Nomaad OD:2010

[hanuman]

I love your signature image. Its an homage to the editing in Requiem for a Dream, yeah? Its funny... that film is one of my all time favorites...it combines my all time favorite director: Darren Aronofsky (Pi !!!!) , my all time favorite director of photography: Matthew le'Batique (Tigerland) and my all time favorite editor Jay Rabinowitz.

Don't forget the most important, Hubert Selby Junior, who wrote the original novel in 1978


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[nomaad]

He played the prison guard at the end, where Wayans was puking into the taffy, right?

 

[planty]

Where is this sun you speak of?

I think I'm getting a vitamin D def...

 

[nomaad]

yeah... i was just thinking the same fucking thing! boo. yesterday "partly cloudy" turned into showers. I was out scouting properties and got lost on one for 20 minutes in the rain. today.. same thing. sun just hit the dome for the first time... but there are clouds all around the periphery. i think my veg under the halides/movers is doing better than the one in the GH.

 

[planty]

How are your night temps in the dome? Those are key

 

[nomaad]

they don't go below 50. plants are growing fast. last year, my biggest problem was shock at transplant into the 200's. 2 weeks of arrested development. this year, my plants will be good and used to the environment they will be transplanted into.

 

[planty]

Nice

 

[CityOfTrees530]

really enjoy the dome gh, this weather has been unpredictable goes from beautiful sky's to showers.

 

[swicker]

they don't go below 50. plants are growing fast. last year, my biggest problem was shock at transplant into the 200's. 2 weeks of arrested development. this year, my plants will be good and used to the environment they will be transplanted into.

yea, i am worried about that here on the east coast, just put em out as sprouts barely on their third set, we've been having temps in the 40's at night in the mid Appalachian region

 

[nomaad]

that's chilly, but I have seen them survive worse. they just take a little longer to bounce back when (if) the sun comes out.

by the way... THE SUN IS OUT!!!!!!

 

[planty]

Already got 6 pots filled vitamin D stores up...goin to go pick my truck up and get hella straw

 

[danishpassion]

off to a good start i see
i wish you luck and a good and rewarding season
mine havent started yet and i havent decided on what to run yet

 

[MediNice]

Hey Nomaad, I'm hoping to be learning along side you this year. How did you like that Roots Organics soil last year? I'm kind of stuck between trying it or Tom Hill's recipe. I am also wondering which mutes to use, if not just brew up some teas. What are your thoughts?
By the way, I laughed my ass off when I saw your first post for last years OD. After skipping to the goodies and sweeing your results, I'd remark that your "newbie" status ended halfway through the season. Respect. I've been doing this for a few yeArs now, and you got your shit dialed in.
Ill be running the BD, green crack, master kush, headband, sour diesel, Hindu skunk, purple flat og, NYC diesel, white widdow, lavender, and strawberry cream out in Nevada county in 200 gallon smart pots. They are 6-9" tall right now. Do you think I need to go into bigger pots?

 

[HorseMouth]

Tagged, and much appreciated for the updates!

Also, big ups to Pacific Domes in Ashland Or. I love working w/those cats

 

[fisher15]

Hey MediNice..I remember the 'flat top purps, or purps flat from my NC crew a while back. Nice one. I'm growing a Gush from those boys this year.

In my opinion, the 24"x48" 200 gal spart pot is at least 2' small in diameter for vigorous strains. Like BD..maybe GC and others on your list?

I'll be a couple weeks behind you Nomaad, sorry to say. 25 yards of coco to expand, and it doesn't even get in for a week. Will try my best to catch up though. Don't work to hard opening those bags.

 

[nomaad]

Hey Nomaad, I'm hoping to be learning along side you this year. How did you like that Roots Organics soil last year? I'm kind of stuck between trying it or Tom Hill's recipe. I am also wondering which mutes to use, if not just brew up some teas. What are your thoughts?
By the way, I laughed my ass off when I saw your first post for last years OD. After skipping to the goodies and sweeing your results, I'd remark that your "newbie" status ended halfway through the season. Respect. I've been doing this for a few yeArs now, and you got your shit dialed in.
Ill be running the BD, green crack, master kush, headband, sour diesel, Hindu skunk, purple flat og, NYC diesel, white widdow, lavender, and strawberry cream out in Nevada county in 200 gallon smart pots. They are 6-9" tall right now. Do you think I need to go into bigger pots?

If I were going to work with a roots product this year, it would be their new soil mix. I think its called "greenfields" I got my hands on it the other day and it seems really nice. It has a lot of yummy stuff in it. Even if you are going with the T.Hill mix, you are going to be starting with a bagged soil. I have run about 8 different soils in my veg so far and Black Gold seems to have the highest N content of them all. A note about Tom's mix is that it is intended for a garden in which you will not be feeding during veg... just water. Tom's choice of B.Gold seems a little strange because it definitely dries out almost twoce as fast as other bagged soils. Tom tells me his choice of BG is based on its consistency from bag to bag and year to year. A lot of people who have used FFOF in the past did not use it last year because its quality was not consistent with earlier years. This year, they have re-adopted and I am on the bandwagon.

One note about the Roots soil (straight roots, not 707 which was not tested) is that the plants showed a serious calcium deficiency weeks earlier that plants potted in FFOF, FFHF, BG and BG coir and the Nomaad Peat Mix (all versions after the first which was lame). For this reason alone, I will not use Roots again. I will probably do a container or two with their new one, just to check it out.

My soil mix for a 200 gallon container is:

12 bags FFOF
2x 4cf bags perlite
1 bag Old Age dry grow (bout half the recommended dosage)
2 lbs alfalfa meal

I agree with Fisher that 200's are small for the more vigorous strains. I use custom 200's that are at least a foot wider than the normals. I did get regular 200's and 100's for my extra plants this year and hopefully I am going to get a couple of custom 300's...see where that takes me. The reality is that the strains I am running would need another 5 feet in their spacing if I go with bigger pots my plants will be in competition for sunlight... proper spacing is as important as proper pot size. You have to go with the coefficient between a lot of factors when designing the garden. for 300 gallon pots, i would say that 15 foot spacing is absolutely required. I just don't have the space... I guess I could remove some plants, but I think that I'll get more with the garden designed as is...

Anyhow... I have 9 pots filled so far... SO much happier with the soil consistency this year. I think growth will be explosive compared to last season.... Last year, I was supposed to receive a pallet of perlite with my soil, but it wasn't on the truck... I was on a shoestring budget and really had no idea what the fuck i was doing... so I just filled my pots without the perlite. I think the result was too much waterholding that caused the pots to be a lot colder when the temps dropped. This, in part, caused the early season shock and two weeks of arrested development. This year the plants are already out in the ambient temps and have been for 2 weeks or more now...

 

[fisher15]

Seems like a nice mix. Two bags of perlite should loosen things up. What type are you going with? I used Norcal last year, at $12/ bag..on the shoestring budget. Was going to get the Pharoc? or something this year but it's backordered. Back to the Norcal. FF big and chunky is super nice but like twice as spendy. Can't justify it on a big order.

 

[nomaad]

i am using the Norcal. Pahroc is twice the price. Lots of small bits seems like it creates more surfaces for the roots to work around... can't see the bigger, more expensive by double stuff being oh-so-much better... can somebody with more experience chime in here if they have experienced a noticeable difference in their grows based on choice of perlite.

 

[MediNice]

Thanks for The advice Fisher, and Nomaad. One thing I am wondering is if the roots will be able to grow into 300 gal, if I transplant into them from 15 gal pots in Late may?
I have only used Big n' Chunky with indoor. My theory is that the bigger the size, the wider the gap which allows more air to come through from the top. I figure since it compresses after a few month or so, the oxygen holding capacity would be limited on the smaller grains unless you can really supercharge your water with o2. I have noticed (with vegetable gardening) that smaller grains produce more fibrous roots, and bigger grains produce more hydro-like roots. I guess it depends on whether you are trying to go low maintenance with less watering or more high maintenance but, more accurate feeding routines. My 2 cents, but then again I grow in soilless most of the year. I'm just getting my feet wet in OD.
Maybe it's just instinct, but I think I'd rather add more coco than perlite to increase oxygen. I'm, thinking about trying rice hulls as well, but I have hears it robs a micronutrient (forgot which one), and might attract termites. But it does add potassium. Hmmm

 

[plough]

pics or it didn't happen nomaad.