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bsgospel

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poppin in not to sway away from the politics but whats everyone got planned for outdoors this season.

im hoping to sucesfully run some
stardawg.
sour d

black eyed katie
(Fall 97 [Purple Urkle x OG Kush] x Phishhead Kush [OG Kush x Lowland Afghan])

purple floss
Chimera's Mental Floss x (Afgooey x Double Purple Doja)

k2xflo
(hindu kush x white widow) x flo

ambulance x flo
(Bio-Diesel #2 x zf) xflo

ive been wanting to pick up some autoflowers but am concerned about potency

any tips or suggestions?

any tips or suggestions for pairings for the listed strains above? im alittle over whelmed thinking about the possiblities.

Ah, the Purple Floss re-appears (if it's the same I'm thinking of.) The yield indoors was awesome, I'd follow any diaries you put up on IC to see how it does outdoors. Are there any shops selling cuts of that or did you get it from a friend/acquaintance?

As for the K2 x Flo- I can't think of more opposite strains to cross. The K2 was a complete mistake to run indoors unless you wanted it to cover 3 tables with branches and buds wayyyy too far apart. I don't know how much of that structure stayed in your cross but I'd train it early and often.

Hope your season goes well :tiphat:
 
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As stated just an FYI Ganoderma.

As an avid consumer it's tough to find acceptable flower in the REC market when I don't have my own flower to consume.
So FUCK Good Meds for being greedy. :biggrin:
 

Seaf0ur

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As stated just an FYI Ganoderma.

As an avid consumer it's tough to find acceptable flower in the REC market when I don't have my own flower to consume.
So FUCK Good Meds for being greedy. :biggrin:

I'd be more surprised if you had a recommendation for a warehouse op that actually produced decent clean flower.
I looked and I looked...
Perhaps the fact that I grow with no bottles and no chemicals or pesticides has me used to the actual flavor of cannabis.
Every time I've had to buy greens from a shop they've been tainted with the flavor of general hydroponics "organics" or heavy 16 or botanicare... or worse.
When I lived in Denver, I got to where I could generally tell if common nutes were used, since they all give off an aftertaste.


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You almost cant blame them... fucking big investment... when I got hemp russet mites, I treated the plants with kontos to save the genetics, but I fully vegged them while treating them and then I took clones off the treated plants and cut em all down right when they were ready to flower, tossing out all excess plant material. I burned lights 18 on for 5-6 months just to get to flower. These joints have Stanley Stoner as employees who may have their own home grows, may have dirty practices, and may bring in new pests on a potential daily basis.

Forget about projected losses from expected sales... forget about limited stock on shelves or having to buy other warehouse greens to fill a shop shelf... just think about what that would cost in those lil gov't required yellow rfid tags... Its pretty much as though they cannot do anything else, therefore, I would not expect decent flowers from a warehouse grow. Pests can get out of hand fast... the warehouse "master grower" (lol) will always act drastically with the harshest chemical pesticides allowed (and sometimes ones that aren't) so, that should be expected. I mean, it'd be nice otherwise, but this is not the first time this has happened, not even uncommon... it helps to be clear and honest when assessing a situation... and all warehouse greens are in the same boat here... they'll save the crop by any means necessary almost all of the time.
 

Ganoderma

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Perhaps the fact that I grow with no bottles and no chemicals or pesticides has me used to the actual flavor of cannabis.

Many things can impact the flavor or taste. Your medium, does that too. I can tell the difference in the taste of stuff I grow in coco and the stuff I grow in a medium-less hydroponic system. The hydro stuff wins best taste, the coco doesn't taste as well, it doesn't taste as clean. I've mentioned to other people about about not liking the taste of coco grown buds and they look at me like I'm crazy or something.
 

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I remember when Seaf0ur complimented me on the clean taste of my organic buds. I was flattered, to say the least. I've been lucky enough to keep it that way, only needing gnatrol to cope with occasional fungus gnats.

I've remained leery of introducing cuts because of the extremely resistant pests inadvertently created by cannabis growers. Growers with a helluva lot more savvy than I have tried to kill 'em with God only knows what, and they're still kicking, stronger than before. Just growing from seeds avoids those kinds of problems, I think. I'm just having fun, anyway, trying to do it well, trying to bring out the magic in whatever I'm growing.

Eskobar's Oaxacan really surprised me. I was expecting something narrow leaf, a classic New World sativa & it's not that at all. I think it's a unique stabilized hybrid cultivar of fairly modern origin, maybe dating from the 70's. Whatever it is, it's damned nice weed & easy to grow, quite robust, so I grew more. It's nearing harvest so I'll post more about it when the time comes.
 

Avinash.miles

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Eskobar's Oaxacan really surprised me. I was expecting something narrow leaf, a classic New World sativa & it's not that at all. I think it's a unique stabilized hybrid cultivar of fairly modern origin, maybe dating from the 70's. Whatever it is, it's damned nice weed & easy to grow, quite robust, so I grew more. It's nearing harvest so I'll post more about it when the time comes.
J, did u keep clones off one of those oaxacans? that's something i'd be seriously interested in trying out...
what is the smell / flavor on it like?
 
Currently working in the industry and I can't believe the things I have seen in my short time working in a warehouse, the coco fanboys all have these for eyes $$
 

Jhhnn

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J, did u keep clones off one of those oaxacans? that's something i'd be seriously interested in trying out...
what is the smell / flavor on it like?

I normally don't clone anything but I would have given it a whirl had I known you were interested.

It doesn't have a strong nose. Not skunky at all. To me, the smell is soft, sweet, spicy & peppery when dried. When I rub my fingers on a stem & hold them up to my nose, the smell reminds me oddly of Wrigley's spearmint gum. The purple pheno seems fruitier. It smokes earthy & a little sweet.

Seeds are inexpensive & the service was good, however. His Jalisco Jaze is also quite good & probably a little more potent.
 

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I guess it goes to show Colorado doesn't have it's head as far up it's ass as a I thought. That's one thing their doing to protect us. Now if they would only prohibit employers from drug testing. Seems like discrimination based on a medical disability.:tiphat:

see.... i think the opposite way
seems like it shows the state has its head way way up in ass, like farther than i thought possible
duno what you mean by trying to protect "us"... if by "us" you mean rec weed store owners, rec MIPs owners, and rec grow owners , tax agents, tax collectors, license issuing government employees.... then i agree

some cops in cali stood up to feds (by not cooperating/playing along) - based on location not based on a state law telling them so (like will be the case now)
 

Seaf0ur

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...Now if they would only prohibit employers from drug testing....


But you see, that actually would benefit us, so they wont do it.


...what you mean by trying to protect "us"... if by "us" you mean rec weed store owners, rec MIPs owners, and rec grow owners , tax agents, tax collectors, license issuing government employees.... then i agree


The second any real protections are in place against the feds, those protections will not be applicable to us.
Bayer will win.
 

Ganoderma

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I guess it goes to show Colorado doesn't have it's head as far up it's ass as a I thought. That's one thing their doing to protect us.

Politics isn't a cake walk. But it seam like a lot of chicken little's running around, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!". Then they finally pull a "needle" out from some where. Then will it go anywhere and how many of those chickens are going to poo all over it before it goes to Hicky's desk?

Seems like discrimination based on a medical disability.

Now if you have you MMJ card (or your paper work is pending approval), then I would have to agree with you. To me that would seam to make it a civil rights issue. would you imagine if some one going through cemo (sp?) and having that radiation show up in a piss test ("if") was grounds to fire some one or not hire
 

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Colorado Governor: Sessions Finds Obama-Era Marijuana Policy ‘Not Too Far’ Off


Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, after meeting with Attorney General Jeff Sessions this week in Washington, says that he doesn’t believe a federal crackdown on legal marijuana is on the way, adding that Sessions called the Obama administration’s guidance on marijuana “not too far from good policy.”

“The meeting was very productive, and overall it was very good,” Jacque Montgomery, press secretary for the Democratic governor, told HuffPost. Montgomery said that Sessions spent about an hour with Hickenlooper, and they discussed the state’s successful marijuana regulation, its collection of data on usage, what the state has learned since the first legal pot shops opened in 2014, how the state has updated the law, and how it deals with the grey and black markets that continue.

Sessions also addressed the Obama-era marijuana guidance, known as the Cole memo, with the governor.

“Sessions said he is reviewing the Cole memo and said that ‘it is not too far from good policy,’” Montgomery said. “But we do expect some revisions, so we’ll wait to hear back on that.”

The Department of Justice did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Sessions’ meeting with Hickenlooper.

The remarks related by Hickenlooper are the clearest yet from Sessions ― a vocal opponent of marijuana use ― that a federal crackdown isn’t imminent. Last month, Sessions said the Cole memo is “valid.”

Obama’s Justice Department allowed states to forge their own way on marijuana policy by issuing the Cole memo guidance in 2013. It outlines how states can avoid running afoul of federal enforcement priorities on marijuana. But this guidance is not law, and it could be reversed by the Trump administration.

And though as a candidate Trump said he was in favor of allowing medical marijuana, adding that he would respect states’ rights on the issue, his selection of an anti-marijuana hard-liner as attorney general was deeply troubling to those who favor progressive drug laws.

Hickenlooper told host Chuck Todd on MSNBC’s “Meet the Press Daily” on Wednesday that Sessions “feels strongly” that “more people smoking more marijuana or doing any kind of drugs is unhealthy for the country.” But Hickenlooper also noted that, in the meeting, Sessions did listen when he explained that there hasn’t been a “big spike in consumption” nor a “significant increase in teenage consumption” since Colorado legalized recreational marijuana three years ago.

Hickenlooper was seeking clarity from Sessions on the position of the federal government and also collaboration on whatever national policy may emerge.

At one point, Hickenlooper said, Sessions asked, “Well, you haven’t seen us cracking down have you?” Hickenlooper said he responded that he hadn’t, and he interpreted the rhetorical question as confirming that the Department of Justice has higher priorities than the legal and regulated marijuana market, such as enforcement of laws on heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine.

Hickenlooper said Sessions is “anti-drugs in all forms” and is not going to encourage anyone to start a marijuana business, but that he didn’t give him “any reason to think that he is going to come down and suddenly put everyone out of business.”

Marijuana remains illegal under the federal Controlled Substances Act, despite many states’ efforts to decriminalize much of its use over the past few years. Legal recreational marijuana has been approved in eight states and Washington, D.C., although the District of Columbia continues to ban sales. A total of 29 states have legalized marijuana for medical purposes.

Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit substance in the United States, and the trend of states bucking prohibition in favor of taxing and regulating the plant reflects a broad cultural shift toward greater acceptance of marijuana.

A February survey by Quinnipiac University found that 71 percent of U.S. voters want the federal government to respect state marijuana laws. In that survey, majorities of Republicans, Democrats, independents and every age group polled agreed the feds should not enforce prohibitionist laws on states that have legalized marijuana.

National support for marijuana legalization has risen dramatically in recent years, reaching historic highs in multiple polls. Medical marijuana in particular enjoys extraordinary support. A Quinnipiac poll this month found that 94 percent of Americans support allowing adults to use marijuana for medical purposes if their doctor prescribes it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._59026029e4b0bb2d086c4485?ncid=APPLENEWS00001
 

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@ Seaf0ur
sorry to hear. ive been think the same but have a hard time passing up the oppertunity with the outdoor season. im alil more worried then in the past because of talk of the state really upping there enforcment this year.

@ bsgospel id like to do afew diaries for the sake of documanting and sharing the info. i just need to make the time to upload and maintain it

the purple floss seeds came from buds i got from a rec shop last summer. i found about 2-3 in two diffrent ozs. i had bought this strain befor from this spot acouple of times and the buds were generic green but the buds the seeds came from were remarkably puple like a deep rich violet tone. each oz was on point as far as smell/taste/high and the buds they came outta were top nugs (4-5g nugs) i like to think there s1 from stress (heat,light etc) and not generic genetic hermies. not like that makes much of a diffrence hermies a hermie. or it could be random pollen i cant say. but im hoping the purple trait will be present/preserved in these seeds...i believe this is riot seeds purple floss.

i was think the same thing about the k2Xflo. im excitied to look through the f1's

i was gifted the k2 as a clone and told it was an old dutch cash crop ment to be grown sog style. mine was slow in veg and maintained single stalk growth until i started trainning it to branch. my flo male had similar strucher to the k2 but the flo male maintained more of a flower bokay strucher with further internodes while the k2 became a a total bush. the magority has taken on a sative dominate strucher, but ive got a few wide leaf indica phenos im really excited to see

@ Avinash.miles
ive read ur flo journal, are there any tips or traits i should look. my male retain all the general traits of the flo, struchtraly, and florally it was on point and i even made oil with the male and it was honestly fairly potent. for a male. the high had all the traits as the flowers. ive read that flo and dj shorts genetics tend to dominate whatever gene pools there crossed do. what are ur thought and observations have worked with the flo line?
 

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@ Avinash.miles
ive read ur flo journal, are there any tips or traits i should look. my male retain all the general traits of the flo, struchtraly, and florally it was on point and i even made oil with the male and it was honestly fairly potent. for a male. the high had all the traits as the flowers. ive read that flo and dj shorts genetics tend to dominate whatever gene pools there crossed do. what are ur thought and observations have worked with the flo line?

finding a good male is a big part of the battle, so it sounds like you already are off to a good start, what seed stock did you source the flo male from?
i'd say to watch out for funky nasty phenos, i've found some green "skunk cabbage" smelling phenos that lean toward kush & sour d flavors - they are def recessive compared to the sweet floral flo peeps are used to
 

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thanks ill keep an eye out.
i think its some of the newer stock. it was purchased at either kind love or the clinic about 2 years back. i cant remeber for sure. i dont know much about the variations in the diffrent stocks but i vaguely remeber reading something about the mid 2000's flo and how it was worked diffrently or something of that nature? could u possible shed some light on that?

for my k2xflo
im hoping to preserve the creative sative high and enhance the euphoric visual aspects but on more of a bushy indica structure better suited for colorados dry/short summers. as for terpine profile im curious just to see what any of it will smell/taste like so i dont quite have a goal smell or taste wise, both the k2 and the flo are what id describe as mild/low odor so i have a hard time imaging what i might find
 

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@ Avinash.miles

thanks ill keep an eye out.
i think its some of the newer stock. it was purchased at either kind love or the clinic about 2 years back. i cant remeber for sure. i dont know much about the variations in the diffrent stocks but i vaguely remeber reading something about the mid 2000's flo and how it was worked diffrently or something of that nature? could u possible shed some light on that?

for my k2xflo
im hoping to preserve the creative sative high and enhance the euphoric visual aspects but on more of a bushy indica structure better suited for colorados dry/short summers. as for terpine profile im curious just to see what any of it will smell/taste like so i dont quite have a goal smell or taste wise, both the k2 and the flo are what id describe as mild/low odor so i have a hard time imaging what i might find


so..... you got a MALE flo from a dispensary? or bought seeds from the shop and got a male from the seeds?
 

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