Nepal Jam

[dubi]

Hi Mountainkush,

Sorry for not chime in earlier, but no worries ... looks like you harvested them in the right moment

Latest Nepal Jam generations have been bred towards such very early flowering, resinous and purple nepalese phenos, it's not rare to harvest latest Nepal Jam nepalese early flowering phenos in just 7 weeks. The decrease of the the yield in the line nowadays is the result (and sacrifice) of all the inbreeding process i did to stabilize the other desirable traits in the line. Good yielding plants still can be found in Nepal Jam (in fact i used very high yielding purple nepalese males to produce latest standard/regular versions) in a proportion of 1 of every 5 plants. As i see it, the line is now perfect to make very predictable outcrosses due to being very stabilized.

Do you like the smoke of your Nepal Jam flowers ?

I was under the impression these would reflower and put some wieght on in weeks 6-7. Should these be on plain water now(growing in coco) or should I give them some time and see what happens.

 

[dubi]

Hi LowFalutin,

I had the chance to smoke a few Double Jams and their effects were very electric, thought provoking, introspective ... a bit like Zamal or Haze but not so trippy. I didn't find much warmness or blessed natural happiness in Double Jam, for me it was more like being in a very agitated state rather than the warm, pleasant, well focused and well centered effects of many Nepal Jams. Mabe it was just me, different persons with different metabolisms, body chemistries and psychological states could have very different experiences with the same genetics. Anyway, glad you found your “happiest weed in the world” in your Double Jams

And very happy to hear that the old Nepal Jam stock has germinated almost perfectly after all these years. Yes, i remember very well that F4 Nepal Jam generation released around 2010-2012 . That batch of Nepal Jam seeds were especially big, perfectly produced outdoors, and had a very special vitality, huge germination vigor and the germination rates lasted almost perfectly for years.

I explored in depth that F4 generation and it has the potential to produce great plants with jamaican, nepalese and inbetween expressions. But the latest Nepal Jam generations i have bred towards the best purple early flowering resinous nepalese expressions produce in a much more consistent and stabilized way the effects you are looking for from Nepal Jam: "warm, clear/clean, happy, floaty-headed expansiveness". No matter what generation the Nepal Jam came from, if you really find a nice one of your taste then she will make wonders when outcrossed with longer flowering sativas as i have explored lately in hybrids like Honduras Breeze and Zamal Bliss. My main recommendation is that you find one Nepal jam with the effects you are looking for, but pay attention also to the terpenes, the jamaican phenos are weaker in terpenes compared with the best nepalese phenos, and i think most of the blessed effects from best Nepal Jams come from invididuals with remarkable terpene content.

Good luck with your projects! Always a pleasure to learn about your latest breeding adventures

i call my keeper cut of double jam (blue mtn jam x lambsbread) “the happiest weed in the world”.
i believe this aggressive anti-depressant quality comes from the blue mtn (the strain used in NepJam)
side of the cross, and which may have been further enhanced due to the crossing with the 'bread.

but, there’s very little energy (or relaxation) to go along with that supreme happiness. i’ve got pure sativas to cross to her to address the energetic side (e.g., a cbg durban selection), but i also want “that happy” attached to something laid back and easy going- so i’m cracking some old NepJam seeds (from around 2012) and going to seek the most compact and fast-finishing nepalese-leaners to do a “backcross plus” with the double jam.

really enjoyed the warm, clear/clean, happy, floaty-headed expansiveness
(AKA fun) i got from my NJ when i grew her out in 2012...
now just looking to inject even more anti-depressive happy into that effect.

PS here's how one of my (tom hill) X18 x NepJam started out last fall before the spider mite take-over...

started 17 NepJam seeds one week ago.
16 are up and running; not too bad for 2011 seeds*.
narrowest- and broadest-leaved so far...

going to be looking for the most nep-leaning for crossing with my doubleJam keeper...
DJ keeper in re-veg
dec. '18

...and most jam-leaning for crossing with (cbg) durban and fast/compact purp OT haze selections.
hope to get something approaching F1-like hybrid vigor from the NJ x durb and NJ x POTH crosses.
(also plan to cross the durban and POTH)

will be putting them into flower soon to ID and lose the males, as well as plants that aren't at the extreme ends of the nep-jam continuum.
then put the remaining (~2-4) back into veg (without fully flowering them out) for doing final selecting/crossing work later.
thanks to the quickness of nepjam, this process shouldn't take too long.

all crossing work will be done in the feminized way.
as don't have the time/space for properly testing males.

"...may be an F4, not exactly, there is a backcross in the middle as well, lets say 4-5 steps and/or selections to present stage. Jamaica is taller plant so you must select against monster size dominance and other traits to fix them well and slowly model its whole structure. Nepalese also showed different phenos at first generations and I chose only smaller plants there. Takes little time to stabilize certain traits in this type of hybrids.
best
kaiki"

saludos,
lowf

 

[LowFalutin]

warm greetings dubi-
thank you for your kind words and NJ pheno selection guidance!
very much appreciate you taking the time to do so.

re: double jam.
yes, i think i remember you posting your DJ smoke test results in the double jam thread awhile back.
i guess i just got lucky finding a very Blue Mountain Jam-leaning pheno...

(it was the broadest-leaved DJ)

...with just enough genetic invigoration to enhance her natural irie, without
pushing her anywhere near the darkside, effects-wise. still kinda flat, energy-wise tho'.
besides nepJam & DJ i'm also familiar with BMJ's irie thru reeferman's
laughing buddha (BMJ x meaoThai). wonderfully clean happy energy effects in that one.
(btw, i'd love to see what putting bangi haze's electricity into BMJ would do = joyride.)

here's my smoke report on this DJ pheno. from: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8443200&postcount=108
"with a little more cure the nug at the top gave a beautiful euphoric ceiling-less high.
the happy social effect reminded me more of the green haze side rather than purple haze's (stereotypically) introspective effect leanings.
not much energy at all, just a very nice happy feeling (irie?). and the effect wasn't long-lived,
but another vape hit brought you back up.
taste was nutty-wood to start, then kinda berrywood purple haze-ish, then ending in sweet berry."

in that same post i also noted she was "not as electric as the lighter green phenos."

I know the odds of getting this DJ pheno's exact same lovely effects transferred over in the/any cross are pretty slim,
but part of the fun of this amateur pollen-chucking is to play/experiment/see what happens/repeat.
and what little BMJ genetics there will be in the most nep-leaning NJs i'm looking for will hopefully help tip things in our favor.
looking forward to seeing what S1s of this DJ will reveal re: how, and the way,
the genetic distribution (curve) skews in the off-spring <mad scientist voice>.

indeed, the most current NepJam release would be perfect for looking for the most nep-leaning phenos.
i wish that's what i was using, but hopefully i've got a large enough sample size to work with to find that
special nepal-leaner... a purple nepal-leaning nepjam crossed to this blue/purp DJ would be nice.

on the other hand tho', this older NJ release i've got is probably better for finding jam-leaners, for crossing to the durban, etc.
i call this durban cut "ellie", because she has that Leeks, Lemons, and Licorce terps/aromas profile.
going thru the bangi haze thread i was surprised how similar the aroma reports are to this durban's,
it's just that ellie has no stink/armpit/skunky/etc., tho' she is louder/more pungent smelling than the average long-flowering sativa.
when i mist her she smells like cannabis cologne, with a hint of metalshop. lovely.
-and i hope to make some F1-ish hybrid sativa magic with her when she gets crossed to the jammy NepJams.

thanks again for all the info and support,
as well as the sweet genetics to dabble in.
saludos,
lowf

Hi LowFalutin,

I had the chance to smoke a few Double Jams and their effects were very electric, thought provoking, introspective ... a bit like Zamal or Haze but not so trippy. I didn't find much warmness or blessed natural happiness in Double Jam, for me it was more like being in a very agitated state rather than the warm, pleasant, well focused and well centered effects of many Nepal Jams. Mabe it was just me, different persons with different metabolisms, body chemistries and psychological states could have very different experiences with the same genetics. Anyway, glad you found your “happiest weed in the world” in your Double Jams

And very happy to hear that the old Nepal Jam stock has germinated almost perfectly after all these years. Yes, i remember very well that F4 Nepal Jam generation released around 2010-2012 . That batch of Nepal Jam seeds were especially big, perfectly produced outdoors, and had a very special vitality, huge germination vigor and the germination rates lasted almost perfectly for years.

I explored in depth that F4 generation and it has the potential to produce great plants with jamaican, nepalese and inbetween expressions. But the latest Nepal Jam generations i have bred towards the best purple early flowering resinous nepalese expressions produce in a much more consistent and stabilized way the effects you are looking for from Nepal Jam: "warm, clear/clean, happy, floaty-headed expansiveness". No matter what generation the Nepal Jam came from, if you really find a nice one of your taste then she will make wonders when outcrossed with longer flowering sativas as i have explored lately in hybrids like Honduras Breeze and Zamal Bliss. My main recommendation is that you find one Nepal jam with the effects you are looking for, but pay attention also to the terpenes, the jamaican phenos are weaker in terpenes compared with the best nepalese phenos, and i think most of the blessed effects from best Nepal Jams come from invididuals with remarkable terpene content.

Good luck with your projects! Always a pleasure to learn about your latest breeding adventures

 

[Mountainkush]

Hi Mountainkush,

Sorry for not chime in earlier, but no worries ... looks like you harvested them in the right moment

Latest Nepal Jam generations have been bred towards such very early flowering, resinous and purple nepalese phenos, it's not rare to harvest latest Nepal Jam nepalese early flowering phenos in just 7 weeks. The decrease of the the yield in the line nowadays is the result (and sacrifice) of all the inbreeding process i did to stabilize the other desirable traits in the line. Good yielding plants still can be found in Nepal Jam (in fact i used very high yielding purple nepalese males to produce latest standard/regular versions) in a proportion of 1 of every 5 plants. As i see it, the line is now perfect to make very predictable outcrosses due to being very stabilized.

Do you like the smoke of your Nepal Jam flowers ?

Hey Dubi,
They both turned out great. Small yeild as you said but great smoke and beautiful plants. Currently curing and haven’t smoked much both seem to have a very similar high. Very clear, pleasant warm feeling, makes me really happy and talkative. The purple one is stronger and can’t really describe the smell but the green one #2 smells like sugar cookies or a similar baked good.
I look forward to trying some of the hybrids you’ve made with it.

 

[Kijell]

Currently testing the Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam Hybrid!

So far very good, all branches spread nicely!
Excited how she will turn out!

 

[Kalbhairav]

Hey dubi,

Do you have any pictures of the Bubba Kush x purple Nepjam?

Did you already post them? I think you did but I can’t find them..

 

[dubi]

Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam

Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam

Nice Kijell

How is she doing nowadays ? Already progressing in flowering ?
Please, let us know!

Here are some pics of our main testing last season with Black Domina x Nepal Jam, reaching mid flowering in a light dep.

Currently testing the Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam Hybrid!

So far very good, all branches spread nicely!
Excited how she will turn out!

 

[dubi]

Bubba Kush x Nepal Jam

Bubba Kush x Nepal Jam

Hi Kalbhairav,

Thanks for your interest on this cross.

Our main testing of Bubba Kush x Nepal Jam didn't work very well last outdoor season. The strain didn't like the extreme hot and dryness of the climate where she was tested. Guess she prefers more stable environment ..... some of our friends here like ULMW, Neiko and The English Cut tested the hybrid with good results, both indoors and outdoors.

I have been sampling the well cured harvest of the cross for the latest weeks and it has a surprising up effect for a Bubba cross. I have recently received the lab results performed over the strain, reaching a solid 23 % THC content.

I would like to do more testings of the strain in a more controlled environment, and if the results are good then i will probably consider to release next year some packs as a limited edition.

Hey dubi,

Do you have any pictures of the Bubba Kush x purple Nepjam?

Did you already post them? I think you did but I can’t find them..

 

[Kijell]

Nice Kijell

How is she doing nowadays ? Already progressing in flowering ?
Please, let us know!

Here are some pics of our main testing last season with Black Domina x Nepal Jam, reaching mid flowering in a light dep.

Hey!
Yes she is one of my 2 better plants right now, looks and smells real good! Excellent structure! Did not feed her that much but giving her some nutes right now.
Really hoping to get good sleep from her!

Wow your plants look gorgeous.
Will you have the seeds a few more months in stock? I really need another pack of these!

 

[musigny23]

This is one of my two Nepal Jams I'm doing this year. My first time with it. Maybe you can see this one has bright purple stems and a lighter shade of green to the leaves. The other one has the same structure but is fairly normal green color all over. No purple stems. So two pretty distinct phenos. Very curious to see how they turn out.

 

[dubi]

Glad to hear your Black Domina x Nepal Jams are among the best from your current indoor garden

Not sure when we will be able to produce more seeds of this cross, i haven't worked again with the Black Domina98 mother since then,
but hopefully we will produce more seeds of this cross in future feminized Nepal Jam reproductions.

Please, keep us udapted when they are close to finish if you have the chance

Hey!
Yes she is one of my 2 better plants right now, looks and smells real good! Excellent structure! Did not feed her that much but giving her some nutes right now.
Really hoping to get good sleep from her!

Wow your plants look gorgeous.
Will you have the seeds a few more months in stock? I really need another pack of these!

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[dubi]

Hi musigny23,

Thanks for sharing pics of one of your Nepal Jams. The NJ phenos with purple stems are usually more nepalese dominant, while the green phenos have stronger jamaican influence.
Best wishes for summer time!

 

[Kijell]

Glad to hear your Black Domina x Nepal Jams are among the best from your current indoor garden

Not sure when we will be able to produce more seeds of this cross, i haven't worked again with the Black Domina98 mother since then,
but hopefully we will produce more seeds of this cross in future feminized Nepal Jam reproductions.

Please, keep us udapted when they are close to finish if you have the chance

Hello Dubi!
I took the plant down at Day 63 with 1/3 white pistils, so it could have gone a little longer but I heard that Black Domina is very strong so I wanted to harvest on the early side.

Here is a picture of a bud after 5 weeks curing.

After few weeks of curing the result was a fantastic smoke.
When you open the jar it smells like you opened a bottle of a natural orange soda. So kind of a sweet earthy orange smell if it makes sense Anyway I think it smelled very good.
More of the earthy taste comes through when smoking with a hint of the fruity orange taste.

You feel quite the body high with some tiredness attached to it but with a clear mind.
Actually I think it is very clean and focused for a indica. The strength of this strain almost goes all to your body while your'e mind feels very good and happy.
It is quite euphoric and improves your mood. If you don't smoke too much it can be a good daytime strain for reading and studying.
If you smoke more you will have a great time just laying around and thinking, with eventually getting some nice sleep.
It is strong but I never felt that it was too heavy or making me too tired, super balance.

So I think this strain is very good and the best indica hybrid I tried from my grows last year, there are maybe some Strains with better smell/taste/yield, but because of the good effect I rate it very high.

Still need to try your Bubba Hash, will get these next year to see how it compares to this.

 

[Foggy420]

I’ve got 2 nepjams going in my foggy rooftop spot. This first one was planted 6/10 and has been flowering Just shy of 2 weeks. The stems are all a deep purple and have been from the start. It’s lush and bushy. I’m hoping she can fight the mold when fog rolls in.

 

[Rory Borealis]

I’ve got 2 nepjams going in my foggy rooftop spot. I’m hoping she can fight the mold when fog rolls in.

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They will survive, but you must be proactive. Dilute 1 tablespoon of dairy milk (whole milk, 2%, skim, it doesn't matter.) in 1 gallon of water. Spray the plants TWICE each week until 2 weeks before flowering finishes. The beneficial bacteria in the milk will spread all over the plant, creating a protective barrier against botyritis and other types of mold.

 

[Foggy420]

Thanks for the tip

I’ve heard variations of this before but never done it. This is just the kind of simple proactive action that I’m committed to this season. Ive had varying degrees of mold fail over the past few years of growing in the fog, but after last years total fail (northern California style clones) I’ve decided to really aim for battle with the mold. This drew me to icmag which lead to Nepjam and of course Ace seeds.

I’m also running
Congo
Bangi x Ethiopian
Purple satellite
Erdpurt in a cold frame
Auto Malawi NL already finished with very little mold

I’ve also got some mandala seeds
They bill their purple paro valley as a mold insurance policy but unfortunately they were all crushed in the mail...


My other mold abatement strategies so far have been
-neem spray before they went to flower.

-healthy plants and roots - quality soil fertilized with biobizz algamic and root juice And fox farm big bloom

-ph adjusted h2o

-Also sterilized scissors for pruning lower and inner branches

-removal of dead leaves from the grow area

-And of course my best mold fail
Idea: plant seeds and give them to people who live in more hospitable climes

Now it’s time to try the the old milk spray... sounds a little like a grandma telling me to drink baking soda but this is my year to try goofy stuff like this.

Fingers crossed
Things looks ok so far

 

[Rory Borealis]

Thanks for the tip

I’ve heard variations of this before but never done it. This is just the kind of simple proactive action that I’m committed to this season.

I’m also running
Congo
Bangi x Ethiopian
Purple satellite
Erdpurt in a cold frame
Auto Malawi NL already finished with very little mold

I’ve also got some mandala seeds
They bill their purple paro valley as a mold insurance policy but unfortunately they were all crushed in the mail...





Now it’s time to try the the old milk spray... sounds a little like a grandma telling me to drink baking soda but this is my year to try goofy stuff like this.

Fingers crossed
Things looks ok so far

That is a good list of ACE strains. MANDALA has good genetics as well. I've grown SATORI, BEYOND THE BRAIN and CHILL OM without any mold problems - I live in the southern USA(very wet, humid summers and autumn). The lactobacilli treatment works. My brew is ready when it smells like Greek Feta cheese. More info here: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=96325

 

[nepalnt21]

Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam Hybrid!

this is awesome!

thanks for the awesome smoke report.

good to have clear-minded but relaxing indicas on hand, just-in-case imo

 

[dubi]

Mouthwatering smoke report on the Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam, Kijell

Glad you rate her so highly and that she is offering such interesting terpenes and effects after a proper cure. The effects sound appealing as well ... with such nice blend of feel good, happy, clear headed mental effects typical of Nepal Jam, blended with a more strong and relaxing indica end from the Domina.

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us

Hello Dubi!
I took the plant down at Day 63 with 1/3 white pistils, so it could have gone a little longer but I heard that Black Domina is very strong so I wanted to harvest on the early side.

Here is a picture of a bud after 5 weeks curing.
View Image

After few weeks of curing the result was a fantastic smoke.
When you open the jar it smells like you opened a bottle of a natural orange soda. So kind of a sweet earthy orange smell if it makes sense Anyway I think it smelled very good.
More of the earthy taste comes through when smoking with a hint of the fruity orange taste.

You feel quite the body high with some tiredness attached to it but with a clear mind.
Actually I think it is very clean and focused for a indica. The strength of this strain almost goes all to your body while your'e mind feels very good and happy.
It is quite euphoric and improves your mood. If you don't smoke too much it can be a good daytime strain for reading and studying.
If you smoke more you will have a great time just laying around and thinking, with eventually getting some nice sleep.
It is strong but I never felt that it was too heavy or making me too tired, super balance.

So I think this strain is very good and the best indica hybrid I tried from my grows last year, there are maybe some Strains with better smell/taste/yield, but because of the good effect I rate it very high.

Still need to try your Bubba Hash, will get these next year to see how it compares to this.

 

[dubi]

Mouthwatering smoke report on the Black Domina 98 x Nepal Jam, Kijell

Glad you rate her so highly and that she is offering such interesting terpenes and effects after a proper cure. The effects sound appealing as well ... with such nice blend of feel good, happy, clear headed mental effects typical of Nepal Jam, blended with a more strong and relaxing indica end from the Domina.

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us

I highly encourage you to try Bubba Hash, you won't be disappointed

Hello Dubi!
I took the plant down at Day 63 with 1/3 white pistils, so it could have gone a little longer but I heard that Black Domina is very strong so I wanted to harvest on the early side.

Here is a picture of a bud after 5 weeks curing.
View Image

After few weeks of curing the result was a fantastic smoke.
When you open the jar it smells like you opened a bottle of a natural orange soda. So kind of a sweet earthy orange smell if it makes sense Anyway I think it smelled very good.
More of the earthy taste comes through when smoking with a hint of the fruity orange taste.

You feel quite the body high with some tiredness attached to it but with a clear mind.
Actually I think it is very clean and focused for a indica. The strength of this strain almost goes all to your body while your'e mind feels very good and happy.
It is quite euphoric and improves your mood. If you don't smoke too much it can be a good daytime strain for reading and studying.
If you smoke more you will have a great time just laying around and thinking, with eventually getting some nice sleep.
It is strong but I never felt that it was too heavy or making me too tired, super balance.

So I think this strain is very good and the best indica hybrid I tried from my grows last year, there are maybe some Strains with better smell/taste/yield, but because of the good effect I rate it very high.

Still need to try your Bubba Hash, will get these next year to see how it compares to this.