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New extraction technique? Rosin tech?

OrganicFarmer

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Typically it's only less stable the longer/more heat you use. It cures over time and gets harder. I've found you want your temps to be in the 180-220 range depending on strain.
 
People keep saying what temp, but doesn't that depend of psi? The higher the PSI, the lower the temp should be right? Some manual pumps say 600+ psi. Then the numatic models go from 800-6000psi. I imaging if you cook at the same temps, there will be a vast difference between psi's.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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There isnt a vast difference in temps required at different pressures, just some. Unless you are talking about a vast range or pressures, which we arent really. Moisture effects temperature and time requirements as much or more than pressure used.


Typically it's only less stable the longer/more heat you use. It cures over time and gets harder. I've found you want your temps to be in the 180-220 range depending on strain.


That depends on what you are extracting from. if you extract from fresh and or barely dry material, the extract is almost always very soft and even liquidy at times. extremely fragrant. Some sativas in particular stay soft even with cured buds too.
 

OrganicFarmer

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There isnt a vast difference in temps required at different pressures, just some. Unless you are talking about a vast range or pressures, which we arent really. Moisture effects temperature and time requirements as much or more than pressure used.





That depends on what you are extracting from. if you extract from fresh and or barely dry material, the extract is almost always very soft and even liquidy at times. extremely fragrant. Some sativas in particular stay soft even with cured buds too.

I agree, there are a lot of variables. I pressed some freshly dried blue Kush the other day and it was stable as they come. It was flying off the parchment when I was collecting it.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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Hashmasta-kut do you run fresh frozen? Or do you have to dry it out, or turn into bubble?

most strains 100% fresh are a bitch and kind of a waste. it seems hard to get a great yield. However stuff dry for 1-3 days can be quite excellent, for not only yield, but mainly flavor. After it is totally dry, a lot of terpenes have evaporated off that you wont capture in a heat press. But if you do it as soon as possible, you get more terps and i think some you wouldnt get at all if you let it dry out all the way.
 
most strains 100% fresh are a bitch and kind of a waste. it seems hard to get a great yield. However stuff dry for 1-3 days can be quite excellent, for not only yield, but mainly flavor. After it is totally dry, a lot of terpenes have evaporated off that you wont capture in a heat press. But if you do it as soon as possible, you get more terps and i think some you wouldnt get at all if you let it dry out all the way.

1-3 days from chopping the plant, or 1-3 days after removing a cured bud from a jar to dry out a bit?

Thanks

Mr. Roseberry
 

testymctester

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i posted all the presses that are being resourced from china here already the hardpressco press is 600 bux, all these shirt press rip offs are 200bux. anyone shelling out 1000s of dollars for these presses is just lazy and obviously has the extra money to waste.

Sorry I missed this Lyfespan, but where did you post the chinese presses?
 

heady blunts

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but dont you think terpenes are evaporating off too when you dry it?

absolutely.

the insta budder from 3 days since chop fresh squeezed herb is clearly the terpiest which is why i think we're capturing some live resin terps in that window.

as it dries it definitely quiets down a bit, but the smoke is still fire, and the texture is lovely.

i've had what i thought was stable pull and snapp suddenly budder up a couple weeks after pressing. the terps seem to be louder than the pull and snap at the moment of buddering, but then they rapidly diminish in only a couple days.

if that happens i'm like "oop, better smoke the whole slab!"
 
So this thread gave me some serious inspiration. I built the clamp press, melting into the pads. That worked pretty damn well. But the plates I used on that are 300F+ only, so not a huge fan. I then went and bought a MIG welder, learned to weld via YouTube, and crudely made this on my 2nd night of welding ever, so please don't judge my prototype welds. This thing gets the job done! Now I just need plates that go even lower, these only go down to like 275F. Getting fantastic results, such an amazing taste. I had been pressing with a hair straightener and my hands, but it's nothing like this. The FLAVOR! It's like Live Rosin.

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Enjoy :)
 

SouthernGuerila

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Not familiar with this technique but IMO and experience BHO(butane extraction) is superb.
If anyone has any lab results of the differences I'd love to see them.

BHO will knock your socks off.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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lol, get with the times, man. I did BHO for 12 years or more, starting in 2002. every day for over a decade, now i have switched 100% to heat press, since march. Way better for personal use, and someday soon, if not already, it will be able to made in large quantities easily i am sure.
 

Ringodoggie

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I don't think a light dimmer would blow. Most are rated for 10 to 15 amps. Do those hair straighteners use many amps? I doubt it. It should say on the box. If it just shows watts, take the watts and divide by 110 and that's your amps (assuming your on a 110v service).

I use a common fan dimmer for my platens and it works fine.
 
Regarding the dimmer, I tried a couple different things that didn't work.

First I tried using one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000W-Volta...Speed-Temperature-Control-03599-/130608914161

I hooked that up to an extension cord and then plugged the hair straightener into that outlet. When I dialed it down though, the volts went UP. That was really weird and didn't work. I assume the controller on the hair straightener compensates for the drop in voltage or something so you can't just use a dimmer switch?

I then tried the fan dimmer that I use on my exhaust fan and that didn't do anything at all to lower the temperature. That's the Dial-A-Temp controller: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Dial-A-Temp-Variable-Speed-Control-Dial-A-Temp/205553283

Perhaps I'm using the wrong switch, can you link me to one that def works with a hair straightener? Or are you taking apart the straightener, and just giving it straight 120V power and controlling that through the dimmer, bypassing the electronics that came with the hair straightener?

I also bought some of these 220v metal heater strips that are solid metal encasing a heating element with 2 posts terminals that I hooked the switch up to and controlled the temperature very accurately to play around with, but they have a bend in them and I need to see if I can heat them up and then pound them flat.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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ringo just said he used a fan dimmer. I never did it but i am sure someone told me they tried a light dimmer and it worked, i never saw pics of what style though. after some thought i am thinking some styles of straighteners are probably more easily controllable, and others defeat a dimmer possibly.
 
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