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New GF....who has L.E.O in the family...would you?
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I have cop inlaws up the ass including detectives, captain w/state police, ex president of biggest cop organization in world, not to mention for years I worked where a good portion of the clients where cops.
Better yet when my wife told the courts I grew in 2001 when we where splitting up her dad's cousin was a court officer in the case and the the judge hated me and believed everything she said because of the relationship with the court, but in the end I still won full custody.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Better yet when my wife told the courts I grew in 2001 when we where splitting up her dad's cousin was a court officer in the case and the the judge hated me and believed everything she said because of the relationship with the court, but in the end I still won full custody.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
If you really want to go to put yourself on heir radar keep up your visible fear and distrust of the police, because it is the very thing they use to profile you. The minute they sense you are turned off by them you are telling them you are a criminal, because in their eyes who else would hate a cop? They do fucked up shit too, so do their friends and family. These people get passes on their fucked up behavior all day long and the only difference is these people don't loath the police and instead they interact with them daily.
I hate to talk about this shit, but I have gotten out of more than one serious felony situations because I wasn't perceived as a criminal, and due to my many years as a deviant poly drug user I could have caught more than one f's and where I grew up 3 caught you life.
I am sure if my circumstances where different, including my skin color and the fact that I had working and in law family relations with LEO in the past maybe I doubt I would have been so lucky. Know your rights to the T, have good lawyers and be respectful and likable as fuck and it might increase the luck factor if you ever have to play that card.
I hate to talk about this shit, but I have gotten out of more than one serious felony situations because I wasn't perceived as a criminal, and due to my many years as a deviant poly drug user I could have caught more than one f's and where I grew up 3 caught you life.
I am sure if my circumstances where different, including my skin color and the fact that I had working and in law family relations with LEO in the past maybe I doubt I would have been so lucky. Know your rights to the T, have good lawyers and be respectful and likable as fuck and it might increase the luck factor if you ever have to play that card.
Weird dude, were you growing when you met your ex-wife? Did you know her whole family was LEO? and you still married her... for love right?
"Better yet when my wife told the courts I grew in 2001 when we where splitting up"
ding ding ding ding ding you have won the grand prize thanks for playing and a big thanks for putting that one down in black and white right there brother man. that is exactly why I am saying to the OP he needs to GTFO of this situation right now.
your ex-wife told the whole entire judicial court system! it is down on steno bro, public record, that you grow. and I'm sure if a family of in-law LEOs knew you were growing and kept it a secret, you wouldn't be online bragging about that kinda stuff because that is a major deal in and of itself as well. knowing how to conduct oneself outside of ones home and still sneaking behind the in-laws backs is one thing. doing a blatantly illegal act in front of someone, a lot of someones, who have sworn an oath to uphold the law... and then getting outed in open court in front of friends of her family. well, as the movie story lines go. That sounds like one for Scorsese.
(p.s. having law enforcement in the family then you should know that they are made to swear an oath that includes members of their own family. Even if their own grandmothers are breaking the law, they are required by oath to uphold the law and bring her in.)
"Better yet when my wife told the courts I grew in 2001 when we where splitting up"
ding ding ding ding ding you have won the grand prize thanks for playing and a big thanks for putting that one down in black and white right there brother man. that is exactly why I am saying to the OP he needs to GTFO of this situation right now.
your ex-wife told the whole entire judicial court system! it is down on steno bro, public record, that you grow. and I'm sure if a family of in-law LEOs knew you were growing and kept it a secret, you wouldn't be online bragging about that kinda stuff because that is a major deal in and of itself as well. knowing how to conduct oneself outside of ones home and still sneaking behind the in-laws backs is one thing. doing a blatantly illegal act in front of someone, a lot of someones, who have sworn an oath to uphold the law... and then getting outed in open court in front of friends of her family. well, as the movie story lines go. That sounds like one for Scorsese.
(p.s. having law enforcement in the family then you should know that they are made to swear an oath that includes members of their own family. Even if their own grandmothers are breaking the law, they are required by oath to uphold the law and bring her in.)
The story is so insane, intense, lengthy and requires backstory, one reason I did not want to get into it.
I got into trouble as a kid, real nut, and subsequently got my shit together and didn't do drugs from like 15 to 25. I had met her in my early 20's and knew her family before they chose their careers.
Her parents grew pot when they where kids, in the baby book the front hedges where weeds. They stopped as the kids go older but at one point the one dude who would grow up to be a top cop was chasing rippers out of his yard when he was kid.
Needless to say her and I have had one of the most tumultuous relationship and we separated several times. When we got together again in my mid 20s I had started smoking again and she followed my lead.
Everything was cool, I grew while we where together, then she lost had bad postpartum and went nuts trying to destroy both our lives.
The heat I get from my sibling and his wife's family with 4 cops is worse as they are total anti-drug (bro and wife).
When we where going through the divorce and fighting for custody I knew what was happening and I knew what people where going to do so I taped and recorded all my interactions and took years of records and my lawyer used that to prove people esp my wife where lying before the judge.
5 years later we reconciled.
I will give you a peek inside some of the irony of my cop interacts and how treating them like humans pans out.
I was fixing a computer for a regular customer who was a retired sgt for the local police. Now many cops have a blue collar mentality in that they appreciate people who work similar jobs but they also act like they don't make money so they don't tip in cash, but if they like you they might throw you a pba card. This guy always made a point to come in on the holidays and give everyone at the store a card, and he expected to be "take care of" for it.
I smoke at work several times a day, boss always complains about it, but its normal in his culture so he doesn't do more than that. This is the big discomfort that I have to keep my activities on the DL, but not that big a deal, guy is nice enough and those cards work when presented right for the right reasons.
The guy comes in stinking like booze as is the norm for the older ones, and he is talking with my boss with whom I have been fighting. I had just went out to smoke, and the boss knows I am very paranoid about the cops finding out about my drug use (boss was a huge coke head back in the day and pretty much was always breaking the law).
Now the pba card he gave me got me out of trouble several times and he knew the local cops well. I was terrified if he found out he gave a card to a pot head, rather a card that got me a pass on several occasions where I had pot it could be considered a big betrayal.
So my fucking boss says something about me "smoking the funny stuff" and the cop comes to me and like pulls me aside and says is this true?
Now I am like wtf and thought I can't outright lie to the guy but I can't disclose the truth just like that so I said something true that would paint a bit of a picture.
"well, I have been known to enjoy the occasional grateful dead concert"
he comes a bit closer, looks both ways to see if any one is looking and whispers , " I have a sativa in my back yard" and started to chat a lil about weed. Gave a PBA card that holiday as is the norm.
Wasn't the first time I had my mind blown like that.
All I can guess is the guy knew I worked a regular and didn't cause other people trouble so apparently I am not a criminal and I obviously had enough discretion that I didn't put it out there just like that.
I do have this thing about me, people like me, they trust me, doesn't matter what side the fence, what color or what culture. I hate to think it is some physical trait but rather a charisma based on a genuine respect for all humanity.
To me it seems like some people are like dogs, they can't read minds but they can sense intention. If you put out the right vibe, like hey don't I know you, aren't we friends? it goes a long, long way.
Real hard to do if your filled with emotions like fear, distrust or other emotions.
Not saying you should expect to bank on being able to reach out and access everyone's humanity but it is easier if you don't have a them versus us mindset. I do not consider it as a benefit or detriment when I decide to do things, it has just ended up being behavior that has gotten me farther than others.
I personally don't feel I am a criminal I feel like no different than people who were civilly disobedient by supporting moral causes like the underground railroad. I feel justified in my actions and thus I don't feel the need for that to be actualized by others and have no problem being a absolute sneak about it when necessary. I think what I do is congruent with what is best for me and the humanity around me, I don't think as humans we can be asked to do much more than that, so the guilt ends there for me. I have my speech prepared for the jury of my peers if it comes down to that, wrote it when my kid where little when I sat down and questioned why I was doing what I was doing in the first place.
I was fixing a computer for a regular customer who was a retired sgt for the local police. Now many cops have a blue collar mentality in that they appreciate people who work similar jobs but they also act like they don't make money so they don't tip in cash, but if they like you they might throw you a pba card. This guy always made a point to come in on the holidays and give everyone at the store a card, and he expected to be "take care of" for it.
I smoke at work several times a day, boss always complains about it, but its normal in his culture so he doesn't do more than that. This is the big discomfort that I have to keep my activities on the DL, but not that big a deal, guy is nice enough and those cards work when presented right for the right reasons.
The guy comes in stinking like booze as is the norm for the older ones, and he is talking with my boss with whom I have been fighting. I had just went out to smoke, and the boss knows I am very paranoid about the cops finding out about my drug use (boss was a huge coke head back in the day and pretty much was always breaking the law).
Now the pba card he gave me got me out of trouble several times and he knew the local cops well. I was terrified if he found out he gave a card to a pot head, rather a card that got me a pass on several occasions where I had pot it could be considered a big betrayal.
So my fucking boss says something about me "smoking the funny stuff" and the cop comes to me and like pulls me aside and says is this true?
Now I am like wtf and thought I can't outright lie to the guy but I can't disclose the truth just like that so I said something true that would paint a bit of a picture.
"well, I have been known to enjoy the occasional grateful dead concert"
he comes a bit closer, looks both ways to see if any one is looking and whispers , " I have a sativa in my back yard" and started to chat a lil about weed. Gave a PBA card that holiday as is the norm.
Wasn't the first time I had my mind blown like that.
All I can guess is the guy knew I worked a regular and didn't cause other people trouble so apparently I am not a criminal and I obviously had enough discretion that I didn't put it out there just like that.
I do have this thing about me, people like me, they trust me, doesn't matter what side the fence, what color or what culture. I hate to think it is some physical trait but rather a charisma based on a genuine respect for all humanity.
To me it seems like some people are like dogs, they can't read minds but they can sense intention. If you put out the right vibe, like hey don't I know you, aren't we friends? it goes a long, long way.
Real hard to do if your filled with emotions like fear, distrust or other emotions.
Not saying you should expect to bank on being able to reach out and access everyone's humanity but it is easier if you don't have a them versus us mindset. I do not consider it as a benefit or detriment when I decide to do things, it has just ended up being behavior that has gotten me farther than others.
I personally don't feel I am a criminal I feel like no different than people who were civilly disobedient by supporting moral causes like the underground railroad. I feel justified in my actions and thus I don't feel the need for that to be actualized by others and have no problem being a absolute sneak about it when necessary. I think what I do is congruent with what is best for me and the humanity around me, I don't think as humans we can be asked to do much more than that, so the guilt ends there for me. I have my speech prepared for the jury of my peers if it comes down to that, wrote it when my kid where little when I sat down and questioned why I was doing what I was doing in the first place.
Every situation is different. It would be a beautiful thing if this dude and his girl could break out 420, Netflix and chill till whenev's... that would make me happy.
it's just that the risks outweighs the fantasy to me. The risks are real, the fantasy is yet to be seen...
knowing what you know now Weird... would you? Put yourself in this kids spot. knowing way in advance the type of shit that COULD happen vs. dating a chick without a LEO'd up family.
Weird, I have LEO in my family and family in-law. But, I met my wife well before I started growing and long before anyone swore an oath. Here's one thing that is real... I know if I piss off my wife bad enough... (I'm not talking about leaving the fucking toilet seat up either) she's making a phone call. because "Needless to say her and I have had one of the most tumultuous relationship and we separated several times." that's the best kind right... the passion. now my wife, she may even apologize for it afterwards... perhaps while I'm in jail or on paper. But, that risk is real.
now, starting a new relationship with the oath's already sworn and a kid is involved. A kid who's Dad, Uncle and Grandfather could put me underneath the jail... No thank you.
Dude might be a psycho anyways what kind of a father only has one weekend a month visitation rights? apathetic or dangerous?
it's just that the risks outweighs the fantasy to me. The risks are real, the fantasy is yet to be seen...
knowing what you know now Weird... would you? Put yourself in this kids spot. knowing way in advance the type of shit that COULD happen vs. dating a chick without a LEO'd up family.
Weird, I have LEO in my family and family in-law. But, I met my wife well before I started growing and long before anyone swore an oath. Here's one thing that is real... I know if I piss off my wife bad enough... (I'm not talking about leaving the fucking toilet seat up either) she's making a phone call. because "Needless to say her and I have had one of the most tumultuous relationship and we separated several times." that's the best kind right... the passion. now my wife, she may even apologize for it afterwards... perhaps while I'm in jail or on paper. But, that risk is real.
now, starting a new relationship with the oath's already sworn and a kid is involved. A kid who's Dad, Uncle and Grandfather could put me underneath the jail... No thank you.
Dude might be a psycho anyways what kind of a father only has one weekend a month visitation rights? apathetic or dangerous?
Well I am suggesting perhaps people should be treated based on how they treat each other not the labels.
I am also suggesting being intimidated or put off by someone who is a cop is counterproductive to one's long term freedom. I have lived a life where being exposed was unavoidable and found in the proxy not being put off and being reasonable bought me a lot of leeway.
I can't suggest what he do, I am just sharing a story from a different set of life experience, in hopes it keeps someone from going to jail or being arrested.
I have take one year off in 20 from growing regardless of the threat of the police and I have loved regardless of the threat of the police. IMHE if you posses a them versus us attitude all it does is disenfranchise you people which never is beneficial.
It does seem, especially here with the regulars that human interaction doesn't come easy for many of us and I get that too, which is why I know many people will never have any way to learn this stuff but the hard way.
I won't lie, if it weren't for working in the IT industry I would only know people like me, people who march to the beat to their own drum and have a hard time coloring within the lines. The real world is full of a superficial yet justifiable sense of being that I can't choke down either, but I have to remind myself they posses the same humanity and potential they just haven't figured it out yet.
Most people dance that dance because not only is it what they know, but many are wired to be natural playing that role. That is the gift of being a deviant, your not stuck in a mainstream paradigm, that is also the detriment of being a deviant, hard to feel accepted by the mainstream when your not part of it. In the end however they are parts of the same coin, phenotypes within the same phenotype if you would allow plant based analogy and all are built on the same foundation of humanity
I am also suggesting being intimidated or put off by someone who is a cop is counterproductive to one's long term freedom. I have lived a life where being exposed was unavoidable and found in the proxy not being put off and being reasonable bought me a lot of leeway.
I can't suggest what he do, I am just sharing a story from a different set of life experience, in hopes it keeps someone from going to jail or being arrested.
I have take one year off in 20 from growing regardless of the threat of the police and I have loved regardless of the threat of the police. IMHE if you posses a them versus us attitude all it does is disenfranchise you people which never is beneficial.
It does seem, especially here with the regulars that human interaction doesn't come easy for many of us and I get that too, which is why I know many people will never have any way to learn this stuff but the hard way.
I won't lie, if it weren't for working in the IT industry I would only know people like me, people who march to the beat to their own drum and have a hard time coloring within the lines. The real world is full of a superficial yet justifiable sense of being that I can't choke down either, but I have to remind myself they posses the same humanity and potential they just haven't figured it out yet.
Most people dance that dance because not only is it what they know, but many are wired to be natural playing that role. That is the gift of being a deviant, your not stuck in a mainstream paradigm, that is also the detriment of being a deviant, hard to feel accepted by the mainstream when your not part of it. In the end however they are parts of the same coin, phenotypes within the same phenotype if you would allow plant based analogy and all are built on the same foundation of humanity
get all the coochie you can now,,, as soon theres a possibility ass is all that will be on the menu.....yeehaw...fuck the police and their friends..i tell cops I think they are assholes and not needed every chance I get...fuckem
Never a choice, but a consequence. If I was that 'in love' the status of a person's relatives wouldn't change my actions. Same as having leo and anti-drug people in my family didn't keep me from growing weed.
I do what the fuck I want to do regardless, most people do to some extent (some more than others). I just don't guilt over it. I could be considered a psychopath or sociopath if it is perceived as a lack of conscious in regards to my respect for the law. However the law doesn't dictate whether I am a good person or not, the causation of my actions do, this is the measure I live by.
Some people are ok with hiding something from others, some are not. This is a different animal all together BUT I also believe in head management.
If your not the kind of person who in some way thrives or gets off being a sneaky deviant fuck well then living a dualistic life might not sit well with your being.
Even though I am this hippy that loves humanity doesn't mean I haven't spent my life being a deviant fucked up drug user who was public enemy number one. Big difference is I never let my drug use be an excuse to take advantage of others or compromise them. It is all on me and I am not ashamed. I have a mental illness most people couldn't handle and it is how I deal with it. It is what makes me as right as I can be and anything else would be fucking my fellow. At least that is how my sick, twisted dab addled brain works and I am not afraid to admit it.
I do what the fuck I want to do regardless, most people do to some extent (some more than others). I just don't guilt over it. I could be considered a psychopath or sociopath if it is perceived as a lack of conscious in regards to my respect for the law. However the law doesn't dictate whether I am a good person or not, the causation of my actions do, this is the measure I live by.
Some people are ok with hiding something from others, some are not. This is a different animal all together BUT I also believe in head management.
If your not the kind of person who in some way thrives or gets off being a sneaky deviant fuck well then living a dualistic life might not sit well with your being.
Even though I am this hippy that loves humanity doesn't mean I haven't spent my life being a deviant fucked up drug user who was public enemy number one. Big difference is I never let my drug use be an excuse to take advantage of others or compromise them. It is all on me and I am not ashamed. I have a mental illness most people couldn't handle and it is how I deal with it. It is what makes me as right as I can be and anything else would be fucking my fellow. At least that is how my sick, twisted dab addled brain works and I am not afraid to admit it.
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St. Phatty
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I would ask for a legally binding guarantee that, if you ever do go to prison, she will be your wife, and you will be allowed conjugal visits.
Sort of a pre-LEO-in-the-family-type-girlfriend Pre-Nup.
Sort of a pre-LEO-in-the-family-type-girlfriend Pre-Nup.
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