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Hmmmm the fridge helps for sure but it won't stay in solution form forever. This is the second time I've had rosin budder up while in the fridge. You can see the lighter colored sections on the bottom of these dishes.
If the thca content is high enough with low enough thc and plenty of terps, it can't be stopped. From my analytical and that of others as well. I'm theorizing if there's more than 60% thca and less than 5% thc it's gonna budder. Looks to be about 15% thc or more it won't budder. Lots of terps help act as a solvent (they are technically solvents) which makes the material less viscous and aids in the precipitation of thca which leads to mild crystallization creating a form we call "budder."
Holy crap I havnt been in here in like a year! 300+ pages god damn!
Heady blunts and hmk still here that's awesome! Is Ester essence still here?!? I owe him a press still and intend on following through with that. God damn hair iron in a vice grip revolutionized my world!
And about aluminum platens. Yes dimples can occur as a result of creep due to excessive force. If you take a 1 gram nug and put 20 tons over it, it will mess up platens over time. Our 319 aluminum casted platens are standing the test of time. One set is several months old with lots of use and still perfect condition. Can even still see the micro machining marks.
If you "open in new tab" the pics are way higher quality.
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Ester essence, come out come out! This is cause of you brother!
https://youtu.be/ZLRsC8JlAw0
https://youtu.be/ZLRsC8JlAw0
What size plates is he using? 12x12?
good to see you back in these parts sunfire! that bit about thca vs thc content = butter makes a lot of sense lookin back.
but...wtf are we lookin at in those photos exactly?
but...wtf are we lookin at in those photos exactly?
Sunfire I was wondering where you were, thanks for the shout out, i love the rosin running from the plates. Directional flow is truly the answer to get the rosin away from the heat. I got a HF A frame press and took my waffle iron apart for the heat and attached some aluminum plates and pressed what i had for last year. I didn't do near the experimenting you did, it looks fantastic...
It's the dishes I do minimal surface area mixing in, from this video comedy video I bet you saw...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIbOpErDtN6/
Too bad you arnt into the artd group on FB. We've outlined and detailed the crystallization chemistry several times. I can go over it all here in detail later when I have time, it will be a long one.
Check out the terpenoids and cannabinoid fraction of solution seperating from the thca abundant fraction in the pic on the left of the layout. Gonna have to open it and look closer to see the darker liquid like ring on the outside. Lots of experiments still to come.
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Haha good stuff. I recall when you found out about instagram and its rosin heads, and went over there, never to be seen again! I cant stand looking at information on my phone, so i dont study anything on IG really. Never got into using it in its limited applications via pc either.
Yeah that whole thing way back when a rosin technologies guy was hating and reported me and the mods took down like 4 pages of my research really pissed me off. I went into a childish tantrum, went back and deleted all my research cause no one was getting my back, and then said fuck icmag I'm out. But that was a long time ago and I'm over it now. Learned a lot since then. That's when I started an ig account to continue publishing my research.
I dont know if this has been shown in this group or not. I'll probably get in trouble again, for advertising this time maybe hahaha but I will say, none are for sale right now cause we can't make em fast enough. But I want to get one of these to you this winter for your outdoor harvest endeavors. This is an older prototype the newer ones are way more sexy.
Also, this video is a really brief showing of the technique I've developed over the last year and a half or so. So people that dont know can benefit from watching it. We have a few more purely educational videos on YouTube as well. Once again this is not an advertisement. It's 50% me being lazy and 50% sharing educational technique with an extra 10% bonus reconnecting with Ester (fuck me that was fast response too lol).
https://youtu.be/T9AwjQzkaIs
Harvest endeavors indeed! May it be a bountiful season for all.
This thread. ... You guys are awesome! On a related note, my first press from dake ended up leaking, so they sent me a new ram/press part. I installed it and its not going up/down smoothly, almost like its touching/rubbing against something, makes a weird noise as it goes down, and when it returns its jittery,.... Havent even tried pressing anything with it yet, as i can tell its just not right.
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Did you apply load to it right away?!? Did you read the entire manuals and all the literarure?
It's customary to stroke the cylinder completely in and out 5 times before putting any load on it to lubricate the internal side walls and seals first.
Since they sent you new gear, did you fill and bleed the new cylinder properly? Could be air in there.
Dake isn't exactly a high grade press to begin with. Some 20 ton shop presses cost 2k. I understand it can be a budget issue.
Also, for everyone, no rosin press designers are giving out proper safety and care info. These hydraulics are not meant for holding load for extended periods of time. Never, absolutely never exceed 80% of the rated amount of force or pressure. It's not just about seals, the steel will fatigue over time. I have seen a lot of dake cylinders leaking from the same fitting that goes into the cylinder. That's from metal fatigue holding too much force for too long. Practice incremental pressure application and temps that allow for shorter presses. Low temp flower presses are not that glorious really and it's bad for the equipment. Myself and several others have noticed a less complete terp profile at 160-180F with flowers and opposed to 200-220F. The yield is much lower too.
Once upon a time everyone including myself thought the lower the temp and higher the pressure the better. Well it's been proven by many people and in my own research that there is such a thing as too much pressure. In my research I've found one really doesn't need more than 1k psi. 220F at 2k psi yielded less than 1 percent more than 220 at 1k psi. I did these experiments with 3 different strains, several times. @trichome_he8d on ig has been doing great data collection. He does share openly too mucheap but we often have long private conversations. He says he can get about 80% of the oil that will come out with only 600 psi with flowers. It is "possible" that too low of temps is also not good.
When I have time I'm gonna get analytical on the terpene profile theory cause I've talked with several people who have noticed the same thing with really low temp flower presses.
The point is, the hydraulics need maintenance and care. Oil should be changed every 400 hours. Never ever exceed 80% rated load. New cylinders pump 5 complete up/down cycles before applying and load. Try to hold higher pressures for as little time as possible. Don't assume manufacturer properly bled the air.
Oh yeah, lots of variables are effected by strain.
Funny i've reread the manual multiple times, but there is nothing in there about pumping it up/down 5 times. Now I will go reread it again just to make sure. Overall the manual sucks. I had thought by getting a Dake press, I was getting much higher quality than the harbor freight ones, while it's not thousands of dollars it is 2x the cost...
Anywho I havent even pumped it up and down 3 times because of the noise its making while being pumped.... havent applied any load either. It sounds almost like metal rubbing on metal for lack of a better description. Now I just wonder if hydralic fluid needs to get in that ram, but would think that would happen from gravity and the first pump. I guess I should make a video, wonder if my phone will capture the noise good enough. I tried taking apart everything, and removing the ram, then putting it all back together. I'm not really the most mechanically skilled individual, so this is really annoying me. I got material I need to process, and I didnt wana have to make BHO again. I got no problems with BHO, just my buddy with an oven is 45 mins away, way more convenient to go out to my own garage and press some stuff out in a few hours without having to flip and be there for 3 days.
edit: got a video uploading now. It captured the noise pretty well
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Go onto the bva hydraulics website and read the manual for their cylinders and also there 100 page or so general catalog. They provide an abundance of information. I'm not doubting it may not be in the dake manual. But lubricating and bleeding the cylinder is crucial in initial operation.
I would start with calling dake and explaining to them the situation and seeing what they say
I would start with calling dake and explaining to them the situation and seeing what they say
They are sending a new cylinder/ram. This will be my third now. I was instructed to take it up to full pressure a few times to lubricate the seals, and during this the new cylinder started leaking. I feel like they got a bad batch of them from China. They are sending me another and i'm sending the broken 2 back so their tech can check them out.
Thanks for the BVA website tip.
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Try & find a local silk screen printing supplier maybe?
