Nepal Jam

[dubi]

Hi Foggy420,

Your Nepal Jams, with such lanky, very purple stems and wide leaves are a good example of the traits and direction of the selections towards i've been addressing the strain in latest generations. The fast flowering, purple buds, and more refined creamy terpenes of blissful effects are also distinctive traits of the strain in latest generations.

You are right, northern California strains have been breed and grown in very dry climates in July, August and September, if you bring these genetics to a more foggy and wet climate then their flowers will easily rot. Nepal Jam deals faily well with mold, we at ACE grow her in a humid coastal climate and she hardly gets any mold unless she is seriously infected with worm buds during flowering.

Purple Satellite, Bangi Haze x Ethiopian and Congo are also great choices for humid climates in late summer/early fall. ErdPurt could be more problematic with botrytis in the second half of flowering under humid conditions, so it's better to top her before flowering so she distributes better the flower production in smaller, more separated and better aerated flowers.

In case of heavy rains and very humid conditions, it also a good recommendation to open the structure of the branches of your Nepal Jams (with a cage for example), so her lush structure is not so attractive for molds. Hope it helps and good luck!

I’ve got 2 nepjams going in my foggy rooftop spot. This first one was planted 6/10 and has been flowering Just shy of 2 weeks. The stems are all a deep purple and have been from the start. It’s lush and bushy. I’m hoping she can fight the mold when fog rolls in.

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Ive had varying degrees of mold fail over the past few years of growing in the fog, but after last years total fail (northern California style clones) I’ve decided to really aim for battle with the mold. This drew me to icmag which lead to Nepjam and of course Ace seeds.

I’m also running
Congo
Bangi x Ethiopian
Purple satellite
Erdpurt in a cold frame
Auto Malawi NL already finished with very little mold

Fingers crossed
Things looks ok so far

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[musigny23]

Thanks for the tip

I’ve heard variations of this before but never done it. This is just the kind of simple proactive action that I’m committed to this season. Ive had varying degrees of mold fail over the past few years of growing in the fog, but after last years total fail (northern California style clones) I’ve decided to really aim for battle with the mold. This drew me to icmag which lead to Nepjam and of course Ace seeds.

I’m also running
Congo
Bangi x Ethiopian
Purple satellite
Erdpurt in a cold frame
Auto Malawi NL already finished with very little mold



My other mold abatement strategies so far have been
-neem spray before they went to flower.

-healthy plants and roots - quality soil fertilized with biobizz algamic and root juice And fox farm big bloom

-ph adjusted h2o

-Also sterilized scissors for pruning lower and inner branches

-removal of dead leaves from the grow area

-And of course my best mold fail
Idea: plant seeds and give them to people who live in more hospitable climes

Now it’s time to try the the old milk spray... sounds a little like a grandma telling me to drink baking soda but this is my year to try goofy stuff like this.

Fingers crossed
Things looks ok so far

Foggy rooftop sounds like it could be San Francisco. I'm in NorCal by the coast too, south of SF. I also discovered after several years of trying that most popular CA strains mold and/or mildew easily, as did friends of mine. I don't think it's from acclimation to dry summers but from careless selection and inbreeding. Also the widespread use of clones.

I think back in the late 90s and 00s kush types were the primary choice for breeding in CA, due to their sugary white resin appearance and shorter flowering times. Also I think certain traits were ignored or overlooked as "breeders" were creating these popular strains. I think phenos with traits they liked were selected that also carried high susceptibility to mold and mildew which they weren't paying attention to. They bred that susceptibility into these 'cuts" and then spread them throughout CA. People working in drier areas didn't experience the problem as acutely as those in cooler, wetter zones.

I decided several years ago to seek genetics from far outside CA to get away from these inbred disease prone "strains". I also wanted to get back to the older sativa types I remembered from the 70s. That's when I discovered Ace Seeds (and a few others in Spain/Europe). I now have far less mold problem than before and zero mildew. I haven't seen any powdery mildew at all since switching to all seed/no clone genetics from Europe.

However I still take proactive steps to help keep mold away. I brew compost tea with a powerful aerator regularly to spray the plants. To that I add antimold/antifungal bacteria such as Actinovate and Seranade. I tank mix those along with Monterey BT and insecticide which are nonchemical bacteria agents.

The resulting spray is a rich natural soup of various beneficial organisms and bacterias. It works great and disappears without a trace. Completely organic.

Ace strains I've grown here without serious mold issues are Congo, PCK, Malawi, Malawi x PCK, PCK x ErdPurt, Golden Tiger, Bangi Haze. Panama x Malawi, Malawi x Panama.
On occasion there have been a few minor spots but nothing significant.

A major factor is the flowering time. Earlier finishers always do much better. The longer time to finish the greater the pressure. There's really no mold pressure here till late September. Then it begins increasing. The next factor is the arrival of rain events. Any actual rain in October is likely to cause problems. So how the flowering season unfolds is a big factor too.

Some of the later finishers here like Zamaldelica or Purple Haze x Malawi can have some issues near the end which for them has been mid to late October. I'd say it can reduce yield by 10 to 15%. In three seasons I've yet to really achieve the full potential of those two. Close, but not what I'd call true success. I certainly got good results but I know more potential exists under better conditions.

Hope that helps.

 

[musigny23]

2019 grow

2019 grow

Here's a shot of one of two Nepaljams I have going. This is showing more purple in the stems and leaves, not much in the flowers. A few weeks ago as flowering began most of the big sun leaves yellowed and dropped off. This is my first try of this strain so it was in a smartpot rather than in the ground so the size is modest.

 

[Kalbhairav]

She looks pretty damn fine to me musigny

 

[squatty]

Thank you for all the mold prevention tips Dubi and everyone. We're already getting rain here at 45 North and my Nepal Jam still has another month or so left. I purchased my seeds in early 2016 and just got a chance to try them this year. To avoid mold if possible I've topped this one once and pruned the middle and bottom of the plant for better airflow.

 

[TexasTea]

NepJam x Kali China. This plant has gone almost totally purple/black with the overnight temps in the high 50's f. The buds seem very modest in size and she's not putting on any more weight it looks like, which is just fine. My NJ x KC was definitely a bit different looking, greener in appearance, but the overall shape is very similar. She must be getting all that purple from the purple NJ parent.


Anyhow, I'm not sure how many weeks this one has gone but it's quite fast, maybe 6 weeks in or so. I just love the rich colors and she smells delightful too of course.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Hey Tex,

I’ve been eyeing this one for a little while. The pictures on the Ace website do look promising when it comes to weight. I believe those pictures are from the last release though. I have a very small grow so weight is a consideration (although minor).

How’s the structure on her? Do you have any full plant pics?

 

[TexasTea]

Thanks man. I grew this one last spring and it was very similar in aromas and effects to Zamaldelica x KC. It was a small plant, very very fast finishing, 7 weeks probably, and I didn't get a lot off it for yield. But I was intrigued enough to try another one. Like I said, this one looks a lot different and more colorful, purple vs green. Trichs are currently clouding up.



I will try to get some snaps of the whole thing.

 

[TexasTea]

Cool variegated leaves...this is a small plant in a 2 gallon pot.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Thanks

She looks pretty classic. Loving the colours. Quite amazed at how fast she finished for you.

 

[TexasTea]

Thanks Kalbhairav.

I'm not sure of the exact flowering length because I like a more intuitive approach (or maybe I'm very lazy, haha) and I tend to just keep them going until they are done. Plus after running mostly sativas for the past two years, anything indica seems crazy fast. But most of my current plants were put into flower around the same time and the NJ x KC is in the lead.

 

[hush]

I've decided to grow out this classic of a strain.

 

[StrongTree]

Hi Hush ... i too was thinking about NepJam the same way recently..
i have ran oenj and zambliss but not yet original...mine was from a recent free pack.. hope you find the creamy terped fastflower purp Dubi has spoken of..

 

[dubi]

Lovely outcome musigny23 and very early flowering!
Looks very very close to the Nepal Jam F6 purple mother i've been using for NJ breeding and hybrids in latest years

Did you grow the fem version, right ?
Thanks for all your great contrutions to this room.

Here's a shot of one of two Nepaljams I have going. This is showing more purple in the stems and leaves, not much in the flowers. A few weeks ago as flowering began most of the big sun leaves yellowed and dropped off. This is my first try of this strain so it was in a smartpot rather than in the ground so the size is modest.

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[dubi]

Hi TexasTea,

Really happy to see that you have had the chance to experience Nepal Jam x Kali China. Lovely outcome, with classic traits from both strains, and performing as expected: very very fast flowering and easy to grow. Hope the terpenes and effects are of your taste. Please, let us know your opinion about her when you feel it is the right moment.

The casual variegation comes from Kali China F4 parental plant, although it usually doesn't appear often in KC hybrids.

7-8 week finishers usually produce low/moderate yields, it's much easier to produce good yielding hybrids with genetics that take at least 9 weeks of flowering or longer.

Your feedback on Nepal Jam x Kali China is much appreciated, hopefully we will see more grows of this hybrid now that the strain has been included permanently in our catalogue and that a dedicated thread has been created in this room for the newer version of the strain:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=369379

Thanks man. I grew this one last spring and it was very similar in aromas and effects to Zamaldelica x KC. It was a small plant, very very fast finishing, 7 weeks probably, and I didn't get a lot off it for yield. But I was intrigued enough to try another one. Like I said, this one looks a lot different and more colorful, purple vs green. Trichs are currently clouding up.

 

[dubi]

Thanks also to hush and StrongTree
Glad to see you both starting the year with Nepal Jam in your gardens!

 

[dubi]

Current Nepal Jam breeding status

Current Nepal Jam breeding status

As you may know, we have been advancing on and off on Nepal Jam selections, breeding and hybrids since 2014. I'm checking back my breeding notes of the process to share them here with all of you.

In 2014 we found the purple, resinous and very early flowering F6 Nepal Jam mother of remarkable and refined sweet and cremy terpenes and clear, happy, warm, kind and anxiolytic effect that was used as a base for upcoming breeding of the strain. A F7 regular generation was produced that year using that F6 female, some of her F6 sisters, pollinated by a couple of very nice high yielding and vigorous F6 males.

A F7 feminized generation was produced in 2015 by reversing purple Nepal Jam F6 mother previously commented, to pollinate her other best F6 sisters.

We evaluated the purple F6 Nepal Jam parental plant for a couple of years more, and in 2017 we started to make new selections from F6 Nepal Jam regular offspring (F7), then another feminized reproduction was done that year between F6xF6 females (=F7), and F6xF7 as well (backcrossed feminized lines to F6 Nepal Jam mother). In that feminized reproduction i did the latest Nepal Jam feminized hybrids too (Honduras Breeze, Zamal Biss, Red Sapphire) released in 2019.

In 2018 we did a much larger regular selection from F6 Nepal Jam offspring (F7), and found in the F7 offspring of that mother a few F7 females that were better than the F6 mother they came from, until the point i decided to cull off the F6 Nepal Jam mother and replace her with the best new F7 females, which were selected for being the best expressions of the best different expressions found in the strain: firstly, a F7 female very similar in terpenes and warm anxyioltic effects compared to the previous F6 mother, but better yielding and more vigorous. Secondly, a F7 female of great uplifting, expansive, energetic and mood enhancing qualities without ceiling or burnout (similar to best jamaican or Tikal's effects), and finally a couple of other F7 females, one selected for having the strongest hybrid effect (not so well focused like the 2 previously commented, but stronger, and with denser flowers and better resins), and another one that had a novel organic profile rarely found in previous Nepal Jam generations. A new Nepal Jam regular reproduction was done in the second half of 2018, using 4-6 very nice vigorous and high yielding F7 males and many dozens of F7 females, producing mainly F7xF7 = F8, but also a few F6xF7 lines.

Maybe Nepal Jam line doesn't have nowadays the vigor and yield that line had around F1-F3 breeding stage, but i find the line now to be more consistent and better quality for terpenes, resins and effects than ever. The new 4 F7 selected females will be eventually used in upcoming Nepal Jam breeding and hybrid production, in fact the newer Nepal Jam x Kali China version was already produced by pollinating this new 4 F7 Nepal Jam females with Kali China F4 (reversed).

Not sure whether the explanation help or not to understand better how the line reached to this point, but that's how it is.

 

[hush]

What other breeders are so open about their specific breeding actions?! This is why we love you, dub.

 

[Fronk]

Here’s my little tank.
Lookslike it’s getting ready to produce solid tops.

 

[Psy_explorer]

I ve had the purple version Dubi talked about. In a mediterranean weather , the plant showed at early stages sings of purple, weeks laters the whole plant turned purple, some bronze leaves aswell. Incredibly beautifull plant. The terpene profile was great aswell, very original.