Nevilles Haze X Everything....

[Stardog]

The clone from the biggest, most aggressive Nevs Blueberry x Lucy is running on the hazy side. I stuck her in there just to see what would happen. I had 2 kinds of plants from the first run of seeds, the short branchy ones came out OG-ish and the beasts went hazy. This one smells all Nevils. Ho hum though right, who wants to see a haze or haze hybrid anymore? It's an OG world of sorts. You have to keep on trucking though.This was flipped at 18" or so around Sept 1st. Reminds me of a Mango x Widow with a Nevs smell.

 

[Stardog]

This empty room would be full right now if the damned wind would kick up although the sun did make an appearance yesterday. This one should turn out some good flowers, she picked up a few thrips from my veg but so far as I can tell they're long dead.
Turning my basement into a veg room was like giving a hoarder a new storage unit. Sometimes I wonder...

 

[Raho]

Nice pics brother.
Ya know, even the "Nev" side of that cross isn't pure Nev, with the early mullum in there, but the 21 was an extremely haze pheno from Nev/Kanga's selection work.

The male and female I used looked like twins all through veg, and had an interesting color to the leaves that was not your usual Haze/NL cross. It was lighter, but not pale if that makes any sense. Saturated and bright. I think it got that from the early mullum.

The female is the one I used in the cross, so we know what those flowers looked like. Almost like an SSH, with the perfect consistent pointy spears. Smallish calyxes. Not really finished at 100 days.
The lower branch tips in your pics above definitely have the shape. But the color and shape of the leaves is completely different than the 21emm. Darker, shiny, wider blades with exaggerated serrations.
I'd give all that to the Lucy and the Atomic Blue NL.

You've smoked more Nevil's than most people in the US I'd wager, so when you say it smells like Nev's I believe you. But that Nev 21 we are looking at above has now been outcrossed to 3 different lines from the original monster the boys down under selected.
2 of the 3 outcrosses (the Early mullum and the Blue NL) contain a lot of camphor terps, which can easily be associated with Nevs. Adding the complementary acetone terps from your Lucy mom to the mix could amplify the camphor and make it even more vapory.
Like Tony Montana dipped in Vicks Vape-o-Rub.

Thats's kinda what I was hoping to find in that cross Probably more likely to find it in the shorty's. How common were the tall phenos? 50/50?
Maybe F2's of the 21 blue is where we can find a male that puts that Nev in the back seat? Need a short stinky male.

PS:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Stardog again.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

I'll look at hazes and haze hybrids all day man. I'm about to make some NLD hybrids myself. Just popped a couple Oldtimers Haze and I have a couple landrace "Angola Poison going, one of which has already shown it's a female. Gonna try and make some fast vegging plants that grow into trees and finish early for growing outdoors where I live.

 

[Stardog]

Yeah I would say the plants were 50/50, half going towards the Lucy and half going more Nevs hybrid style. I still have a bunch of clones from all the females and one of the males I found. Didn't have the space to run the seed plants over the summer so I just saved the cuts. There's still one crazy one in my rockwool slab but she looks like neither of the two I have going I've shown here.
There are so many rooted clones in my veg I have a bunch to choose from now that the weather's swung in my favor. One of the best I've found was the third female of the Nevs Blue x Sour Grape. All three of those females have turned out fantastic so I'll probably be looking to use that sour grape for more hybrids in the future. It's an epic cut on its own though but if I can find something better...all the better!

 

[MAHA KALA]

i love haze more than anything, good thing is that i got some of these nevs blue thx! very curious about it, as nobody around is able to hook me up with blue haze. and i dont see much of any blue haze on the boards. maybe some johny blaze or azure haze thats all, and yes hgf blue haze that is very indica though. its surprising imo. as blueberry is great "indica" for haze as it doesnt smash special haze effect... love me some haze nevilles haze, 16 week pheno

 

[Stardog]

Nice MK! I wish I could run more hazes myself but with the cost of electricity I'm in a bit of a squeeze. Patients want "brands" so to speak and they pay my power costs which are considerable. I don't really mind running what these patients want but I don't like being locked down. I have a few people with Parkinsons and conditions that make them involuntarily shake and hazes just don't seem to do the trick for them.
Hazes are much easier to grow and yield almost double at times and it's better smoke for myself...I'm not shaking yet.
Mr Frosty here seems to fit the bill all around, she's fast @ 55 days and deadly but you have to run a bunch. I'm going to flip a big sour today and another big sour grape. I finally pulled that giant Orange Kush out of there. She didn't do as well as I'd hoped, she needs to be close enough to be able to trim her out and tie her up as needed other wise you 'll end up with a mess, some nice colas but more hash making material.
Long day ahead of me today cleaning up, can't wait...

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

Blue Orca Haze may do ya............

ganj on............

 

[MAHA KALA]

i think g13haze from mns has huge body effect. anyway hazes we like, are good for us, people with free open minds.. patients minds are occupied with some suffering too much to enjoy spirit of hazes imo. i think some very good balanced haze can help people with bipolar disorder for example, but it has to be right one, not that electric heartbeating haha, but i love all ganja. hashplants too

 

[Raho]

i love haze more than anything, good thing is that i got some of these nevs blue thx! very curious about it, as nobody around is able to hook me up with blue haze. and i dont see much of any blue haze on the boards. maybe some johny blaze or azure haze thats all, and yes hgf blue haze that is very indica though. its surprising imo. as blueberry is great "indica" for haze as it doesnt smash special haze effect... love me some haze nevilles haze, 16 week pheno View Image

Looking forward to seeing how she does for you Maha!
What's that in the pic, a Nev?

Probably the most famous "Blue Haze" is the Blue Dream cut from NorCal. Santa Cruz SSH cut x DJ's blueberry male.
Although it has fallen out of favor in the west coast market obsessed with plants named after food, don't be fooled by haters: It's a killer grower's flower with great "kind" effects, frosted with resin and dreamy terps.

Your comments on G13 x Haze got me curious. What do you think those seeds from MNS are? F2, F3, or something else? Shanti's selections to stabilize Nev's original crosses while keeping a spread of phenos and not losing vigor show the man has some real chops.
Info on your experience with the pheno spread is what I'm looking for I guess.

I ran a hybrid with the original AG13 cut x seedsman oHaze male, and the sativa phenos were the best.
The faster, chunkier phenos were kinda flat on effects and flavor. I was not ready for the extreme sativa growth of the big girls though when everything else was more wide leaf dom.

Anyway, please share some pics of that Blue Nev21 when they start doing their thing ;-)

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Probably the most famous "Blue Haze" is the Blue Dream cut from NorCal. Santa Cruz SSH cut x DJ's blueberry male.
Although it has fallen out of favor in the west coast market obsessed with plants named after food, don't be fooled by haters: It's a killer grower's flower with great "kind" effects, frosted with resin and dreamy terps.

Great to see praise on the Santa Cruz Blue Dream. I just got a cut of her a few days ago. Lots of subpar knockoffs out there to fuel the hate but from what I hear this the right one to have.

 

[Raho]

Oh yeah, she's a keeper Scrappy.

mushroombrew has some great pics of her in his thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=344171

 

[Stardog]

A few weeks back I moved this Nevs Blue x Lucy to a safer spot up on one of my trays where it's lit up from the side from a low bare bulb 400 and some T5's. The bottom end just started loading up, it's still a small plant but she has some chunks on her. I wish this one had a better chance because it looks like it should be a good one for smoking. Just a bit bored and waiting for my lights to come on...

 

[Stardog]

My best looking/smelling SFV BX3. The pic doesn't quite show the plant as I see it but either way so far so good. I hope I left myself a few more of these seeds but I can't recall... Pretty sure I flipped this on Sept 1st. I have this small back room loaded up.

 

[Raho]

A few weeks back I moved this Nevs Blue x Lucy to a safer spot up on one of my trays where it's lit up from the side from a low bare bulb 400 and some T5's. The bottom end just started loading up, it's still a small plant but she has some chunks on her. I wish this one had a better chance because it looks like it should be a good one for smoking. Just a bit bored and waiting for my lights to come on...
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That Nev Blue Lucy looks like she could be a real producer, but maybe hard to light if you had a room full.
Do you think the number of bud sites in the undercarriage reflects the sativa influence or is it not unusual for the Lucy to have that many branches and nugs?

That SFV bx looks like a bigger plant. She's REALLY stacking up !

 

[gmanwho]

ya man that nev blue lucy an that sfv bx 3is looking dankalicious..... yum yum

lots of clusters on the nev blue lucy. betting that blue right there wont be any "chick weed" . u keep cuts this time?

 

[budelight]

Hey Stardog, that Bx3 looks different from the Bx1 i grew out last year!

Flowers are now 2years old, still puffing on them every once and awhile

 

[MAHA KALA]

yeah i forgot blue dream how couldnt I? never tried it, but it doesnt get good reviews on effect, like its too light. mns i dont know what are they doing there. I heard stories about open pollinations in Spain. they did some new versions of nlhaze or skunhaze, maybe this is new version too, some say they dont have nevilles males anymore, i dont know. in the pic is cut of Neville´s haze i got from local haze lover, he prefers old timer´s over it though. its 16 weeks pheno, with light green leafs, and spectacular effect, after one hour from smoking it hits like hammer

Looking forward to seeing how she does for you Maha!
What's that in the pic, a Nev?

Probably the most famous "Blue Haze" is the Blue Dream cut from NorCal. Santa Cruz SSH cut x DJ's blueberry male.
Although it has fallen out of favor in the west coast market obsessed with plants named after food, don't be fooled by haters: It's a killer grower's flower with great "kind" effects, frosted with resin and dreamy terps.

Your comments on G13 x Haze got me curious. What do you think those seeds from MNS are? F2, F3, or something else? Shanti's selections to stabilize Nev's original crosses while keeping a spread of phenos and not losing vigor show the man has some real chops.
Info on your experience with the pheno spread is what I'm looking for I guess.

I ran a hybrid with the original AG13 cut x seedsman oHaze male, and the sativa phenos were the best.
The faster, chunkier phenos were kinda flat on effects and flavor. I was not ready for the extreme sativa growth of the big girls though when everything else was more wide leaf dom.

Anyway, please share some pics of that Blue Nev21 when they start doing their thing ;-)

 

[Stardog]

The BX3's turned out 10x better than I'd hoped. I thought perhaps that BX'ing a 3rd time might make things go haywire but just the opposite at least in this case.
My back 4x8 is still shut down until it chills down a bit outside but I have the one Nevs Blue x Lucy still going strong. Still smells hazy and she couldn't be much different than her sister above.

 

[Stardog]

Some of the lowers from one of the sours in my rockwool tray. The whole 4x4 tray is jammed with these and D-Kush. Still a ways to go though for the sours. Once I pull the D-Kush out the sours should have some space to finish out nicely.