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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

ThirdEyeVision

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Someone on ig posted a vid using a hydraulic press and holy shit golden goo was everywhere...too bad the vid was taken down after only a couple minutes
 

Sunfire

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Bastards are ripping off my idea! Jesus I need to hop on this, patents!!! What was their starting material?

So how has rosin from year old plus material been coming out?
 

ThirdEyeVision

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Not sure, it was a few weeks ago and when i tried to rewatch it...poof it was gone. If the year old plus material is properly stored...it should be fine. Like anything else rosin quality is a direct refletion of the starting material. But the beauty of rosin is that you can do it to anything. Grind up your shake or trim, compress it then use a screen to press and youre good to go.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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got some numbers:

1.00 grams starting material, quite damp

0.16 grams yielded on first press in 5 tiny pressed balls in a hair press at 270 for 7 seconds or so.

.74 grams bud weight at that point, showing 0.1 grams of moisture escaped as steam. giving initial bud weight at .90 grams

second press gave approx. 0.02 grams. bud weight dropped to 0.70 shows 0.02 more grams of moisture escaped as steam, gives final bud weight calculation sans moisture at 0.88 grams, with 0.18 grams of extract yielded, gives 20.45% yield. or if you include the moisture it was 18%. this was with an OG cross, it is Highend(blueberryxrene)x ogkushS1 bred in Israel.
 

EsterEssence

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The press part is easy, having plates that you can keep evenly heated and will withstand high pressure is a little harder...I put 1.5 grams mediocre hash in the screen and got .5 or so grams of rosin...
 

Sunfire

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Has no one really tried experimenting with different moisture levels? As I was told first hand off forum that "dry as fuck" was working great.

I have a theory about pre Pressed nugs and kief not needing a screen to seperate contaminants. Fuck I can't wait till next week for my press!!!!!!!!!!!!! Arrrrrrgile Sox man!!!!
 

Infinitesimal

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got some numbers:

1.00 grams starting material, quite damp

0.16 grams yielded on first press in 5 tiny pressed balls in a hair press at 270 for 7 seconds or so.

.74 grams bud weight at that point, showing 0.1 grams of moisture escaped as steam. giving initial bud weight at .90 grams

second press gave approx. 0.02 grams. bud weight dropped to 0.70 shows 0.02 more grams of moisture escaped as steam, gives final bud weight calculation sans moisture at 0.88 grams, with 0.18 grams of extract yielded, gives 20.45% yield. or if you include the moisture it was 18%. this was with an OG cross, it is Highend(blueberryxrene)x ogkushS1 bred in Israel.

Nice thorough notes!

cant wait to see more notes like this on a larger scale.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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Has no one really tried experimenting with different moisture levels? As I was told first hand off forum that "dry as fuck" was working great.

I have a theory about pre Pressed nugs and kief not needing a screen to seperate contaminants. Fuck I can't wait till next week for my press!!!!!!!!!!!!! Arrrrrrgile Sox man!!!!

well i can tell you the way i do it with damp material, it really makes it contaminant free, with no screen needed. drier material will crumble more and either need a screen, or get more particles in your extract. i did two tests today got exact same numbers, and 0 particles i could see too.
 

Sunfire

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Pre Pressed pucks for non contamination. I'm just trying to get as many givens and minimalize the variables before I start my own experimentation. Got a few mason jars of good kief already lined up and I have a few pounds of B buds from last season to play with. Should be enough to get me through R&D.

If I went through all the work of proper dry sift I wouldn't rosin it. I just posted an idea for large scale dry sift on the bubble man thread that was stickied. I want to get some patents and start making the equipment, that would be too much fun!
 

Sunfire

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Maintaining the heat would be hard. When I though about this using the tractor. Now I'm thinking atleast 1 " plate should be used to hold the heat in as you unload them from the oven and prep them before pressing. You'll still need to do this with a steam roller to get heat on both sides.
 

Sunfire

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Hmmm, that's very true, but to what extent? Your for sure onto a good idea there sam. We really need to start using equipment to measure pressure with, I'm going to start looking at hydraulic presses with adjustable psi right now!
 

Sunfire

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Wow now thinking about it, I'm sure there's lots of discrepancies in people's numbers with heat as they are all using different presses or techniques and weigh different amounts themselves. The scientist inside of me is screaming for numbers!
 

Sunfire

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10 ton with a gauge for 280$ or 20 ton with a gauge for 420$? Anyone any ideas on how much would be needed without heat?

Honestly though idk if that will work too well because I feel the parchment needs to be heated to allow the product to run. The material might heat from pressure but the product will hit the cold parchment and not run out away from the material. Plus we still don't know how much pressure a ptfe or parchment sheet could hold.
 

Sunfire

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Those presses are manual too, will take a minute to pump up the pressure and then release it. An electric one starts off just under 3k for a 10 ton.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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No idea on the heat required but if you press hash with a multi-press it does heat up and ooze a bit, you just need more pressure to squeeze the oil out with the least heat. Maybe a slower press with more pressure??
I know in China they built a 80,000 ton press for die forging that shows what can be done.
-SamS
 

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flatslabs

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A friend got a 40 or 50 ton press at harbor freight for under a grand for doing something with bearings, the cheaper ones usually run off a small air compressor rather than have an electric motor.
 
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