New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

[Ringodoggie]

Color is often simply a characteristic of the strain. However, pressing for too long and/or at too high a temperature can also darken the rosin.

I use about 210 - 220F and I let it press until it stops running. About a minute or 2 depending on the size of the load.

Press slowly allowing the load to heat up.

Welcome to Rosinville.








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[Goats]

the biggest thing i can tell you about rosin, like any other extraction technique, is quality in, quality out. you can't turn shitty product, or over-dry product etc into top quality rosin.

for flower i find pressing between 185-195 to be good for what i am looking for. if you're squishing more than a few grams a prepress can increase yields a lot. we use 90 or 120 micron bags for flower.

if you're getting dark rosin my guesses are that the product is either old, too dry or just not a great product in general. either that, or you're pressing too long and/or too hot.

As Ringo said, welcome to Rosinville. rosin is my favorite form of dabs for sure. terps just as good as shit you'd pay $75/g for in a store and made right at home with no solvent

 

[redlaser]

I've tried 4 different brands of parchment from the various stores around here. I noticed they are all the same thickness (.07/.08mm measured with cheap Harbor Freight micrometer) and they are all 'made in France'.

Is this a case of the same company making all this parchment and it's just re-branded?

If so, then I guess cost would be the deciding factor for local choices. Target brand Up & Up is the cheapest around here not including Kirkland. I can get 50sqft for $4 vs 30sqft for about $4 for the other brands.

Is Kirkland brand made in France too? anyone measure the thickness of the Kirkland parchment? (or Raw?)

I don’t know if Kirkland is the best, but I can’t find anything wrong with it, and haven’t found anything cheaper.

12.60 for two rolls, 404 sq ft total.

They will ship online purchases for free in two days w/75$ purchase.

60$ annual membership though.

 

[robotwithdreams]

I will simply leave this comment here. Just because your rosin ends up really dark does not necessarily means its weaker or less desirable than lighter rosin. more often than not when i make rosin from properly aged and cured flower it ends up being very dark. Yet it is often in my opinion better than its lighter counterpart.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

You need to be a bit more descriptive with your terminology to convey more meaning to the reader.

What do you consider, "better"?

I can think of three different factors right away, potency, taste/flavor, and smoothness...

 

[Goats]

i agree about dark not automatically being a bad thing.

my trim hash squishes a lot darker than the flower but the flavor is really strong

 

[Mikell]

I fuggin' love trim. Treat it right and it is just as good as flower, hell it even washes easier for bubble and makes great sift.

Tired of all these cadillac kids who only know how to process the cream. One knobshit tried to imply there are different terpenes, and another different cannabinoids, in trim.

 

[Goats]

I fuggin' love trim. Treat it right and it is just as good as flower, hell it even washes easier for bubble and makes great sift.

Tired of all these cadillac kids who only know how to process the cream. One knobshit tried to imply there are different terpenes, and another different cannabinoids, in trim.

i will happily take trim from anyone not using it

 

[MagniKhan]

Thanks for the welcome.



I'm page 32 of this thread. It is hard to move through it fast without missing something, so I'm taking my time.

I did jump ahead and read a few pages in the 200 range before heading back to do a thorough read through. It's awesome to see the evolution of this tech in this thread, it's like a time machine.
I've done a bit of experimenting based on my reading so far and I'm getting the hang of it.
Thank you to all who have taken the time to document your experiences.


MK

 

[MagniKhan]

UPDATE- I used some week old (Pineapple Chunk, a serious giver of hash) flurrf and bamm it was all there. Nice color, great flavor (it is a bit runny from the terps, I assume at this point in my reading) and a decent yield.
I forgot to weight the flower before I started.....I'm sure it has noting to do with the dabs. Next time I'll get the weight so I figure out my yield.

This pheno of Pineapple Chunk has always been very sticky, produces tons of finger hash while trimming. But it has never worked out well as BHO. To waxy and not stable. Pre98 Bubba Kush on the other hand makes crazy BHO, can't wait to squish some.

I have a open blast set up and didn't really want/need to spend the extra money for equipment to solve the problem. So it has been used for dry sift and edibles.
Looks like I'm gonna run all the old stuff anyway. It may not be as nice as the fresh stuff, but it is stable, packs a nice punch and looks like a bunch of my better runs of BHO.


Be Safe,

MK

 

[Mikell]

Be a lot cooler if this website allowed video imbeding beyond YT...


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsx_rTRhGXn/

 

[Goats]

Be a lot cooler if this website allowed video imbeding beyond YT...


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsx_rTRhGXn/

looks really nice man! i don't know why using the plates to heat the rosin had never dawned on me. have you found a good temperature/amount of time that allows the separation to occur?

cool stuff mikell, i definitely followed you on ig

 

[Mikell]

I pussyfooted this round and opened it a dozen times to observe and take temperature. I think the next one will be better. I am trying to find no lip 20-30ml jars to watch it.

Raised the oil to around 50C for an hour followed by 30-35C for a day. I had to set the plates much higher to do this, roughly double. For now it seems stable. Only lost 0.02g from 2.08g.

 

[Goats]

I pussyfooted this round and opened it a dozen times to observe and take temperature. I think the next one will be better. I am trying to find no lip 20-30ml jars to watch it.

Raised the oil to around 50C for an hour followed by 30-35C for a day. I had to set the plates much higher to do this, roughly double. For now it seems stable. Only lost 0.02g from 2.08g.

good info.

here are the jars i grabbed because this store is pretty close to my house. i believe these are them anyways... they have white, metal screw-on lids. afaik these are the ones everyone is using for the jartech stuff.

https://wellscan.ca/product/4oz-clear-glass-straight-sided-round-jar-with-58-400-neck-finish/

i would email and ask just to be sure, but you should be able to order them direct from wells.

edit - here is a picture of the ones i got from the store above. they look a bit different than the ones i linked though...

 

[blynx]

I pussyfooted this round and opened it a dozen times to observe and take temperature. I think the next one will be better. I am trying to find no lip 20-30ml jars to watch it.

Raised the oil to around 50C for an hour followed by 30-35C for a day. I had to set the plates much higher to do this, roughly double. For now it seems stable. Only lost 0.02g from 2.08g.

Very cool!

I've been using these jars (they have 2 and 4oz if you want larger sizes)

https://www.uline.com/Product/Detai...VKx-tBh3uUAauEAQYBSABEgIaKvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I sat a smaller jar on a heat mat for 36hrs without opening it and it ended up making the rosin 'carbonated'. It didn't bubble when sitting there, but if you disturbed the surface or even slightly stirred it, a million tiny little bubbles started forming and they stayed, made it almost look like an emulsion.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

I fuggin' love trim. Treat it right and it is just as good as flower, hell it even washes easier for bubble and makes great sift.

Tired of all these cadillac kids who only know how to process the cream. One knobshit tried to imply there are different terpenes, and another different cannabinoids, in trim.

Life is easy when all of the resin heads are on the outside of the plant. I have this daydream about breeding a plant to produce smaller and smaller flower and more and more sugar leaf until the vast majority of the trichome head harvest is easily accessible via dry sifting without grinding up any buds.
However I don't completely disagree with the other guy about different terps. The leaves live in an environment with more airflow and more direct light than the stuff buried inside bud, so I can see how sugar leaf trichs might end up being a little different than their bud trich siblings because of those conditions.

 

[Mikell]

People are making just those strains, even breeding for narrow bands of trichome size and ease of hash making. With macro photographs one can see the downside of many hype strains re: long thin stalks with strong head attachments. It makes the flower look dank to the naked eye but is garbage for hash.

There would be some variation, just as flowers from deep within the canopy will have developed differently.




Any Canadians looking for bags,

Kootenaybuynsell on eBay is nearly a buck a bag and he just did a custom order for that price. Free shipping to boot. Haven't used them in awhile but I don't recall any quality issues.

 

[JRace]

I am very interested in figuring out what makes a strain better for Rosin.

How much is strain, how much is cure?

 

[beta]

Curing doesn't help produce rosin. tbh 'curing' is a bullshit notion in general, if your herb isn't top notch the moment it's dry, you did something terribly wrong.

Good rosin strains have fat greasy heads full of cannabinoids.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Curing is necessary for most weed types to make them "smokeable". Resin, and flower/ plant material. I agree its mostly not needed for a nice extract though, especially dabbing/vaping.