Nettle Tea

[Miris]

hello,
I read on first page that the BRACKEN is good for P and little bit K . but it can (like cannabis) takes up heavy and toxic things from soil...

but the most imporant thing - Phosphorus in bracken I didnt found some good info.

here is something
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/organic/organic_24.php

...but nothing about P

...only that bracken ash is good...


so ... is there some weed with high P and K without much N?

 

[MJBadger]

so ... is there some weed with high P and K without much N?
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Read the post by JackTheGrower on Docleafs Burdock thread & do a search on Comfrey as a flower fert .

Well my Nettle veg season is well over , all the plants are on organic flower ferts & growing/budding well I ran the mower over 1 of my nettle areas & cut a big area of young regrowth with no flower for the compost bin , some lovely compost coming next year

Will leave you with one of my organic friends .

Stay green .

 

[jaykush]

very nice MJB i love me some nettle compost, some of the best there is!

 

[Terramoto]

Hey, thanks for the thread its awesome and finally something i can work with (considering the place where i am). Now i dont know much about nutrients, what harms plants and stuff like that and i was wondering if i could use Nopales too, i found this website here: http://www.rivenrock.com/nutrients.htm
it shows the nutrients and stuff like that but i dunno if it has anything that can harm the plants. Would you mind checking it for me?

 

[nvthis]

Nice info..

 

[jaykush]

looks pretty good terramoto, but as always when testing new plants. i suggest making some extract. and applying it to some other plant( i try new plant extracts on veggies) and then go from there. i highly doubt it will hurt your plants, but its always safe to be on the good side.

being that its not really a leaf, i would put some in a blender with water, make a nice paste. then add water to that so its not a slurry. ferment for a week and strain out the material well. dilute and apply.

 

[Terramoto]

thanks, Jay it would be nice to build a db with every plant we could get info.

 

[jaykush]

yea, it would be nice if we can get nutrient data on a ton of plants too. but for the most part its so damn hard to find for uncommon plants and weeds. for now its trial and error. good thing with plant extracts, i haven't had much error in the ways of hurting my plants. i can really only think one one or two times where i actually did something negative, and that was because i used it too strong.

 

[Mt Toaker]

Here ya go Jaykush! Its not really uncommon plants in the list but its a pretty good list with lots of info. I ran across this post the other day checkin out organic Potassium sources. Posted by sophisto in the thread Organic Potassium source


Heres a list Suby hooked me up with a while back...Spreadin the love...

Alfalfa Hay: 2.45/05/2.1
Apple Fruit: 0.05/0.02/0.1
Apple Leaves: 1.0/0.15/0.4
Apple Pomace: 0.2/0.02/0.15
Apple skins(ash) : 0/3.0/11/74
Banana Residues (ash): 1.75/0.75/0.5
Barley (grain): 0/0/0.5
Barley (straw): 0/0/1.0
Basalt Rock: 0/0/1.5
Bat Guano: 5.0-8.0/4.0-5.0/1.0
Beans, garden(seed and hull): 0.25/0.08/03
Beet Wastes: 0.4/0.4/0.7-4.1
Blood meal: 15.0/0/0
Bone Black: 1.5/0/0
Bonemeal (raw): 3.3-4.1/21.0/0.2
Bonemeal (steamed): 1.6-2.5/21.0/0.2
Brewery Wastes (wet): 1.0/0.5/0.05
Buckwheat straw: 0/0/2.0
Cantaloupe Rinds (ash): 0/9.77/12.0
Castor pomace: 4.0-6.6/1.0-2.0/1.0-2.0
Cattail reeds and water lily stems: 2.0/0.8/3.4
Cattail Seed: 0.98/0.25/0.1
Cattle Manure (fresh): 0.29/0.25/0.1
Cherry Leaves: 0.6/0/0.7
Chicken Manure (fresh): 1.6/1.0-1.5/0.6-1.0
Clover: 2/0/0/0 (also contains calcium)
Cocoa Shell Dust: 1.0/1.5/1.7 Coffee Grounds: 2.0/0.36/0.67
Corn (grain): 1.65/0.65/0.4
Corn (green forage): 0.4/0.13/0.33
Corn cobs: 0/0/2.0
Corn Silage: 0.42/0/0
Cornstalks: 0.75/0/0.8
Cottonseed hulls (ash): 0/8.7/23.9Cottonseed Meal: 7.0/2.0-3.0/1.8
Cotton Wastes (factory): 1.32/0.45/0.36
Cowpea Hay: 3.0/0/2.3
Cowpeas (green forage): 0.45/0.12/0.45
Cowpeas (seed): 3.1/1.0/1.2
Crabgrass (green): 0.66/0.19/0.71
Crabs (dried, ground): 10.0/0/0 (I personally just crush the shells with my foot)
Crabs (fresh): 5.0/3.6/0.2
Cucumber Skins (ash): 0/11.28/27.2 ( WOW!!!! Who knew???)
Dried Blood: 10.0-14.0/1.0-5.0/0
Duck Manure (fresh): 1.12/1.44/0.6
Eggs: 2.25/0.4/0.15
Eggshells: 1.19/0.38/0.14
Feathers: 15.3/0/0
Felt Wastes: 14.0/0/1.0
Field Beans (seed): 4.0/1.2/1.3
Feild Beans (shells): 1.7/0.3/1.3
Fish (dried, ground): 8.0/7.0/0
Fish Scraps (fresh): 6.5/3.75/0
Gluten Meal: 6.4/0/0
Granite Dust: 0/0/3.0-5.5
Grapefruit Skins (ash): 0/3.6/30.6 (And people throw these things away? Wow!)
Grape Leaves: 0.45/0.1/0.4
Grape Pomace: 1.0/0.07/0.3
Grass (imature): 1.0/0/1.2
Greensand: 0/1.5/7.0
Hair: 14/0/0/0
Hoof and Horn Meal: 12.5/2.0/0
Horse Manure (fresh): 0.44/0.35/0.3
Incinerator Ash: 0.24/5.15/2.33
Jellyfish (dried): 4.6/0/0
Kentucky Bluegrass (green): 0.66/0.19/0.71
Kentucky Bluegrass (hay): 1.2/0.4/2.0
Leather Dust: 11.0/0/0
Lemon Culls: 0.15/0.06/0.26
Lemon Skins (ash): 06.33/1.0
Lobster Refuse: 4.5/3.5/0
Milk: 0.5/0.3/0.18
Millet Hay: 1.2/0/3.2
Molasses Residue
(From alcohol manufacture): 0.7/0/5.32
Molasses Waste
(From Sugar refining): 0/0/3.0-4.0
Mud (fresh water): 1.37/0.26/0.22
Mud (harbour): 0.99/0.77/0.05
Mud (salt): 0.4.0/0
Mussels: 1.0/0.12/0.13
Nutshells: 2.5/0/0
Oak Leaves: 0.8/0.35/0.2
Oats (grain): 2.0/0.8/0.6
Oats (green fodder): 0.49/0/0
Oat straw: 0/0/1.5
Olive Pomace: 1.15/0.78/1.3
Orange Culls: 0.2/0.13/0.21
Orange Skins: 0/3.0/27.0 (Right up there with Grapefruit. Note: both can attract fruit flies so, bury them in the compost)
Oyster Shells: 0.36/0/0
Peach Leaves: 0.9/0.15/0.6
Pea forage: 1.5-2.5/0/1.4
Peanuts (seed/kernals): 3.6/0.7/0.45
Peanut Shells: 3.6/0.15/0.5 (I grind them up in the food processor first)
Pea Pods (ash): 0/3.0/9.0 (I cut them up with a pair of scissors while shelling them)
Pea (vines): 0.25/0/0.7
Pear Leaves: 0.7/0/0.4
Pigeon manure (fresh): 4.19/2.24/1.0
Pigweed (rough): 0.6/0.1/0
Pine Needles: 0.5/0.12/0.03
Potato Skins (ash): 0/5.18/27.5
Potaote Tubers: 0.35/0.15/2.5
Potatoe Vines (dried): 0.6/0.16/1.6
Prune Refuse: 0.18/0.07/0.31
Pumpkins (fresh): 0.16/0.07/0.26
Rabbitbrush (ash): 0/0/13.04
Rabbit Manure: 2.4/1.4/0.6
Ragweed: 0.76/0.26/0
Rapeseed meal: 0/1.0=2.0/1.0=3.0
Raspberry leaves: 1.45/0/0.6
Red clover hay: 2.1/0.6/2.1
Redrop Hay: 1.2/0.35/1.0
Rock and Mussel Deposits
From Ocean: 0.22/0.09/1.78
Roses (flowers): 0.3/0.1/0.4
Rye Straw: 0/0/1.0
Salt March Hay: 1.1/0.25/0.75
Sardine Scrap: 8.0/7.1/0
Seaweed (dried): 1.1-1.5/0.75/4.9 (Seaweed is loaded with micronutrients including: Boron, Iodine, Magnesium and so on.)
Seaweed (fresh): 0.2-0.4/0/0
Sheep and Goat Manure (fresh): 0.55/0.6/0.3
Shoddy and Felt: 8.0/0/0
Shrimp Heads (dried): 7.8/4.2/0
Shrimp Wastes: 2.9/10.0/0
Siftings From Oyster Shell Mounds: 0.36/10.38/0.09
Silk Mill Wastes: 8.0/1.14/1.0
Silkworm Cocoons:10.0/1.82/1.08
Sludge: 2.0/1.9/0.3
Sludge (activated): 5.0/2.5-4.0/0.6
Smokehouse/Firepit Ash:0/0/4.96 (I put the ashes from my smoker in the pile)
Sorghum Straw:0/0/1.0
Soybean Hay: 1.5-3.0/0/1.2-2.3
Starfish: 1.8/0.2/0.25
Sugar Wastes (raw): 2.0/8.0/0
Sweet Potatoes: 0.25/0.1/0.5
Swine Manure (fresh): 0.6/0.45/0.5
Tanbark Ash: 0/0.34/3.8
Tanbark Ash (spent): 0/1.75/2.0
Tankage: 3.0-11.0/2.0-5.0/0
Tea Grounds: 4.15/0.62/0.4
Timothy Hay: 1.2/0.55/1.4
Tobacco Leaves: 4.0/0.5/6.0
Tobacco Stems: 2.5-3.7/0.6-0.9/4.5-7.0
Tomatoe Fruit: 0.2/0.07/0.35 (A note on tomatoe fruit: These should be hot composted. I just let any rotted or insect eaten tomatoes compost in the soil beneath the plants and have "freebees" come back each consecutive year. Hot composting will kill the seeds.)
Tomatoe Leaves: 0.35/0.1/0.4
Tomatoe Stalks: 0.35/0.1/0.5
Tung Oil Pumace: 6.1/0/0
Vetch Hay: 2.8/0/2.3
Waste Silt: 9.5/0/0
Wheat Bran: 2.4/2.9/1.6
Wheat (grain): 2.0/0.85/0.5
Wheat Straw: 0.5/0.15/0.8
White Clover (Green): 0.5/0.2/0.3
Winter Rye Hay: 0/0/1.0
Wood Ash: 0/1.0-2.0/6.0-10.0 (A note on Wood ash: Wood Ash can contain chemicals that could harm plants and also carcinogens so, they should be composted in moderation)
Wool Wastes: 3.5-6.0/2.0-4.0/1.0-3.5

A buddy of mine saves all his pot ash...he sprinkles it around his containers and swears by it....Dont waste your waste.....Pot ash = potash....LOL

 

[jaykush]

thanks mt toaker, im a bit skeptic on that lists info. its a great general list but i think more research into the materials is needed for proper use of the material. i wonder where that list originated as well, ive seen it ALL over the web for some time now. plus a good majority of the materials on that list wouldn't be fitted for this method of making fertilizers. id say that they are more helpful in a compost pile. thanks for the post anyways it should help people out.

PS: lol @ pot ash = potash!! that's good stuff.

 

[Terramoto]

http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/highchem.html i dunno how accurate the site is and if plants loose nutes while fermenting but, that website can give you a top40 of the part of the plant that contains more ppm of X nutrient.

 

[jaykush]

holy crap! THANK YOU terramoto. that link is awesome!! if i could pass you a big fat bong rip of the best i would right now.

 

[EddieShoestring]

tx to Doc, Jay and everyone who has contributed to this thread.
It has prompted me to have a go with comfrey.

i've been using it for medical purposes for 10yrs-in most languages it has a traditional name associated with healing. English=knitbone.

method=cut down a binliner full of comfrey. I got green growing stuff and some that had died back and was going mushy. Left it in the boot of my car for 2weeks then stuffed it into a 15L container

covered with water, put the top on and left for 1month-stirring daily.
Smells like silage.
Strained it through a pillowcase and that's it.
Since then i have tried it on my plants at 1:40 (ish) and the leaf stems went purple on all the strains-but no burn of any kind and they are looking good. I guess that may have been too strong-

still experimenting with it

great link Terramoto, tx

cheers guys
eddieS

 

[Slow Stone]

http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/highchem.html i dunno how accurate the site is and if plants loose nutes while fermenting but, that website can give you a top40 of the part of the plant that contains more ppm of X nutrient.

Top ten plants Containing PHOSPHORUS:
#3 Chenopodium album L. -- Lambsquarter; 720 - 36,833 ppm in Leaf
#9 Equisetum arvense L. -- Field Horsetail, Horsetail; 930 - 14,762 ppm in Plant

Looks interesting, they're pretty common in the fields out here. Sadly, its too cold for gathering... or maybe not??

 

[jj.thecarnivore]

Amazing.

Im in heaven

I think the guy who had a strong reaction to the nettles should actually try to make a tea out of Burdock Root and Nettles.

I know that many of you consume nettles, and still have the tingle and sometimes stinging reaction...

..but many people have very strong histamine reactions, and many people who break out in hives or have strong reactions are relieved by the internal use of these plants. Use a 2 inches of the root of Burdock, 6-12 leaves of nettles, and a palm full of red clover and low heat simmer in 4 cups of water for 30 min to an hour and strain.

If you are new to the bitter and earthy flavors of these kinds of concoctions, cool the tea in the fridge and drink it cold...

i still like it like this
... if you like it make a large jar of it and keep in the fridge for 2 weeks no problem....

.... also keep in mind that you will have to drink this tea over two or three months 2-3 x/week in order to really see the effect. It will not help with the reaction immediately, it will help with your future skin reactions in general.


PS
Nettle soup

I have not made the soup in a while...
I have to dig up the recipie....

Bravo on the compost tea! I am going to fatten up my worms and bins on the leftovers from harvesting seeds!!! Im excited to be so inspired! I know of a patch near me! thank you!

 

[jaykush]

nettle season is coming upon us. i found a patch while hiking a week ago in a unique micro-climate that had re sprouted from the previous years growth( 10ft dry stalks! perfect for rope making!) took some canes, took some leaves and some roots. making fresh tea atm and drying the roots for later use.

 

[DARC MIND]

nettle season has been here for some time in my parts
got tons of nettle growing on the side of the dairies, been taking trips to dairy land for manure and collecting all the nettle.
my personal patches are looking lush as well, on the down side im pretty confident my one and only comfrey plant died(roots are just a mush). kind of bummed out on that one for i had planed taking root cutting for lots more.

 

[jaykush]

don't rub it in my face you... the micro climate patch i found is no joke though, its about 20ft wide and 40ft long. its just only got a few green spots near these lavarock outcrops for radiant heat at night, enough for winter brews. but come spring.....ill be rolling( not literally ) in the nettles.

 

[Mountain High]

Awesome thread! I will do a search for nettles around my area this spring!!

 

[Barahng]

So one could just throw plants into water and let it sit? All of the additional research on FPE I've done is saying that adding EM to the mix is a MUST. I guess it kind of makes sense, because I don't really know where the bacteria to ferment the plant material would could from otherwise.

So, if anyone knows, is there any significant difference in extract quality using EM?