Yup, big long snake of pre-pressed flowers, did that all weekend....
It rocks, I can whip up a quatch of Rosin in about 10 minutes if I pre-make my snakes.
Roll the tool on the parchment to collect...
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Yup, big long snake of pre-pressed flowers, did that all weekend....
It rocks, I can whip up a quatch of Rosin in about 10 minutes if I pre-make my snakes.
Roll the tool on the parchment to collect...
lotus710
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i cleaned my whole grinder with iso. ground up a bunch of top grade nug. and sifted as much keif as possibly threw the grinder. took it out and wrapped it in a 55 micron mean skreen and pressed it for 3 seconds in parchment paper with a hair straightner and got a really faaat dab! totaly worth the gram of bud i used
and boy oh boy. it was tasty! i didnt let my straightner warm up all the way before i pressed to save terps
and boy oh boy. it was tasty! i didnt let my straightner warm up all the way before i pressed to save terpsI found sticking a rectangle or parchment to my thumb that was a bit bigger then my thumb, then using that to collect the thinner bits was faster than rolling a glass rod as I could collect about a square inch at a time. Just press down really hard for about 5 seconds then roll your thumb off the main parchment.
There will always be a need to make kief, all of the trim, little nugs, would be hard to make rosin without making it into kief. It is darker but i don't think that is such a bad thing...I guess you could make it into bubble then rosin the bubble hash, seems like a lot of work...
rasras
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Please try to profit with any kind rosin presses, i want one. No one can say they invented "cold press" tech because its been used by food industry few thousand years.
I have done few design myself. shapes, wawes, escape holes, filters, typical stuff for any kind cold pressed oils.
PS There was 31 death cases only in California last year with those BHOmb FACTorys. We cant continue like this. We need those industry size machines fast, please.
I have done few design myself. shapes, wawes, escape holes, filters, typical stuff for any kind cold pressed oils.
PS There was 31 death cases only in California last year with those BHOmb FACTorys. We cant continue like this. We need those industry size machines fast, please.
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I have already done this and you will definitely need a screen. The first squeeze (and up to 1000 pounds of pressure) results in a green juice/wax product. However, as the temperature and pressure increased most of the entire bud turned viscous and squirted through the 1/64" hole. I tried various stainless screens from 100u to 25u and nothing worked. I was looking into using sintered metal as a filter when I abandoned this idea altogether and went another direction.
I have over a grand in machinery already trying to find just the right commercial method and I believe I have found it. I will be testing this today and, if successful, I'll post results.
I will say, hot rolling with a slip roller didn't work. Draining through runoffs didn't work. I still say the hair straightener is ridiculous (albeit your 20% returns are not ridiculous compared to the 10% that am getting with all my other methods. LOL)
OK...... can you say.......vulcanizer?
Google that and tell me if this isn't going to be the perfect rosin tool. I will know in a few hours.
The vulcanizer looks interesting. but there is really two different method's i see. The horizontal for buds and vertical for the drip method. The t shirt press will work for both however in the drip method you can only use one edge. To mass produce you either need a lot of packets or a large surface area. With the vulcanizer there isn't much surface area For the price and for the drip method it will need do be mounted vertically. It will be interesting to see your results....
This won't work how you want. Your filters will clog. If the collection plate isn't warm enough the product will seize as soon as it touches it. If the collection plate is the same temp as the rest of the mold you'll burn off terpenes the whole time the product is sitting there.
okay so a decent to high grade kief contains at most 5% plant matter, a high grade nug which has been trimmed contains around 80% plant matter. I would assume there is at least an equal amount of disturbed plant cells along the trimmed edges of the bud leaves as there is present in the 5% of plant material in the kief, there is no physical way for there to be more chlorophyll holding surface area in only 5% of the total amount of plant material. I understand that material that is more broken down tends to put out a darker bho concentrate. but since we are not using a solvent, there literally is no way for chlorophyll to be dissolved and transferred unless thc is a solvent in which chlorophyll can be diluted....if the particles present in kief are too small to be filtered out by a 25u screen then it should be as simple as using a tighter mesh screen correct? has anyone attempted to press kief that was brought to an ideal humidity before pressing?
this is just for the sake of discussion, not to be argue.
yeah figuring out a way to extract from trim is fairly high on my list as well, this technique has me completely ready to move on from conventional hash and oil making(which I've just sub-contracted over the last few years). the end product is just too good...and the process is easy.
I'll be doing some googling....and I have a few extra nugs of XXX og to do some experimenting with.
I'll be doing some googling....and I have a few extra nugs of XXX og to do some experimenting with.
Well gang, I need to split for dog training in a few but, in short, this was a screaming success. I just got home so I have not had time to gather it and see what yield I got but from looking, I can easily say I am getting 3 to 4 times more than my previous methods. So, I am hoping to catch up with the rest of you on about a 20% - 25% return while I tweak the time/temp/pressure/RH. Sure would be neat to boost this to 40 or 50 percent.
I'll post some pics when I get back but here is the unit we used and one shot of an early squeeze. Later on, we were getting much better results but I don't have time for pics right now.
I pressed some chips that were already pressed once and it produced so much it was running out of the press. LOL Pretty sweet.
I'll post some pics when I get back but here is the unit we used and one shot of an early squeeze. Later on, we were getting much better results but I don't have time for pics right now.
I pressed some chips that were already pressed once and it produced so much it was running out of the press. LOL Pretty sweet.
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Fuuuuuuuck, this stuff is everywhere. I can't set my arm down without sticking to my desk. LOL It's all over my torch and my scale. LOL
Collection is DEFINITELY the next variable in the equation that needs resolved. I am just scraping and dabbing and pushing and dragging, which is OK for me because I just smoke what I gather. However, you commercial people are definitely going to have a better method of collection than this. LOL
Unfortunately, I really didn't have time to do much true experimenting while I was there. I had to get in and out so I did what few tests I could while I was there.
I ran temps from 200F to 500F (can you say, Flash Fry? LOL)
We kept the pressure lower for most of the runs. About 1/2 ton. We did squeeze one at about 12 tons. LMAO And, a few others at various force in between but all I could do was look at them at the time and try to compare to what we had already done. There was no time to label everything like I would have done (and, will do next time)
I definitely didn't see any advantage to temps higher than 220 -250F. Made it browner and it really didn't look like as much yield as a cooler press. But, like I said, I didn't have time to weigh individual buds so much of this is conclusion based upon limited data and my personal speculation.
Longer presses definitely seemed to yield more. Pressing too long (even at lower temps) still turned it more brown.
Sorry, I didn't get a chance to do more testing but I mainly wanted to see if this was the style of press I wanted before spending more $$.
I can not get a totally accurate weight because the shit is all over the place. LOL I have 3 or 4 jars and countless dabbers of various styles and creations that are just covered with rosin.
Before I went to his shop, I did weight a bag of 7 grams of World of Seeds Landrace Afghan. All cola. And, I was able to keep that rosin a little more separate because it was a much harder "shatter" consistency. I got a little over 2 grams of that so.... what's that? About 30%? I am happy with that. At least for the first test.
The other bag had 7 grams of Barney's Farm Critical Kush. Again, all top buds. Unfortunately, I also had a handful of various buds from popcorn to colas to do some basic testing and stuff got all mixed up so I'm not real sure about yield. However, I know I must have 4 or 5 grams of this shit sticking to tools and hanging off razor blades. LOL Cleaning the tools with my Nectar Straw has been fun. LOL
Overall, I think I did as good or a little better than you guys in yield. However, I'll bet a dollar to a dime that my pot totally sucks compared to yours and if you could run these tests on your weed, I'll bet we would see much better yields.
Also, I didn't have time to pre-press anything, make pucks, snakes, worms, dragons or prep it in any way. I grabbed a handful and tossed it on the parchment and pressed. LOL
Which is another thing to bring up..... I grabbed the wrong box of parchment off the shelf and I ended up with, what is called, Pan Liner. It is parchment on one side and aluminum foil on the other. And, while I think it might actually improve results for hair straighteners and some other current methods, I don't think it helped me. In fact, I think it hurt. A lot of this rosin seems to be absorbing into the parchment.
I think running this stuff right off SS dies is the way to go. I didn't loose anything (that I noticed) to the parchment when I used my other methods but this much pressure and heat will leave too much on the parch for commercial use (IMO).
I need to do some stuff. I have a couple more pics I'll post.
Collection is DEFINITELY the next variable in the equation that needs resolved. I am just scraping and dabbing and pushing and dragging, which is OK for me because I just smoke what I gather. However, you commercial people are definitely going to have a better method of collection than this. LOL
Unfortunately, I really didn't have time to do much true experimenting while I was there. I had to get in and out so I did what few tests I could while I was there.
I ran temps from 200F to 500F (can you say, Flash Fry? LOL)
We kept the pressure lower for most of the runs. About 1/2 ton. We did squeeze one at about 12 tons. LMAO And, a few others at various force in between but all I could do was look at them at the time and try to compare to what we had already done. There was no time to label everything like I would have done (and, will do next time)
I definitely didn't see any advantage to temps higher than 220 -250F. Made it browner and it really didn't look like as much yield as a cooler press. But, like I said, I didn't have time to weigh individual buds so much of this is conclusion based upon limited data and my personal speculation.
Longer presses definitely seemed to yield more. Pressing too long (even at lower temps) still turned it more brown.
Sorry, I didn't get a chance to do more testing but I mainly wanted to see if this was the style of press I wanted before spending more $$.
I can not get a totally accurate weight because the shit is all over the place. LOL I have 3 or 4 jars and countless dabbers of various styles and creations that are just covered with rosin.
Before I went to his shop, I did weight a bag of 7 grams of World of Seeds Landrace Afghan. All cola. And, I was able to keep that rosin a little more separate because it was a much harder "shatter" consistency. I got a little over 2 grams of that so.... what's that? About 30%? I am happy with that. At least for the first test.
The other bag had 7 grams of Barney's Farm Critical Kush. Again, all top buds. Unfortunately, I also had a handful of various buds from popcorn to colas to do some basic testing and stuff got all mixed up so I'm not real sure about yield. However, I know I must have 4 or 5 grams of this shit sticking to tools and hanging off razor blades. LOL Cleaning the tools with my Nectar Straw has been fun. LOL
Overall, I think I did as good or a little better than you guys in yield. However, I'll bet a dollar to a dime that my pot totally sucks compared to yours and if you could run these tests on your weed, I'll bet we would see much better yields.
Also, I didn't have time to pre-press anything, make pucks, snakes, worms, dragons or prep it in any way. I grabbed a handful and tossed it on the parchment and pressed. LOL
Which is another thing to bring up..... I grabbed the wrong box of parchment off the shelf and I ended up with, what is called, Pan Liner. It is parchment on one side and aluminum foil on the other. And, while I think it might actually improve results for hair straighteners and some other current methods, I don't think it helped me. In fact, I think it hurt. A lot of this rosin seems to be absorbing into the parchment.
I think running this stuff right off SS dies is the way to go. I didn't loose anything (that I noticed) to the parchment when I used my other methods but this much pressure and heat will leave too much on the parch for commercial use (IMO).
I need to do some stuff. I have a couple more pics I'll post.
I think this is the one where I took a stack of chips that had already been pressed by my vice and heat gun method and pressed it to 20 tons. LOL
As you can see in the last pic, toward the center it is real green and dirty. The outer edges are nice and amber. No real conclusion as to why.
I need to buy one of these for me so I can experiment in peace and actually get the 4 variables resolved.
As you can see in the last pic, toward the center it is real green and dirty. The outer edges are nice and amber. No real conclusion as to why.
I need to buy one of these for me so I can experiment in peace and actually get the 4 variables resolved.
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