Nettle Tea

[DARC MIND]

in my OD spot i have my gallon milk jugs sitting under a bush, ready to go when ever i need them. all i do is mix with water foliar or drench @ location. if u feel the need, a tsp of molasses can be added to a gal of diluted fermented plant juice with no ill effect. actually takes away the smell little but i see no need of guano when u dail in the plant and dilution ratio's.
ime nettle works great for veg, alone or mixed with a little comfrey
comfrey works great as a flower fert alone or mixed with a little yarrow.
jay posted info on what nettle contains (essential nutreints) some were in this thread and jay also has a nice amount of info on comfrey as well.

 

[jaykush]

Im looking at making an all in one, with carbs if possible for my outdoor plants. The EWC & Guano are part of the compost tea recipe i was going to knock up, as nettle alone doesnt contain the whole profile of nutrients needed, shall i just go with the nettle tea for the veg & something else for bloom like comfrey. My problem is i dont want to be visiting my patch too often, so im looking for an all in one tea, Carbs, all in so to say! thanks for the input Jay, noted!

i personally have never had as good results mixing up things with nettles. it likes to be on its own as with most of the plant extracts( and they are better used alone for many reasons). some EWC might not hurt but there is no need, waste of EWC imo. the nettles contain enough biology in there plant matter to get the process started. an all in one tea might work, but youll get far better results applying teas fit to the time of growth. like you said nettle will be better for veg and comfrey for flower.

Oh i see, does nettle contain the whole nutrient profile needed for veg & bloom on its own?
Thats what im trying to get at, Can i incorporate a nettle Tea & or Comphrey tea with carbs & Guano , EWC etc. Its just i can only get to my spot maybe once a week twice if im lucky & id like to get everything in one hit if i can! is the nettle tea a complete nutrient solution on its own is it? Teas are a new thing to me as you can prolly tell!
thanks for your help jay!

no mostly what you get with nettles is iron, magnesium, and nitrogen( derived from ammonia) there are a few others in there like some P and K but not as much as N( there is a long post in here by me with ALL the info on nettle). you can mix all of the things you want no one is going to stop you, i just don't recommend it personally. when you start mixing anything and everything you move into uncharted territory as far as results go. specially if teas are new to you then stick with whats known to work, once you got that down then you can start mixing, experimenting, on your own free will if you feel its needed. really you only need to apply the nettle tea once a week if that's all your going to your spot. no need to feed more. just give them a nice deep watering/feeding. you could also supplement by mulching with fresh nettles. so then you have slow release mulch and your liquid nettle tea for boosts in growth.

now as far as molasses goes, when i use carbs it is only in small batches for micro biology teas. in this process you only ferment for 24 hours or it goes anaerobic, and its mainly used as a foliar spray. adding molasses to the main plant teas doesn't make it better.

 

[Scrogerman]

Thats what i needed to hear bro's thanks guys, great advice & you have given me a better understanding with justy a couple of posts & a little reading by myself. thanks alot guys!
So with the Nettle & Comfrey teas, your mostly feeding the plant as its a nute tea & with a compost tea your mostly invigorating & feeding the microbiology. Would a flip/flop Nettle then Compost(with Carbs) be a good idea, see where im going. Its just ive read so many threads on here explaining to feed the soil & not the plant, so this is a newer concept to me, have i got this right guys!?
BTW ive seen pics of mollasses/compost teas going anerobic, it aint pretty, overflowing froth everwhere! 24 hours, thanks man!

 

[DARC MIND]

if u really want to feed the soil, use the dry amendments. slow dry some nettle, comfrey and use as top dress like jay explained. both dry or fresh nettle/comfrey foliage is great for composting/worming, witch will make a even greater base soil amendment, bioloigal rich compost tea or top mulch.
HTH

 

[MJBadger]

an all in one tea might work, but youll get far better results applying teas fit to the time of growth. like you said nettle will be better for veg and comfrey for flower

jay made the best point here , no need to over complicate . These growers use the products & get the end result ie; the plants then the harvest . Nature provides all the organic nutrients needed to get there . If you have an idea for a recipe try it on just a couple of plants then compare the results . There is so much information on organics in the threads it`s worth having an open mind . Good luck & happy harvests will follow .


Stay green .

 

[ashash1212]

Loving this page, but i wonder if veg and bloom fertilisers can be made for free eg nettle and comfrey. why do people continue to buy and essentiall waste their money on fertilisers?

 

[jaykush]

no knowledge to do so, or the open mind as MJBadger said.

nettle tea actually used to be sold in france. they call it purin d ortie.

 

[Scrogerman]

Thanks Guys Great Stuff. Ill be watching for more Clever Tips & Advice for sure.
Peace & Respect...........Scroger!

 

[Spok]

like darc mind said, there is an even faster way if you need something asap, just make some on the stove like you would some tea. simmer in hot water, then cool, dilute and apply. but do not BOIL.

whats wrong with boiling nettles?

 

[firefox]

very interesting read this nice one guys

 

[jaykush]

whats wrong with boiling nettles?

just in side by side tests i have found the non boiled teas work better. but the boiled teas do work. though that extra 5 minutes of simmer is well worth it. and then again, the wait for the liquid soaked extract is well worth the wait too. but if you need some Nitrogen ASAP, the simmer method works good. just let it cool before application, i was all hashed out once and almost poured hot ass tea on my plants once lol.

 

[Agent 47]

... just let it cool before application, i was all hashed out once and almost poured hot ass tea on my plants once lol.

HAHA, sound like something I would do. Or almost do.

 

[Spok]

just in side by side tests i have found the non boiled teas work better. but the boiled teas do work. though that extra 5 minutes of simmer is well worth it. and then again, the wait for the liquid soaked extract is well worth the wait too. but if you need some Nitrogen ASAP, the simmer method works good. just let it cool before application, i was all hashed out once and almost poured hot ass tea on my plants once lol.

i see. and those would have been some PISSED off plants had you actually done it

btw who long did you simmer for? i made a tea last night and simmered for a good 30-45 minutes..and im guessing the longer you simmer the strong the tea is?

 

[bonsai]

Has anyone tried making a nutrient tea using Wandering Jew? Parts of my garden are utterly infested with it and since I have to rip it all up I'd like to do something useful with it.
I even avoid composting it just because it's SO good at striking from seemingly dead cuttings etc.

 

[jaykush]

bonsai id look around on the net and see if you can find some info on it first. some plants have allelopathic effects on other plants. and you might find out what nutrients are in the plants as well. best to do research before trying new plants as extracts, OR just have a test on some veggie plants for a few weeks to confirm its not going to hurt anything before you give it a try on cannabis. its what i do when i cant find info and want to try new plants.

spok i only simmer for like 5 minutes 10 at the most. when i make it that way its only because i need it asap( which is rare). otherwise if i have a few days i just top dress some nettle powder, or make some normal plant extract by soaking for a few days.

 

[bonsai]

Thanks jaykuch, I've had a look around (Tradescantia fluminensis is the specific species I'm dealing with) and can't find anything of use.

I have a LOT of this cr@p invading my 1/2 acre property, very easy to grab a heap and test it on some ruby chard or similar.

 

[archer66]

Hola !!

Hola !!

Hello guys, i've been following the treat from some time now, its just AMAZINGLY full of info (subscribed even) .
I have been translating this page http://oregonbd.org/Class/accum.htm names to my language and recently found that this stuff Lamb's Quarters Chenopodsum Album grows everywhere in the city. Im planning on getting me some supply of it and dry it since i cant store liquid extract (bottle in container tehnique).
I have 2 questions for you guys. First i would like you to see the pic i have taken and tell me if thats realy the Lamb's Quarters, and second - can i go trough all the grow with just the simmer in hot water method(small PC grow)?

P.S. Today i even found that this weed Purslane "Portulaca Oleracea" can be used to, thanks to the great treat you guys keep up. I remember when i was young , me and my father we colected Purslane for our pigs (1-2-3max) and they just loved it .

 

[jaykush]

first off yest that is lambs quarters. second if you can id try and do small batches in one gallon jugs of the extract, but if its the only thing you can do, the simmer method works. but its not the best imo. it just works. a small one gallon jug off to the side is no ones business usually. hell you can even do them in smaller 1 liter soda bottles if you have to.

purslane is a great plant, VERY nutritious. i think it is said to have the highest omega 3's in any land plant. i always chop up the fresh growth tips and add them to my morning eggs. none of it ever makes it to the plant extract form lol.

 

[HAPPYTREE]

Questions for the gurus. So I have this comfrey plant in the back yard, about 8 days ago i took a cup of freshh leaves slammed them into a empty 1 gallon clean milk jug, covered with water and let ferment.

I also have 4 fine ladies growing in lcs soiless mix according to blazes OFB thread.Im using the guano/ewc tea he has posted.

What i would like to know is it ok to just supplement/alternate feedings as these ladies transition into flower. From what you all have posted it sounds ok i just thought I would ask the gurus for a second opinion and peace of mind. It seems to simple thats whats making it so hard LOL. love the organic idea transitioning here has been interesting.

what dilution ratio should i be looking at here ...and yah the stuff stinks.

thanks for all who have contibuteds this great info.

HT

P.S. I went camping this weekend by a stream and nettles and dandelions were everywhere.

 

[jaykush]

if you have enough comfrey you can skip the guano all together if you want. or you can use both. alternating them would be a wise choice. as for dilution 1:20 for sensitive plants and 1:10 for the heavy feeders, 1:50 for foliar sprays.

ps- when camping nettles make great hiking snacks, full of minerals and nutrients to keep you going. or collect a ton for use at home, same goes for dandelions as long a the area isnt polluted.