NEW Colorado Growers Thread

[who dat is]

Well that sux rocks! But they made the same mistake as Pueblo. They can not regulate a prescription under federal law. To restrict a patient is to endanger their life. Now you see why i keep scraping the bottom of the barrel to find enough to keep my medical license every year...That is the rule they can't squash...despite A LOT of attempts.
HA HA HA, my pissing and moaning is getting a couple of the POS bike lines removed... All you little POS need to know...I drive 500+HP monsters in this town...No-body has questioned me flattening a couple bi-cyclists before... This is Pueblo. Go back to home if you want to change things...We will kill you if you push too far. That is what the CIA alluded to in the early 2000s...we are stead fast.

Please be careful and don't squish any bicyclists.

 

[mule420]

I figured how to post pics I think... So I'll start sharing with the class so yall don't think I'm just a jerk... old pic test...

Check out my getto lights...

 

[Corvette Doc]

Please be careful and don't squish any bicyclists.

The re-paint costs suck hard on your wallet...but the punks need a jolt.

 

[redlaser]

cool setup, from the looks of the plants they were getting what they needed.

Is that Evel Knieval under your name? Could be anyone I guess but it looks like him taking a huge leap

 

[Corvette Doc]

cool setup, from the looks of the plants they were getting what they needed.

Is that Evel Knieval under your name? Could be anyone I guess but it looks like him taking a huge leap

That picture was taken several seconds before Evils wipe-out over Vegas...

i know i sound like a jerk but people need to understand...Colorado will kill you if you don't understand it. About 15 years ago i remember stopping at the new rest spot in Colorado City/I-25 exchange. It was about 9-10pm, i stayed late on san Isabel Lake that night. A couple of idiots from Oklahoma and Texas were arguing about going out into the fields to find the crying baby they were hearing...I told them to go home and ignore those mountain lion calls...I still wonder if they headed that warning.
3 years ago i went to watch the (i think it was called frost fest) fly-fishing competition on the lower Ark. I decided to blaze a new trail...little did i know a bear had set a large den just below the Valkerie bridge. Yeah. there are things you need to know before coming here...if you want to live. Colorado kills idiots...look at Sunny and a few others.

 

[redlaser]

The re-paint costs suck hard on your wallet...but the punks need a jolt.

Aren't doctors supposed to take an oath or at least go by the ethic of " Above all else do no harm" meaning don't make anything worse for a patient.?

I realize your not talking about driving over patients but it seems like it would apply to laypeople as well.

probably one of those situations where if its not seen it didn't happen, but seems like it could affect an ability to keep a license if things lined up right witness wise.

not cool at all if your mowing down people just wanting to ride their bike. It's a little different if you had a legitimate beef with an individual that warranted the treatment, course you'd have to accept a serious charge if you got caught.

 

[Corvette Doc]

Aren't doctors supposed to take an oath or at least go by the ethic of " Above all else do no harm" meaning don't make anything worse for a patient.?

I realize your not talking about driving over patients but it seems like it would apply to laypeople as well.

probably one of those situations where if its not seen it didn't happen, but seems like it could affect an ability to keep a license if things lined up right witness wise.

not cool at all if your mowing down people just wanting to ride their bike. It's a little different if you had a legitimate beef with an individual that warranted the treatment, course you'd have to accept a serious charge if you got caught.

First point...Corvette Doc... I rebuild cars not people. I did my time playing search and rescue years ago...The pigs made me quit.
The D.A.R.E. Trans am in pueblo...I tore it to the frame and built it HARD. I was duped into that project. I gave it the best 400CID Pontiac block...The stupid pigs went back to a 403 Olds POS. I spent weeks tuning the suspension, and built it a 4 wheel disk braking system. I wired most of it's dash and main electric(from the fuse box to look stock).
See i build serious hard core cars. The pigs couldn't handle what i gave them...And that is the major disconnect they could never understand.
Squashing a spandex clad clown...It would be hard to get convicted for anything here from that... That is why i am still a native and you aren't. Untill you understand...Colorado will keep trying to kill ya.

The last ticket i got was from a POS state patrol FU. He gave me a ticket for not wearing the stock seat belt set-up...I was wearing a 5 point harness. And the judge wouldn't even let me talk before pronouncing me guilty...Yeah, i have a few heads i would love to take if this were a perfect world.

 

[redlaser]

Trust me, there are some trying to attach amendments to Colorado's constitution that will partly nullify A64...You want to stop them.

BTW i maintain a medical license just so i can sue Pueblo for violating HIPA laws(they say we have to register with them...not me, EVER).That should be worth about 5-10mil...Enough to bankrupt them unless they re-write in a manner more to my liking. That is what my fight is all about.

I must have misinterpreted the medical license part of this post, that and the Doc part of your handle.
Only reason I'm not a Colorado native is that I was born elsewhere. I'm not sure why Colorado wants to kill me but they will have to wait until I come back again or come to California to find me.

 

[Corvette Doc]

I must have misinterpreted the medical license part of this post, that and the Doc part of your handle.
Only reason I'm not a Colorado native is that I was born elsewhere. I'm not sure why Colorado wants to kill me but they will have to wait until I come back again or come to California to find me.

It is not the people...it is the extreme harsh conditions that our environment has to keep things normal...You push against them. you usually die hard and fast. That is COLORADO.

 

[who dat is]

I ain't skeerd of Colorado. But I have a healthy respect for it.

I don't wear spandex either but like to ride my bike. It's fun passing cars on windy roads. I had a guy one time swerve at me when I was in the biking lane and I still don't understand what that was about, flicking me off and stuff. It's in everyone's best interest that they keep going and don't fuck with me.

I don't understand the animosity towards bicyclists Doc? Shit is pretty fun and always gets me in a better mood. That is until some jack off wants to holler at me for no reason or something like that.

 

[who dat is]

I figured how to post pics I think... So I'll start sharing with the class so yall don't think I'm just a jerk... old pic test... [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=20320&pictureid=426413&thumb=1]View Image[/url]

Check out my getto lights...

That IS pretty hoopdy. I think we've all been there though. Seeing that reminds me of a tiny little flower chamber I made out of some furniture and CFL lights with computer fans for exhaust. I vegged some plants in there but that was all that came of that. That was the 2007 southeast days for sure.

 

[MJPassion]

From the times call paper the proposed language...

Cut and pasted
Currently, Longmont residents are governed by state law, which allows Coloradans to grow up to six plants per resident over 21 in their homes for personal use. Marijuana use and cultivation is still illegal under federal law. But under Colorado law, plants must be kept in an enclosed, locked area that can't be viewed openly. Municipalities can pass stricter laws related to home grows if they choose.

The council generally approved of the direction staff proposed in the draft ordinance. The draft ordinance would prohibit grows:
• located anywhere other than a primary residence

• with more than six plants per residence

• outdoors

• not in a secure location or accessible to people under 21 years old

• using compressed flammable gas (butane)

• smells strongly enough that it is "detectable by a person with an ordinary sense of smell" from any adjoining property or public right-of-way

• does not follow the rest of Longmont's city codes

Councilwoman Polly Christensen was the only one of the six council members present (Councilman Brian Bagley was absent) who advocated for allowing residents to grow marijuana plants outside.

"It doesn't make sense to forbid them to grow outside when plants are meant to be grown outside. We would confine them to inside housing, which we desperately need," Christensen said.

After staff members explained, however, how municipal law must intersect with Colorado law and other concerns with outdoor marijuana plants, the other five council members did not take to Christensen's idea.

Police Officer Sara Aerne told council that, besides odor, outdoor marijuana plants also tend to pose security problems with theft.

"There are tons of questions with theft and constant calls from neighbors about someone growing pot plants over the fence," Aerne said in response to a question as to why the plants wouldn't be allowed in a greenhouse.

Additionally, Christensen had concerns about the provision of the draft ordinance that would allow Longmont inspectors to enter any home where a grow is operating "during reasonable hours" to make sure the grow complies with city code.

"If there was a 24-hour or 48-hour notice I feel people wouldn't mind as much," Christensen said. "I think it's just treating people with medical conditions or growing for their own use assuming they're criminals. It would be more respectful to give them notice."

Mayor Dennis Coombs said that he thought giving someone notice could cause them to hide excess plants or other violations. In general, the council didn't reach consensus around changing the draft-ordinance language to provide more notice.

Under the draft, a violation would be an administrative penalty. Council did, however, reach a consensus for higher penalty fees.

"I like administrative penalties but I would suggest though they need to be higher than the potential value of the product that's being produced so there's a reason for them to not want to violate our code," Councilman Jeff Moore said. "So $100 is not adequate. Six (plants) could be, I don't know, $1,000 worth of product?"

Assistant City Attorney Teresa Taylor Tate clarified that Longmont is allowed to fine people no more than $999 per violation. Councilman Gabe Santos asked that there be a stiffer punishment — perhaps a criminal violation — for repeat offenders. The council reached a consensus on that point.

They also reached a consensus on asking for clarification on the odor piece of the proposed ordinance.

Assistant City Manager Shawn Lewis said that when staff brings the ordinance back for first reading on Sept. 27, they will provide the council with some alternate language because there are machines that can measure odor.

Go ahead & let em pass it...
This law, in it's entirety, is a blatant violation of individuals Rights.

U.S. SUPREME COURT rulling in Maybury v Madison said "Any law that violates the Constitution is void".
This ruling has never been overturned.

 

[Jhhnn]

Thanks, MJ Passion.

Any ordinance that attempts to restrict plant counts more than the 6/3 *per person* provisions of A64 is obviously unconstitutional. The only reason they've never been struck down is that they've never been enforced.

Polly Christensen was the only one really making sense at all. Kudos to her.

 

[Corvette Doc]

I ain't skeerd of Colorado. But I have a healthy respect for it.

I don't wear spandex either but like to ride my bike. It's fun passing cars on windy roads. I had a guy one time swerve at me when I was in the biking lane and I still don't understand what that was about, flicking me off and stuff. It's in everyone's best interest that they keep going and don't fuck with me.

I don't understand the animosity towards bicyclists Doc? Shit is pretty fun and always gets me in a better mood. That is until some jack off wants to holler at me for no reason or something like that.

The truth is i don't care about the people riding their bikes...they are a good thing.
What Pueblo decided to do making these idiotically placed bike lanes is a serious problem in this town.
You can sit there all day and maybe count 5-10 cyclists, but you see over a thousand motorists that are being put through some confusing and completely ill-designed things thanks to these lanes. Careful designing might make it better, but trying to retro these onto streets that were laid out over a century ago tends to lead to giant head-aches that people just shouldn't have to deal with.
I have only had one accident with a bicycle...i still don't know how he managed to run into the back of my car while i was sitting at a light...And of course they don't have insurance.
The news just said that they are removing the major problem on 5th street on ramp...A bike lane going to the interstate where it is illegal to ride a bike...The guys drawing these lanes were smoking some really good stuff.

 

[Avinash.miles]

i have to agree with Corvette doc that whoever designed some of the bicycle lanes in colorado must have been smoking something laced with something....
i remember some ridiculous bike lanes in loveland; don't make no damn sense.
and if you ever drive 36 from boulder north to lyons.... on a weekend.... in spring or summer.... these people ride like 3 wide across or more when it's supposed to be single file....
i remember reading some absolutely hilarious posts in the "rants and raves" section of boulder craigslist bitching about bicyclists on 36

i am in no way endorsing the squishing of bicyclists

 

[Jhhnn]

i have to agree with Corvette doc that whoever designed some of the bicycle lanes in colorado must have been smoking something laced with something....
i remember some ridiculous bike lanes in loveland; don't make no damn sense.
and if you ever drive 36 from boulder north to lyons.... on a weekend.... in spring or summer.... these people ride like 3 wide across or more when it's supposed to be single file....
i remember reading some absolutely hilarious posts in the "rants and raves" section of boulder craigslist bitching about bicyclists on 36

i am in no way endorsing the squishing of bicyclists

Traffic planners are indeed a strange breed. Denver's "traffic calming" plan apparently calls for pushing all the traffic onto the major arterials so that they turn into parking lots at rush hour.

Don't get me started on suburban roundabouts. There's a reason nobody put them in for the last 75 years. The auto body guys get more business because of them, I'm sure.

 

[Avinash.miles]

Traffic planners are indeed a strange breed. Denver's "traffic calming" plan apparently calls for pushing all the traffic onto the major arterials so that they turn into parking lots at rush hour.

Don't get me started on suburban roundabouts. There's a reason nobody put them in for the last 75 years. The auto body guys get more business because of them, I'm sure.

yhea, whoever designed what they did to alameda and santa fe and i25 should be submitted to some form of obscure unsual torture, because that's what going thru that intersection is like now.

 

[Corvette Doc]

At least up around Loveland, Boulder, Breckenridge, and places like that there are a large number of cyclists. Pueblo just doesn't have anywhere near the numbers to justify these lanes.

 

[Seaf0ur]

What Pueblo decided to do making these idiotically placed bike lanes is a serious problem in this town.
You can sit there all day and maybe count 5-10 cyclists, but you see over a thousand motorists that are being put through some confusing and completely ill-designed things thanks to these lanes.

THIS.

In some intersections there is only a "turning lane" and "bike lane" with no straight path for vehicles only.

In other intersections the fucking "bike lane" is sandwiched between the forward path and the right turn lane.

Pueblo is literally one of the shittiest places I've lived in Colorado, and I've lived right off colfax in saudi auroria.

 

[MileHighGlass]

THIS.

In some intersections there is only a "turning lane" and "bike lane" with no straight path for vehicles only.

In other intersections the fucking "bike lane" is sandwiched between the forward path and the right turn lane.

Pueblo is literally one of the shittiest places I've lived in Colorado, and I've lived right off colfax in saudi auroria.

Some hot chicks around that way on colfax though.