arabia. But as detailed below, the Sharia law is also used in full or in part, nationally or regionally in:
Afghanistan (89%) France Lebanon Spain
Algeria Gambia Malaysia (86%) Sudan
Austria Germany Maldives Sri Lanka
Bahrain Ghana Mauritania Syria
Bangladesh (82%) India Morocco (83%) Tanzania
Brunei Indonesia (72%) The Netherlands Thailand
Canada Iran Nigeria Uganda
Comoros Iraq (91%) Oman United Arab Emirates
Djibouti (82%) Jordan (71%) Pakistan (84%) United States (USA)
Egypt (74%) Kenya Qatar United Kingdom (UK)
Eritrea Kuwait Saudi Arabia W. Bank & Gaza (89%)
Ethiopia Libya Somalia Yemen
* In the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, and other European countries that resist the Sharia law, it has proven adept at infiltrating elements of the society that are left vulnerable.
In many countries where an official secular legal system exists alongside the Sharia law, the majority of their Muslim citizens favor making Sharia the official law.
For example, while Egypt's military blocked the Muslim Brotherhood's efforts in this direction in 2013, 74% of Egypt's Muslims still favor it.
Even in Jordan, Indonesia and Malaysia - Muslim countries with progressive images - the relatively secular ruling elite sit atop Muslim masses, 71%, 72% and 86% respectively of whom want their countries to be ruled by Sharia. And in Iraq, where the United States has been propping up democracy since 2003, 91% of its Muslims want to live under the Sharia law.
The number of countries penetrated by Sharia law continues to grow, as does the depth of its penetration in the countries already affected.
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Oh....whoops I forgot the bit about islamists wanting to kill ALL of the LBGXYZ people.
A closer example of a pure totalitarian nazi like ideology I have yet to find.
All of the Abrahamic religions are kinda similar in their original incantations.
Some have had a 'reformation'.....so basically they are 'Islam-Lite'....
A closer example of a pure totalitarian nazi like ideology I have yet to find.
All of the Abrahamic religions are kinda similar in their original incantations.
Some have had a 'reformation'.....so basically they are 'Islam-Lite'....
enjoying a few bong rips....... join me
