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[subrob]

Damn... Londoners got some style. Must be nice to be able to have a protest that size and not have to worry about masked virgins breaking coffee house windows or red hatted victims spreading hate. Props to you.

 

[gaiusmarius]

I'm sure England is all for us being in Germany they are responsible for both World Wars. They could also do it again if we leave and allowed them to mass produce weapons. We couldn't really nuke them without hurting the rest of Europe.

Same reason we are in Japan, Italy and South Korea we lost a lot of soldiers to save Europeans and Asians. Even if they hate us, we are the ones who let them govern themselves. It's not like we forced anyone to adopt the American Constitution.

Most of our wars ain't really as bad as some people act. Bosnia would be run by Islamic dictators without out us and they would continue their caliphate like the Muslims tried and tried again, even just before the Crusades. We've been fighting Islam since Muhammad, they want the world.

so the US is occupying Germany to prevent a re emergence of German national socialism? ie to stop the nazis coming back to power in Germany? if thats the justification, (it actually isn't the official reason) but if, why would the Germans pay 1 cent towards their own occupation?

as for certain wars of aggression and whether they were good or bad, thats a whole other discussion, but what matters is that Nato is supposed to be a mutual defense treaty and it's been turned into a tool of military aggression. whther you think that aggression is good or bad, it's not what people signed up for when they joined nato. and now Trump want them to pay even more, lmao.....

 

[cooterbrown420]

Well Cooter, you found us out. Our plan has been foiled by the magnificent Cooter. Damn, now we can't throw gays off buildings. No honor killings. No acid attacks, no roadside bombs. How will we recover. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

To compare America to Sharia law is showing how unbelievable uneducated you are. How many gallons of leftist koolaid are drinking today?[/QUOTE

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-orlando-shooting_us_576ad4f7e4b0c0252e7805ba

there are extremist on both sides my point is no one should impose their beliefs on anyone else. I know simple arguments are hard for you to comprehend. Christians claim they are for freedom but it is only if you follow their magic book. Anyone else is evil and must conform.

 

[rives]

whther you think that aggression is good or bad, it's not what people signed up for when they joined nato. and now Trump want them to pay even more, lmao.....

Not exactly.

He wants them to pay the portion that is, and has been, the suggested budgetary level and that the US taxpayers have had to pick up the resultant difference.

 

[cooterbrown420]

Sharia Law.

Islam's Sharia law is cast from the words of Muhammad, called "hadith," his actions, called "sunnah," and the Quran, which he dictated. The Sharia law itself cannot be altered but its interpretation, called "fiqh," by muftis (Islamic jurists) is given some latitude.

As a legal system, the Sharia law is exceptionally broad. While other legal codes regulate public behavior, Sharia regulates public behavior, private behavior, and even private beliefs.

Compared to other legal codes, the Sharia law also prioritizes punishment over rehabilitation and favors corporal and capital punishments over incarceration. Of all legal systems in the world today, the Sharia law is the most intrusive and restrictive, especially against women.

According to the Sharia law -

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38).

• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.

• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.

• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death.

• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.

• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.

• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.

• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).

• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).

• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.

• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death.

• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.

• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).

• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.

• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.

• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).

• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).

• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.

• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.

• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.

• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).

• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.

• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."

• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.

Which countries use the Sharia law?

Muslims' aspired Sharia state is the birthplace of Muhammad that has no legal code other than the Sharia law and enforces it without mercy: Saudi Arabia. But as detailed below, the Sharia law is also used in full or in part, nationally or regionally in:

Afghanistan (89%) France Lebanon Spain

Algeria Gambia Malaysia (86%) Sudan

Austria Germany Maldives Sri Lanka

Bahrain Ghana Mauritania Syria

Bangladesh (82%) India Morocco (83%) Tanzania

Brunei Indonesia (72%) The Netherlands Thailand

Canada Iran Nigeria Uganda

Comoros Iraq (91%) Oman United Arab Emirates

Djibouti (82%) Jordan (71%) Pakistan (84%) United States (USA)

Egypt (74%) Kenya Qatar United Kingdom (UK)

Eritrea Kuwait Saudi Arabia W. Bank & Gaza (89%)

Ethiopia Libya Somalia Yemen

* In the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, and other European countries that resist the Sharia law, it has proven adept at infiltrating elements of the society that are left vulnerable.

In many countries where an official secular legal system exists alongside the Sharia law, the majority of their Muslim citizens favor making Sharia the official law.

For example, while Egypt's military blocked the Muslim Brotherhood's efforts in this direction in 2013, 74% of Egypt's Muslims still favor it.

Even in Jordan, Indonesia and Malaysia - Muslim countries with progressive images - the relatively secular ruling elite sit atop Muslim masses, 71%, 72% and 86% respectively of whom want their countries to be ruled by Sharia. And in Iraq, where the United States has been propping up democracy since 2003, 91% of its Muslims want to live under the Sharia law.

The number of countries penetrated by Sharia law continues to grow, as does the depth of its penetration in the countries already affected.

I keep forgetting you are one of the main fear mongers against Islam on here. That is why you let all these other guys get away with their dog whistles and then threaten to ban me for calling it out. No one cried foul when Christians were colonizing the globe and forcing their religion on people.

 

[packerfan79]

Well Cooter, you found us out. Our plan has been foiled by the magnificent Cooter. Damn, now we can't throw gays off buildings. No honor killings. No acid attacks, no roadside bombs. How will we recover. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

To compare America to Sharia law is showing how unbelievable uneducated you are. How many gallons of leftist koolaid are drinking today?[/QUOTE

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-orlando-shooting_us_576ad4f7e4b0c0252e7805ba

there are extremist on both sides my point is no one should impose their beliefs on anyone else. I know simple arguments are hard for you to comprehend. Christians claim they are for freedom but it is only if you follow their magic book. Anyone else is evil and must conform.

Except, the Judeo-Christian theology is the basis for free will, the foundation of the right of the individual. I have told you this before, you just don't listen to anyone not in your magic picture box. Judeo Christian values established your fundamental right to speak out of your ass. Wether i , or anyone else likes it. Mabey you should think befor you criticise the foundation for the society that gives you more freedom than any in the history of the world. Ee may have problems as a nation, but we have it better than any country in the history of the world

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Fear monger?......lol

No matey I'm not spreading fear.......just fact. Perhaps you should actually read the Koran and Hadith, then the Torah ("Teaching", also known as the Five Books of Moses),....and then the old testament (bible).....

Perhaps, after you have studied these books, you might have formulated a similar opinion to myself......but maybe not because it takes much effort and concentration, and UNDERSTANDING to comprehend enough to actually form an informed opinion......


.....and I have never threatened you with anything, so don't tell fibs.

I keep forgetting you are one of the main fear mongers against Islam on here. That is why you let all these other guys get away with their dog whistles and then threaten to ban me for calling it out. No one cried foul when Christians were colonizing the globe and forcing their religion on people.

 

[cooterbrown420]

So knock it off, or I will have to start getting all dictatorial while chopping bits out of threads and having to sanction members with banning's and deletions of what has taken time to post....

maybe i am misunderstanding you here mate

 

[iTarzan]

Not exactly.

He wants them to pay the portion that is, and has been, the suggested budgetary level and that the US taxpayers have had to pick up the resultant difference.

This is true.

Yes it means they have to pay more because they were underpaying all along.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

All of Abraham's kids sucked.

 

[cooterbrown420]

I am no expert on Islam nor do I claim to be like some on here. What I do know is there are extremist in every religion. The majority of Christians and Muslims are peaceful and want to live peacefully. To pick versus from the Koran to justify violence is akin to using the Bible to justify slavery. There are just as many homophobic, misogynist, and violent versus in the Bible as the Koran.

Here is some info on Sharia law, real info not fear mongering.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/06/19/what-is-sharia-law/

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Gentlemen......can we not have this name calling within threads here?

Accusing someone of being some sort of 'ism' is not conducive to having any thread progress without having to have someone defend themselves and counter these 'ism' accusations with other 'ism's'......and then we end up with a silly virtual fight with words that just craps on any thread, and takes away from the debate/discussion...

So knock it off, or I will have to start getting all dictatorial while chopping bits out of threads and having to sanction members with banning's and deletions of what has taken time to post....

I keep forgetting you are one of the main fear mongers against Islam on here. That is why you let all these other guys get away with their dog whistles and then threaten to ban me for calling it out. No one cried foul when Christians were colonizing the globe and forcing their religion on people.

maybe i am misunderstanding you here mate

As you can see from my post I was trying to get various members here to stop calling each other boring-over-used 'ism's'.....You were never singled out, although you seem to be one of the main protagonists constantly calling members 'racists'....'far-right'.....and 'white supremacists'.....when quite obviously to me they are not...

Name calling/flaming is against the TOU here, and is not accepted within a reasonable debate.

Try and use actual facts when debating other members, and stop trying to play the victim while using boring overused 'ism's' to get you're point across...

 

[mean mr.mustard]

This is true.

Yes it means they have to pay more because they were underpaying all along.

Underpaying!?!



Any country spends far less than what the US taxpayers support.

2% seems steep to almost anybody but Trump...

And his wing.

 

[cooterbrown420]

Gentlemen......can we not have this name calling within threads here?

Accusing someone of being some sort of 'ism' is not conducive to having any thread progress without having to have someone defend themselves and counter these 'ism' accusations with other 'ism's'......and then we end up with a silly virtual fight with words that just craps on any thread, and takes away from the debate/discussion...

So knock it off, or I will have to start getting all dictatorial while chopping bits out of threads and having to sanction members with banning's and deletions of what has taken time to post....

As you can see from my post I was trying to get various members here to stop calling each other boring-over-used 'ism's'.....You were never singled out, although you seem to be one of the main protagonists constantly calling members 'racists'....'far-right'.....and 'white supremacists'.....when quite obviously to me they are not...

Name calling/flaming is against the TOU here, and is not accepted within a reasonable debate.

Try and use actual facts when debating other members, and stop trying to play the victim while using boring overused 'ism's' to get you're point across...

Of course they are not racist to you as you are a white nationalist also. Several members on here have come to the same conclusion and made similar statements. Some have even said same about you. No victim here just pointing out your hypocrisy. I am pretty sure I have posted more actual facts and not opinions than those members you are speaking of. The fact that you continue to allow them to post from known white supremacist sources shows your true colors. Sorry if pointing out racism bothers you but I for one am tired of all these clowns on the internet spewing their hatred whether it is blatant or coded. You actually think it is ok to post all kinds of right wing talking points against Islam with no consideration to the fact that you may have Muslim members on here.

 

[Gry]

Of course they are not racist to you as you are a white nationalist also. Several members on here have come to the same conclusion and made similar statements. Some have even said same about you. No victim here just pointing out your hypocrisy. I am pretty sure I have posted more actual facts and not opinions than those members you are speaking of. The fact that you continue to allow them to post from known white supremacist sources shows your true colors. Sorry if pointing out racism bothers you but I for one am tired of all these clowns on the internet spewing their hatred whether it is blatant or coded. You actually think it is ok to post all kinds of right wing talking points against Islam with no consideration to the fact that you may have Muslim members on here.

We are all products of our environments.

Gypsy got to spend time in an environment that was pretty 'special', where norms get shredded.

It can take years for some to reconcile themselves to such an experience.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

OK so I am being labelled as a 'white nationalist'....does that mean that I am white and have some love for the country I was born in?

If so.....then why would you or anyone have a problem with that?

I can't help being white because I was born that way, and I can't help being British, since I was born here.

I don't have any political affiliations, don't belong to any club/group/team/gang etc, and have never voted in this false democracy since I have never seen anyone up for election worth voting for as a politician in all my life.

You cannot silence one side in a political debate, so those with what you would consider to be right wing'ish views are welcome to post in any debate, just the same as those with centrist/populist, socialist or hard-left or anarchist views are welcome too also. You cannot stop one side in favour of another, just because you don't share their views....and as long as what they post is not full of personal attacks towards other members, then I'm happy about it and can see a discussion/debate progress as it should with both sides bringing their arguments sensibly, factually and constructively to the forum...

What I have posted about islam is the truth, if it is not then counter it and tell me where it is not true, and we can have a discussion around that.

If people get upset about me posting what is known to be true and is provable then that is their problem.......they can't face the truth or the facts that I have come to understand that comprise that TRUTH.

I have no love for any Abrahamic religions, and that includes Judaism, Christianity or Islam, and if making that apparent and explaining why I feel that way upsets some believers in those ideologies/religions then tough luck because I have a right to free speech particularly on my own site and believe that the truth can set you free.....

Of course they are not racist to you as you are a white nationalist also. Several members on here have come to the same conclusion and made similar statements. Some have even said same about you. No victim here just pointing out your hypocrisy. I am pretty sure I have posted more actual facts and not opinions than those members you are speaking of. The fact that you continue to allow them to post from known white supremacist sources shows your true colors. Sorry if pointing out racism bothers you but I for one am tired of all these clowns on the internet spewing their hatred whether it is blatant or coded. You actually think it is ok to post all kinds of right wing talking points against Islam with no consideration to the fact that you may have Muslim members on here.

 

[iTarzan]

I am pretty sure I have posted more actual facts and not opinions than those members you are speaking of.

No! No you haven't. You have done the exact opposite.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Trump just got done calling his own recorded audio fake news.

I'm not sure of anything in this world of alternate facts.

It seems if you don't agree it's not true.

 

[iTarzan]

Sorry if pointing out racism bothers you but I for one am tired of all these clowns on the internet spewing their hatred whether it is blatant or coded.

You accuse everyone that disagrees with you of being racist, misogynistic, homophobic and xenophobic. Which makes you despicable. So in reality the hater is the hated.

Congratulations!

 

[ambertrichome]

IMO ALL Religion a FAKE NEWS, and ways to control people. Both are responsible for millions of deaths. In the Name if God.

Fake Man in the Sky.

Jesus probably existed, but learned meds in Nepal, who along with the Chinese were far advanced in med vs middle east, and when he went back back to mid east, and could cure, Incurable things, he was hailed a profit.

Both Christianity, and Islam want to keep women in the house,, and controlled.

Plain and Simple. BOTH have the bottom line of men being100% in control, and the dominant aspect of life.
Many of the Christian religions in my part of the country... EAST KENTUCKY..... believe the earth is 6000 years old, and humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time.
They roll around on the floor speaking in tongues, and handle snakes.

I also was in Federal Prison for 6 years and lived with every religion, and race you can think of.

My 1st cellie was the #1 dude for the Farrakhaners at my prison... Summit Ky. Right next door was a guy from Palestine, who always wanted to debate the Farrakhan followers, but they never would. He was a really, really nice guy. Jimel and everyone liked him.

After a year I moved to a bottom bunk, and then they brought in a new guy who was in there for a HATE CRIME, of which Im also married to a Filipina. I made life HELL FOR HIM, and was Moved from my prison. No Way Im living for what may be YEARS with some MOFO like that. NOPE, AINT HAPPENIN. He also bragged to me, but didn't want anyone to know what he was in for. But me being his cellie, told me with the mistaken belief I thought like him.
He was only sorry he got caught, and the house didn't burn down.


He was in there for Burning a cross in a biracial couples yard, caught the house on fire, with a 3 years old boy, and a 9 months old INFANT in there, and they barely made it out alive.
He was White Nationalist all the way, and hated other races.

I like Black people, IM WHITE ) Mexicans, all races, and was never raised to have any prejudice. When I was a really little boy, Id walk up to anyone, and never had a fear of anyone different, as I wasn't raised that way, and I never saw racism in my family as a little boy growing up.

I grew up before civil rights, and in my 1st year, it was the 1st year of Integration. But I lived right next to a great big city park, and played with all colors, and never saw, or knew prejudice.

Then in 1st grade, I met many of the kids I was playing in the park with, and we became friends in 1st grade, and ALL of them that are still living, are still my dear, and cherished friends.
1 died when I was in prison, and was as good of a friend I ever had, and I was heartbroken. He died a week before I got out, and wasn't found until 4 days in his house.

But out of all the people, races, and religions of people I saw come and go, the most difficult to deal with were the Farrakahn followers, and the Christians that were rolling around on the floor speaking in tongues. In prison they of course aint allowed snakes.
But to me to quote any of thse False Fake News Religions as credible and 1 is less violent than the other is not my view, and is FAKE NEWS..